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https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1450057020682420226?t=msGMSBgEzOF1zE4-NYaDJA&s=19 Unless they uncover something actually illegal this is just more 'Boris must surely resign' poo poo, and even if they do uncover something he can always just sack a patsy over it.
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Oct 18, 2021 15:02
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Noxville posted:Surely the best measure of amount of chips would be to bring digital scales and weigh them Alec mentions his partner won’t let him take scales. So only one half of the relationship is truly batshit. Imagine having to sit there in a spoons while your partner measures, counts (and would weigh if he could) the chips. Most embarrassing thing to happen in a spoons? Unlikely, but still high.
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Oct 18, 2021 15:18
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Red Oktober posted:Alec mentions his partner won’t let him take scales. I’ve measured food in restaurants before (to carb count to work out insulin dosage for a diabetic).
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Oct 18, 2021 15:19
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keep punching joe posted:Funnily enough I was looking at Umberto Eco's 14 eternal features of fascism this morning and think the UK as it is currently can probably tick off around 13. Is there a prize when we get them all? Do you remember that post that pops up in this thread every so often about how UK political parties have to respect the Brexit vote and implement it, or else the people will lose all faith in the democratic process and the rule of law and just turn to Fascist parties to take over to bring about Brexit? Looking at that post and thinking "glad we didn't go down that route" is the prize.
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Oct 18, 2021 15:27
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Comrade Fakename posted:The reason it's unworkable really isn't technical. Same with the porn block, technically it was impossible, there would be shitloads of ways around the block, and loads of legitimate sites would get blocked too. But the reason it was unworkable was that the Tories also look at porn. And the day everyone goes to load up Pornhub and finds that they have to go call up a real person on the phone to tell them they want to look at titties is they day the Tories lose millions of votes. I'm not sure if you've looked recently but all of the large ISPs have a default-on porn block. It is as you say easy to bypass (although not as easy as you might think at some providers) but it's there and has been for almost half a decade now. People just seem to forget that they unticked that box when they first set up their account. Similarly a Great Firewall, allowing *only* traffic to permitted sites and protocols (i.e. also blocking most VPNs and other private networks) is now something that could be done with a couple of lines of code at almost all of the large providers (and imposed upon the smaller ones by the larger ones). If it were done "voluntarily" in the same way as the porn filter it would probably attract even less attention; the only difference is that right now it would require primary legislation to impose it without an option to remove it as it would both (probably) remove the mere conduit defence for liability for stuff that gets through and also be challengeable under the Human Rights Act (as currently the non-optional blocks are all against illegal activity). With the Tories also making a big noise about removing the HRA it's not impossible they might end up using this as part of their assault.
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Oct 18, 2021 15:39
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Lungboy posted:It's been released that it was purely at random, that he had been plotting to kill a Labour or Tory MP for some time and Amess just happened to be the unlucky one. In his shoes I'd be saying I pulled a name out of the hat too. Because I can't think of a faster way to get every evil thing the Tories want to do pushed through Parliament than to say it was because I didn't want them to do those things.
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Oct 18, 2021 15:42
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therattle posted:I’ve measured food in restaurants before (to carb count to work out insulin dosage for a diabetic). I've never gone quite that far and usually just eyeball it, but dear lord I would love it if restaurants started to provide approximate carb contents for their food in the same way they do allergen info
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Oct 18, 2021 15:42
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lol that oval office didn't die in vain https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1450109390925832192?t=yjAGqXzS45oZX7w4pa8qKg&s=19
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Oct 18, 2021 15:45
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Bobby Deluxe posted:https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1450057020682420226?t=msGMSBgEzOF1zE4-NYaDJA&s=19 It's always good to have more evidence of naked corruption in the public domain though.
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The original pic without the face censored is 100x funnier because he has the biggest poo poo eating grin. https://twitter.com/mikemiIIar/status/1449802220988420101?t=eGOTtszXiPb_E4Sudm2r-A
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it's the mushroom man- you leave some mushies out at night, and in 2 weeks he'll send a tuppence through the letterbox
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The thing that people should be worrying about is that unlike the last time this came up the state of the art in carrier-grade filtering has progressed considerably while consolidation of networks means a Great Firewall is actually more technically feasible now than probably at any point since consumer ISPs first started up. How anonymous is posting online really anyway? Like I personally can't easily discover that @WeedlordBonerGoku_42069 is actually Kevin Piss of Upton-upon-Severn, but if the account is suspected of criminal activity presumably a court can compel Twitter to reveal their email and IP address, and do the same to their email provider, their we-do-actually-keep-records-sorry VPN, their ISP and so on. On SA it's even easier because if you paid for your account with a credit card then your real name is most likely on file somewhere. You can of course take measures to make following a trail like that harder, but I can't imagine many people actually go to any special trouble just to call blue ticks pricks online. e: That's all assuming you haven't posted a bunch of personally identifying information yourself. And the long string of people who get doxxed as soon as they come to any widespread online attention suggests that most people do. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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big scary monsters posted:How anonymous is posting online really anyway? Like I personally can't easily discover that @WeedlordBonerGoku_42069 is actually Kevin Piss of Upton-upon-Severn, but if the account is suspected of criminal activity presumably a court can compel Twitter to reveal their email and IP address, and do the same to their email provider, their we-do-actually-keep-records-sorry VPN, their ISP and so on. On SA it's even easier because if you paid for your account with a credit card then your real name is most likely on file somewhere. You can of course take measures to make following a trail like that harder, but I can't imagine many people actually go to any special trouble just to call blue ticks pricks online. That sounds like you'd actually have to do police work though. Lot of effort.
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Also most people can't be bothered to go to the lengths that actually obfuscate those things, because most people aren't really doing anything that bad. Similar to how the biggest hit to  sites wasn't the court orders, those were bypassed within minutes, they were Netflix offering a more convenient service. And when everyone else started getting in on that so that your shows were across 15 platforms people went back.I'd guess the same works here, people aren't using OPSEC to post on Twitter because the convenience vs. risk doesn't weigh in. If you start making it so that it does, then people's habits may change. SixFigureSandwich posted:more evidence of naked corruption in the public domain
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It's not really about serious crimes, what the government want is that when CorbynFan79 tweets at the Prime Minister asking why he's sold the tube to his former nanny, Laura Kuenssberg can tweet out his address for journalistic interest.
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Oct 18, 2021 16:34
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We should absolutely go back to enforced anonymity on the internet, anyone using their real name should be prosecuted. My biggest regret in online life is that I was really attached to some of those old usernames I had to ditch when I got older and didn't want to be associated with some real cringe. But I'd much rather have that regret than worry someday someone's gonna dredge up some libertarian nonsense from fifteen years ago and deliver me an epic "this you?" The most boring thing about our future dystopia might be that we won't even get the cool cyberpunk names.
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big scary monsters posted:How anonymous is posting online really anyway? Like I personally can't easily discover that @WeedlordBonerGoku_42069 is actually Kevin Piss of Upton-upon-Severn, but if the account is suspected of criminal activity presumably a court can compel Twitter to reveal their email and IP address, and do the same to their email provider, their we-do-actually-keep-records-sorry VPN, their ISP and so on. On SA it's even easier because if you paid for your account with a credit card then your real name is most likely on file somewhere. You can of course take measures to make following a trail like that harder, but I can't imagine many people actually go to any special trouble just to call blue ticks pricks online. You're quite right, it's not anonymous at all to the providers, although there are ways and means around that even with paid-for accounts, but that's not the point of any of this. As others have pointed out most of the very worst bile comes from accounts on Facebook with a real name and a complete record of their entire employment and relationship history and pictures of everywhere they've been in the last 10 years. However the people posting rare Brendans are all pseudonymous and *those* are the people that get right up the noses of both blue-ticks and the kind of person who posts about how they want to see machineguns posted on the cliffs of Dover, and they desperately want to be able to doxx them, not actually do anything legal (not least because - for right now at least - posting "Seff Jamuels" at a QC isn't a criminal offence but they desperately want it to stop). This is why I called it "Karen's Law" - they all consider themselves the protagonist of reality and anyone not showing due deference to their undoubted genius and or Just Common Sense Innit need to live in fear of them. As far as they're concerned, all not-them posters are there purely for their entertainment and amusement, and god forbid they break that bubble by arguing back. They will never for one moment even *consider* the massive risk to life and limb for people that having this sort of info available will cause because *they don't consider them to be people*. I'm not even talking about shitposting here, I've seen disputes on Usenet about flight numbers at Scottish airports (both originally from accounts with real names and employer email accounts) spiral into death threats. Ask any woman who just posts pictures of their cats the kind of poo poo that ends up in their DMs (again often from real-name accounts), let alone anyone from the far end of the LGBTQ+ community who dares ask that maybe people could be like 10% less lovely to them.
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keep punching joe posted:The original pic without the face censored is 100x funnier because he has the biggest poo poo eating grin. So that's why he needed the four candles! Chubby Henparty fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Reveilled posted:We should absolutely go back to enforced anonymity on the internet, anyone using their real name should be prosecuted. My biggest regret in online life is that I was really attached to some of those old usernames I had to ditch when I got older and didn't want to be associated with some real cringe. But I'd much rather have that regret than worry someday someone's gonna dredge up some libertarian nonsense from fifteen years ago and deliver me an epic "this you?" I can't remember who said it or where, but the person who said "The internet belonged to WeedlordGoku420 before it belonged to John Smith" got it dead right.
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SixFigureSandwich posted:Colin Powell is dead, that's one fewer war criminal. How is Kissinger outliving all these other ghouls??
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Guavanaut posted:Also most people can't be bothered to go to the lengths that actually obfuscate those things, because most people aren't really doing anything that bad. A guy I used to know in uni downloaded a whole pile of while staying at his girlfriend's house, and later after they broke up her dad ended up getting a fine for thousands of pounds through the door for piracy he'd been completely unaware of. Afaik the guy ended up bailing on the lot too and left him to foot the bill, so I guess those guys probably never got back together.Reveilled posted:We should absolutely go back to enforced anonymity on the internet, anyone using their real name should be prosecuted. My biggest regret in online life is that I was really attached to some of those old usernames I had to ditch when I got older and didn't want to be associated with some real cringe. But I'd much rather have that regret than worry someday someone's gonna dredge up some libertarian nonsense from fifteen years ago and deliver me an epic "this you?" From what I've heard there are still a good number of people in their 20s/30s still using the same personal email address they made as teenagers, apparently not considering it an issue that they're submitting formal CVs with 'hotgothprincess666@yahoo.com'' in their contact details lol ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Miftan posted:How is Kissinger outliving all these other ghouls?? Even Satan doesn't want him.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Even Satan doesn't want him. Ah, he's hellmaxxing.
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Miftan posted:How is Kissinger outliving all these other ghouls?? They die that he might live.
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This crossed my twit-feed today: https://twitter.com/rpaton11/status/1449886317370822659?s=20 (Don't feel you have to read the entire thread - it's a fairly standard-issue eulogy from David Amess' speechwriter about how nice he was, how good a constituency MP he was, how much he loved animals etc.) The bit that lept out at me was: "but the most important thing he taught me was to start with kindness and the only thing that matters is how many people you help..." I just don't know how people can write this stuff without (apparently) a second's reflection or thought given the chap's voting record where he demonstrably passed up plenty of opportunities to help lots of people. Maybe he was a kind, funny, warm and thoughtful man in person. Maybe was a great and attentive constituency MP and a valuable pillar of Southend civic life. Maybe he did love animals. Maybe he did have a great sense of humour. But surely it all comes down to that quote about "politics being how you treat people you don't know"? Saying 'he was a great constituency MP' when also faced with his parliamentry voting record must at least hint that he only wanted to help people in Southend (and, knowing what I do of Southend and the sort of people who are generally willing and able to go to and bother a Conservative MP in that area, really only help people of certain sorts in Southend). So he was basically a textbook modern Conservative politician. There isn't even some sort of centrist "well he really wanted to help people, he just had different ideas about how to do it!  " bollocks. You don't cultivate a voting record so consistently against any sort of progress or help to the most vulnerable people that way, not even if you are the sort of conservative who genuinely thinks your politics can benefit ordinary people. I dunno really why I'm typing this. I think I'm just venting because everyone I interact with day-to-day is in full-on  mode and when I read stuff like that twitter thread I have to come here to stave off the feeling that I'm being gaslit by the rest of the entire country (a feeling that I am increasingly getting these days!).
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Skeletome posted:it's the mushroom man- you leave some mushies out at night, and in 2 weeks he'll send a tuppence through the letterbox is that the guy who lives on drury lane?
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Another question is, how good will it be at facial recognition of faces of kids of colour given that the failure rate on people of colour of these things is pretty high. Well with fingerprint readers, there's still someone sat on the till. When it doesn't recognise their fingerprint (happened to me many times) the student just says their name and the staff member looks them up. Shows the picture on the till and they confirm it's them.
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I've said it before but again, for them the cruelty is a virtue. They believe that inflicting pain on the right sort of people is helping them. Of course they don't phrase it like that and they wouldn't call it cruelty, they wouldn't even acknowledge that it could be cruel, but still manifestly what they do is cruelty and they believe it is a good thing. And if you point this out they get defensive and abhor the idea that it could be thought of as cruelty and you're just too soft lefty snowflake that's not how the real world works etc. I suppose it is a form of gaslighting in the sense that many people are so blindly arrogant that they just completely ignore or dismiss any notion that people could disagree with how they behave, my family is full of that sort, I suppose it depends on whether you believe gaslighting has to be an intentional lie told to break people's sense of certainty about their own thoughts, or whether it can be born simply of a blind faith in one's own understanding of one's actions, to the point that if someone thinks you are an rear end in a top hat they must be wrong, it must have happened differently.
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BalloonFish posted:This crossed my twit-feed today: People genuinely can be both helpful and charming IRL and blithely vote for monstrous poo poo. An acquaintance of mine mentioned that Amess had been instrumental in helping a group of Afghan refugees settle in Southend, even going so far as arranging for Farsi bus timetables to be printed up. I've mentioned before that Peter Bottomley has been *amazingly* helpful to people getting hosed over by housing associations. Steven Norris was one of the staunchest allies of gay and lesbian people in the Commons in the 80s and 90s. All three are also straight party-line voting Tories and so have definitely voted for some very, very nasty things. The point is that (with the possible exception of a few monsters) none of them wake up in the morning and thing "Hmm... how can I be evil today?". When they voted to remove the £20 from UC, to take the last example, they would mostly have genuinely believed they were doing the right thing not only for the country *but for the recipients of UC* - some bullshit about "encouraging them back to work", with a side order of "if the country goes bankrupt we're all hosed". Now obviously these are at best economically illiterate but they're not (again, with a few exceptions) doing it because they *enjoy* loving people over. In fact I'd say one of the biggest weaknesses on the Left (it happens all across the spectrum of course but it's something the Left should be more able to recognise and avoid, IMO) is this assumption that the other side are moustache-twirling panto villains who do what they do because they are actual biblical evil personified, rather than at best people with an extremely misaligned moral compass (and at worst chancers and spivs looking for a quick buck, but that's a different class of bastards all together). Blair, Thatcher, even Kissinger never did what they did because they correctly identified what was right and wrong and chose to do the wrong thing for the lols, they did what they thought was right, and considered the downsides to be acceptable. This is of course also monstrous and evil but it's a completely different kind of monstrous and evil. and failing to recognise that is a massive blind spot in how you fight it.
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