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AndyElusive posted:I can't imagine watching this show dubbed, especially the last couple of episodes. The amount of emotions being conveyed by the actors would, I imagine, just sound really fake and off putting regardless of the language. Yeah dubbing makes stuff sound silly sometimes, subs > dubs always. I just cant let myself have fun unless I can have an excuse to learn lol E: ¡francotirador arriba!
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I dunno I watched half of 3% dubbed and it seemed decent
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That ending was lame, tasted like pure nihilism. I suppose the creators had nothing to say.
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Oct 18, 2021 08:14
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I think it was less nihilism, more To Be Continued. I think the sequel hooks really weaken things
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Oct 18, 2021 08:22
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The show reminds me of different horror films: - The VIPs are like the rich torturers in the Hostel movies. - There are a million movies about people playing to the death: Cube, Saw, Battle Royale, Hunger Games etc. It's a whole genre at this point. Squid Game did propose interesting and unique scenarios. - The old guy's discourse at the end is similar to Jigsaw's (both old dudes knocking on heaven's door), although less compelling. "Those who don't appreciate life don't deserve it" is barbaric but it's somewhat meaningful nonetheless. "I'm a rich fuckhead and wanted to have some fun" isn't. But hey horror series have been sustained on weaker foundations, I can't wait for the next 11 seasons America Inc. fucked around with this message at 08:55 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Oct 18, 2021 08:37
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Incite mill was pretty cool
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no hay camino posted:I find it interesting that on the Spanish dub of the show, The VIPs are still speaking in English and subtitles are shown instead. It reinforces the idea of these people being foreigners. It's actually notable that there are no Korean-speaking VIPs, it's all lovely white American dudes. It also happens to be a commentary on the viewership of the show, intentionally or unintentionally. One is explicitly chinese and one is explicitly european.
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punk rebel ecks posted:It's insane how huge this show is. It's essentially the Final Fantasy VII of Korean shows. i think suitcase guy is my olive garden italian lady friend's sephiroth
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Oct 18, 2021 13:10
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Finished this show this weekend. What a wild ride, I loved it. The games were all good and fun the cast was great. I felt only a few aspects of the show didn’t really work for me (the cop sub-plot that ends with the brother twist and the 5th game but I think it may have been a translation/sub issue. Speaking of, on the 5th game: Is it a subtitle thing when they’re describing the glass / rules? It says one is plexiglass or whatever and can hold up to two people. The other is regular glass and can hold one person. But obviously it’s more like one glass is safe and can hold people and one instantly breaks. When they reveal the stage and explained the rules I thought the order itself was a twist. If the regular glass could endure one person then the first two people brave enough to get #1 and #2 would essentially get a free pass as the normal glass would support their initial attempt. It’s everyone else that would be screwed as the normal glass would now be weakened and that’s when the dying starts. It also would have tied back to our main character almost picking #1 and giving it away. I means, it works out just fine as shown for him, but it could have been a neat twist to it.
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I really enjoy the cop story purely because I'm a sucker for behind-the-scenes type content when a show is wrapped in a lot mystery.
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From a few pages back when people were talking about If the old man was ever in any danger Someone said the only time he was in real danger was during the night fight. I don't think anyone pointed this out, but he went missing during the fight and only showed up at the end when he called for it to stop. With hindsight, it seems likely he was spirited away after the lights went off and re-entered through some hidden passage at the end. That also explains how he managed to climb the tower. Besides that, the tug of war seems to be the most contentious. wasn't this being televised to the VIPs? in which case the guards couldn't have covered for him by shooting the remaining survivors without outing him to the VIPs. A question I have is that the people running the game seemed very lucky in the numbers, that only 2 and precisely 2 made it to the last game. It seemed important for the VIPs that the games go ahead as scheduled and there is only one winner. I can see how the numbers could be controlled up to game 7. Red Light Green Light - had a big enough sample size that they could be sure ~200 would make it through Honeycomb - as above Night Fight - Call it to stop once roughly x many had been killed Tug of War - cuts it by 50% Marbles - cuts it by another 50% But from there it's conceivable everyone dies on the bridge crossing or more than 2 make it to the final.
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Oct 18, 2021 13:54
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More than two people did make it to the finale, that's why they gave them knives and left them alone until there were two. The way the fifth game it structured makes it VERY likely that at least a couple of people are going to make it through, if not a few people. Then they can just let them do their own thing to take it down to two overnight! If the players don't seem like they'd go for it by themselves I'm sure they have ways to encourage them, like the way they provoked the night time fight.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Finished this show this weekend. What a wild ride, I loved it. The games were all good and fun the cast was great. I felt only a few aspects of the show didn’t really work for me (the cop sub-plot that ends with the brother twist and the 5th game but I think it may have been a translation/sub issue. They specifically say "The normal glass will shatter with just one person".
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The Dave posted:I really enjoy the cop story purely because I'm a sucker for behind-the-scenes type content when a show is wrapped in a lot mystery. Honestly for me that was the best part of the show because it asked questions that needed answers. Who are the guards? Where did they cone from? They're literal murderers, rapists and necrophiles. They also are as strictly regimented as the participants. That this wasn't addressed was where the show lost me as established we've had endless Royale types over the decades and as metaphors. That inherent corruption of just accepting "it is because it is" is where you end up with a line between horror and the excesses of torture porn. gently caress i think The Collector is still one of the worst films ever made but I digress... Losing that storyline reminded me of The Purge going the opposite - The Purge started as slasher and then became progressively better by asking "why" and a critique of capitalism and oppression. This ended up going the other with its criticism of capitalism front and centre but with no idea how to conclude and spreading its mythos thin. With the one year later its just "these things will continue". Like Battle Royale 2: Requiem.
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Oct 18, 2021 14:47
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If you assume they're clearly setting things up for a second season, the cop story also serves as a background for the Frontman, who's probably ending up as the primary antagonist with Oh Il-nam gone.
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Oct 18, 2021 15:00
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As for dropped stories literally nothing came of the loose screw into the air ducts, and in fact they never went back there again... it felt like that would be the overlap between the participants and the cop and also to allow for information brokering to ferment possible rebellion but it just disappeared
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Lid posted:As for dropped stories what's to go back for? it was strictly there to show how close they came to being caught by the guard.
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Oct 18, 2021 15:46
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If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there.
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Lid posted:If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. let's just pretend it fell out and rolled away then, it has the same effect on the story
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Lid posted:If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there. Lol This is a joke, right
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Oct 18, 2021 15:55
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People got to use the bathroom again. I assume someone did something. The fact that there aren't cameras aimed into all the stalls seems out of character for the voyeurism of the VIPs though.
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Johnny Truant posted:Lol It’s Chekhov’s Gun or something like that.
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Oct 18, 2021 17:00
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YoursTruly posted:People got to use the bathroom again. I assume someone did something. They can gently caress the guards if they want some semi-consensual action and I don't think there were any Japanese VIPs.
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Oct 18, 2021 17:09
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Lid posted:If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there.
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Oct 18, 2021 18:38
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Do arcade games in SK actually include gun shaped lighters as prizes? Gi-hun should have simply set the Ddakji cards on fire and mugged the recruiter dude, imo.
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no hay camino posted:I find it interesting that on the Spanish dub of the show, The VIPs are still speaking in English and subtitles are shown instead. It reinforces the idea of these people being foreigners. It's actually notable that there are no Korean-speaking VIPs, it's all lovely white American dudes. It also happens to be a commentary on the viewership of the show, intentionally or unintentionally.
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YoursTruly posted:Do arcade games in SK actually include gun shaped lighters as prizes? Gi-hun was definitely a low-life gambling addict and down on his luck but he's far from the street thug mugger type who's gonna shake you down for some money with a fake gun.
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Oct 18, 2021 19:29
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The recruiter's whole job is slapping people for a living. I'm not sure Gi-hun could have taken him.
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Regarding the final game if more than 2 people arrive there they probably would have changed the rules or worded them poorly like "the game will continue until one person reaches the squid's head or only one person is able to continue" to encourage people betraying their own teammates
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There's also the part that the players are never told that there can only be one winner. We the audience know thanks to the cop's plot, but I found it super scammy and disingenous that you leave this detail out in your "perfectly fair and equal social experiment game" to the point that I was expecting the twist reveal at the end to be a Saw 5 scenario where by some bullshit everyone could have made it out alive if they had cooperated
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You guys are thinking too hard about it. They just would have kept having games until there was one person left. They didn’t plan on having three people at the end of the glass bridge, but because they did they went to the dinner/knife thing. If five people had made it they probably would have done another 50% make it or not game.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:One is explicitly chinese and one is explicitly european. True, but still no Koreans. I don't know if the creators were trying to say something in that regard. Perhaps how the Korean debt crisis is impoverishing everyday Korean people for the benefit of largely foreign capital. E: Omon Ra posted:I read that it's the top Netflix show in like 90 countries. Are those all filled with lovely white American dudes, or what's your point about the viewership? That's true, the average viewer has little in common with the VIPs. It's interesting though for the show to present us with a hypothetical "viewership" of assholes who are watching for all the wrong reasons. E1: okay yes there is oh il nam. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Robobot posted:You guys are thinking too hard about it. They just would have kept having games until there was one person left. They didn’t plan on having three people at the end of the glass bridge, but because they did they went to the dinner/knife thing. If five people had made it they probably would have done another 50% make it or not game.
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no hay camino posted:True, but still no Koreans. I don't know if the creators were trying to say something in that regard, the evils of foreign capital or something. There was a Korean VIP. Oh Il Nam.
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Oct 18, 2021 21:23
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Of course the American is fat and thinks 69 jokes are the height of humor. Nice.
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Oct 18, 2021 21:27
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It was disappointing that there wasn't a full team vs team squid game.
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Lid posted:As for dropped stories I don't think the shot of the screw was meant to highlight it being loose, only that she was careful enough to re-fasten it at all.
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 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-58915851
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Re: Han Mi-nyeo I thought for sure she would survive the fall through the glass since she was holding onto Deok-su. I figured she would somehow use his body to cushion the fall!
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I also find it interesting that the main character wasn't even the person that I wanted to win, I wanted Ali or Sae-byeok to win. I guess it demonstrates the pointless cruelty of the game even more in that the most deserving didn't win.
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