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Hector Delgado posted:I avoided Disco Elysium mainly due to the fact I couldn't stand how the main character looked. Not a fan of drunks. Most drunks can't stand drunks either. You know, because they drank so much poison they're incapable of the most basic actions.
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Oct 18, 2021 11:48
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Higher highs and lower lows than any other game Haha loving classic. I remember when MOBA games were getting big. I had a friend who insisted I play Heroes of Newerth with her. So I signed up, joined a game with her. She stopped playing with me after that one match. They had an item in the game that was like a woodcutter's axe. It cut down the trees in the game, simple. At the end of the match she asked where the hell I was. She went to our base and saw I spent the thirty odd minute match clearing all the trees at the corner of it. So yeah, I think I won MOBAs.
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Oct 18, 2021 11:55
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Vic posted:DOTA would be perfectly playable on a gamepad what are you talking about. It's on a loving 2d plane man. Also, no one will ever teach you how you're supposed to play and everyone expects you to already know.
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Oct 18, 2021 12:10
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I’m not playing a game that 1. Can’t be paused 2. Needs me to commit to a 20-minute match or get penalised 3. Makes me play with and against MOBA players Also the character designs for women in these games are just as bad as Korean MMOs
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Oct 18, 2021 12:39
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Cat’s out in the rain waiting to be let in and you’re like gotta feed all these creeps to the jungle or some poo poo idk
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Oct 18, 2021 12:44
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This is my last Disco Elysium post. I somehow managed to beat the game without unlocking a single achievement.
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Oct 18, 2021 12:53
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Barudak posted:This is my last Disco Elysium post. I somehow managed to beat the game without unlocking a single achievement. There should be an achievement for that.
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Oct 18, 2021 13:13
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People like to dunk on fary cry for not letting them kill Trumpists but it's totally understandable why Ubisoft decided not to let you do that also far cry 6 is a great game
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Oct 18, 2021 13:29
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Mr Interweb posted:would it be a controversial statement to say that gaming is probably the best it's ever been? gaming will never get worse because the backlog of unplayed games increases every day. its doesn't matter if there are 99 terrible games released every day when one good game is also released. we have reached the point where no human could ever hope to play every good game
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Oct 18, 2021 13:39
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Gaming is real good now because loading is way shorter. We have exited the tyranny of the disc.
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Barudak posted:Gaming is real good now because loading is way shorter. We have exited the tyranny of the disc. And entered the tyranny of always-online single player games, where instead you get to wait 3-4 seconds every time you click a menu item. Seriously, what the gently caress.
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Oct 18, 2021 13:56
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Barudak posted:This is my last Disco Elysium post. I somehow managed to beat the game without unlocking a single achievement. Seriously send that save to the devs, they need to honor you for that.
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I liked FFXIV but I can't commit the sheer amount of time required to play it. WoW was always good (after like...wrath, I guess) at giving you short, achievable goals and largely letting you do whatever after you hit max level. They hosed this in later expansions with the sheer volume of dailies but even then you could still get buy doing a bare minimum I played FFXIV for like 70 hours and I just reached the first expansion. That is not a game that I can actually play, it just doesn't work
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Oct 18, 2021 13:57
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Personally, City of Heroes still ruined all other MMOs for me  City of Heroes is the only good MMO, and I will not be convinced otherwise.
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Oct 18, 2021 15:30
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abigserve posted:Imo multiplayer gaming is actually in one of the worst places I can remember the worst thing about current multiplayer gaming is that every game wants to be the one that you play exclusively and as a result they're all full of poo poo annoying leveling up and stats and buying passes
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Oct 18, 2021 15:58
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I started playing FF14 with some friends. It's my first MMO and it is really boring. It's just an incredibly dry, fetch quest laden RPG. It has mountains of text and character names for even the simplest task, insuring I will never be able to follow any plot twists, if indeed there are any. Currently it just looks like a generic RPG story. But that's kind of what I expected of MMORPGS. What I didn't expect was that the MM part doesn't really play a role. I thought I'd be roaming the world with my buddies and interacting with people in some way, but there's no reason to be in a group except for specially marked dungeons that pop up now and then. The "massive" part of the multiplayer really has no impact, outside of towns where I can see everyone's sexy cat girls in the town square. Other players basically just serve as window dressing. Dark Souls honestly feels like it has more of a massively multiplayer atmosphere. With all the blood stains, messages and various phantoms it has both players-as-window dressing and way more player interaction. And it doesn't require a monthly subscription. I was really hoping companies would be using their massive MMO server infrastructure and subscription fees to do something interesting.
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If a game isn't on xbox game pass, I'm not gonna play it.
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Nice Van My Man posted:I started playing FF14 with some friends. It's my first MMO and it is really boring. It's just an incredibly dry, fetch quest laden RPG. It has mountains of text and character names for even the simplest task, insuring I will never be able to follow any plot twists, if indeed there are any. Currently it just looks like a generic RPG story. "MMOs" are not massive open worlds for people to interact. thats what people thought in the 90s. the genre is now about wasting as much time as humanly possible. if you want a real MMO experience you need to start playing Survival Games. Ark, DayZ, Minecraft, Conan, Empyrion, etc.
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Oct 18, 2021 16:11
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The best MMO is dark souls after you hacked in an infinite amount of red soapstones and have a funny gimmick costume
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The best mmo is everquest
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snowshovelboy posted:If a game isn't on xbox game pass, I'm not gonna play it. Same, if a film isnt on Netflix I refuse to watch it lmao
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:the worst thing about current multiplayer gaming is that every game wants to be the one that you play exclusively and as a result they're all full of poo poo annoying leveling up and stats and buying passes I like this because I'm more likely to play one or two games for a long time than jump around much, saying that I've never looked at the rocket league pass
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MMO's, as they used to be universally understood, are a dead concept I think now. There's no way you can re-create the experience of logging into Everquest, Ultima Online, WoW or any of the other wild early- and mid-00's MMO's. Gamers today won't accept an experience of logging in with nary a tutorial, basic mobs that require a group to fight, and no match-making ability. That's where the MMO part came in - you HAD to connect with other people in the game to accomplish poo poo, or you weren't doing anything interesting. Things nowadays are much more streamlined. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing, but I do think something is lost by not forcing players to interact in order to group up and accomplish things rather than just letting them click a queue button and getting loaded in with 4 other randos for some rando dungeon.
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Lucas Archer posted:MMO's, as they used to be universally understood, are a dead concept I think now. There's no way you can re-create the experience of logging into Everquest, Ultima Online, WoW or any of the other wild early- and mid-00's MMO's. Gamers today won't accept an experience of logging in with nary a tutorial, basic mobs that require a group to fight, and no match-making ability. That's where the MMO part came in - you HAD to connect with other people in the game to accomplish poo poo, or you weren't doing anything interesting. The evolution of MMOs make me wonder if the antisocial movement became the big focus group for developers. Like yeah, there were lots of people who joined guilds and had a friend to play with in WoW, but how many more players solo-leveled by themselves for Blizzard to decide to create an entire matchmaking system that game them a chance to experience dungeons/raids?
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Tetrabor posted:The evolution of MMOs make me wonder if the antisocial movement became the big focus group for developers. Several orders of magnitude more. WoW has been rewarded in the millions for making the process more casual-friendly at every step of the way. Like the whole old order of MMOs, probably including WoW itself eventually, died on the altar of more hardcore raiding guild content of making super ultra raid bosses that the big nolifer guilds beat a dozen times within hours of release and then go back to the forums and complain about lacking content, while the last expansion's millions of dollars of dev-hours worth of dungeons and raids sit around empty and obsolete.
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The only good MMO ever to exist is eve online, and that's in spite of having the worst gameplay of any MMO ever
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The only online games i like are where its you and one or a few friends playing co-op. Outward is a real fun game for this. Comp stomps in RTSes or Civ are fun too. Destiny 2 was fun too but only with friends. Whenever I've tried a PVP game everyone playing seems to be a complete psychopath.
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John Murdoch posted:
City of Heroes was not perfect, but it was close. The final form of the "Hey, you want to get together and smash some guys?" style MMO. It could have used some more enemy varieties and late-game content, but it was fun enough to just make another character when you hit the cap and do it again. I had the best worst CoH character: an Ice/FF controller. I reduced enemy damage rate to the point that it was below everyone's regeneration rate, but couldn't do any damage at all...
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Random Stranger posted:City of Heroes was not perfect, but it was close. The final form of the "Hey, you want to get together and smash some guys?" style MMO. It could have used some more enemy varieties and late-game content, but it was fun enough to just make another character when you hit the cap and do it again. I had a Mercenaries/Force Fields Mastermind, considered apparently the worst possible build you could pick for it. Still a Mastermind though, so I could solo everything and stunlock most bosses in knockback with Force Bolt.
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abigserve posted:Imo multiplayer gaming is actually in one of the worst places I can remember also:
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I don't like playing online games, even with friends it does not click with me and I don't like it.
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I think you can get enough of the old school MMO experience in FF14’s eureka/Bozja to appreciate modern game design which is to say old MMOs are best remembered via brief glimpses
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FF14 has the problem that every expansion adds new skills and mechanics to every job, but they try and keep about the same number of hotkeys at endgame so you don't end up with 12 hotbars of stuff after the fourth expansion. So to achieve this they prune and simplify the earlygame skill trees. Meaning every time a new expansion gets released, the leveling experience gets more boring/simplified until you're spending 2 expansions just pressing 3 buttons because all the complicated/engaging mechanics for your job are only unlocked in the latest expansion.
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No not really, their “pruning” is to add traits at a later level that makes your poo poo simpler while also adding new poo poo to try and tamp down on the amount of buttons. Classes like BLM are relatively unchanged 1-50, which sucks because it was boring 1-50 and is still the same (not fun). The earlier levels are mostly untouched outside of the more major sweeping changes and they always end up benefitting lower levels anyways, such that the game is just getting easier for lower level players. Also in SHB they made low-level tanks a lot funner and better by giving them aoe damage abilities when, before, only two of them had reliable aoe damage. DRG needs an early aoe no joke
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I had a Mercenaries/Force Fields Mastermind, considered apparently the worst possible build you could pick for it. Still a Mastermind though, so I could solo everything and stunlock most bosses in knockback with Force Bolt. I had one of those back in the day. I don't think it was the worst possible MM build you could make, but it was probably the single most boring one. Force Bolt was always a critically underrated power tho.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yb5CINrC5E&t=611s
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City of Heroes rules extremely hard, and if anyone hasn't tried it out but generally likes MMOs, there are a bunch of private servers now. The most popular one is Homecoming. I played a ton when Homecoming first came out a couple years ago and had a blast. My main guy was a blue-side Corruptor with dual pistols/dark miasma, maybe not the strongest possible build but I still had a great time with it. Ended up doing a lot of the high-end Incarnate stuff with a goon group, too. Just a purely fun game all around.
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fridge corn posted:The best mmo is everquest It was ugly, poorly designed, and had maybe the most punishingly brutal leveling system ever, but at least interesting things actually happened in it unlike theme park MMOs.
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