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Wouldn't the middle of the venn diagram be a smug Chaos Dwarf? I guess maybe they don't have flying machines.
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I do appreciate that CA seems to have taken it personally about the whole lack of updates complaints by just drowning us with content in the last week or so.
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Oct 18, 2021 15:02
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I'm sure I'll have favorites in practice, but so far I've been excited to play every race they've showcased.
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Scott Forstall posted:https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-3-kislev-campaign-mechanics/ This feels incredibly limp coming after the Tzeench stuff. The whole "battle for political control" mechanic feels more like a system of avoiding punishment than seeking rewards. I do wanna know more about the effect of those Great Winter storms they mentioned, though, and the Frost Court does look like a nice quality-of-life upgrade to get more relevant lord/hero choices. Muscle Tracer fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Oct 18, 2021 15:20
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I like how they are going deeper into simple things like "recruit a new wizard" to make it so that you can train and specialize them how you want, and then they're in your recruitment pool. It'd be nice if more factions got something similar. Maybe only available when you have a tier 5 magic building or something. I'm very excited to play it on release (and every day after), but I sometime try to imagine what this game might look like in 5 years when they've had time to rework and polish all sorts of things a dev would normally never have the time or budget to do. So wild. my next big PC-related purchase will be a 4k ultra wide screen monitor, basically just for WH3/Immortal Empires.
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There are already basically identical things to the harsh winters, in the tomb kings sandstorms and in the rite of Sotek. I’m interested to see other ways for confederation to play out in factions that can’t afford too much infighting.
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Doomykins posted:
Skrolks a very fun campaign I can recommend and the plague changes are great, it's the most skaveny thing you can do to leave some minor settlements and spawning grounds alive in the middle of your territory to use as your permanent plague and food sources and leaving the defenders permanently at 1% unit strength.
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I want to play as heretic kislev. 0 devotion. Just give me constant chaos invasions
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ooh, more news coming tomorrow
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Oct 18, 2021 16:04
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I wanted to ask, is there a reason to play Warhammer 1 if you have Warhammer 2? I am currently playing the first one for the first time but I just saw that 2 is basically 1 with more content and nothing really removed? Also I've only played the historical games upto Shogun 2 but man I can see why people love the Warhammer games so much. The factions feel way more different and unique than the historical games.
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Oct 18, 2021 16:14
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Ulio posted:I wanted to ask, is there a reason to play Warhammer 1 if you have Warhammer 2? I am currently playing the first one for the first time but I just saw that 2 is basically 1 with more content and nothing really removed? Ulio posted:Also I've only played the historical games upto Shogun 2 but man I can see why people love the Warhammer games so much. The factions feel way more different and unique than the historical games.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:There are some really minor reasons (the game handles city colonization differently and a few other things) but the benefits of just playing Mortal Empires (ME) via WH2 far outweigh anything you lose. I had a similar question, thanks for answering. Is there anything else I should know before I start playing WH2? I'm new to Warhammer, but not to Total War games.
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Node posted:I had a similar question, thanks for answering. Is there anything else I should know before I start playing WH2? I'm new to Warhammer, but not to Total War games.
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Oct 18, 2021 16:38
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Battle difficulty is way overhyped by nerd telephone. Hard is way more fun than normal once you have a grasp on battles. Even VH. Legend cheese is optional and I strongly suspect people who hate VH difficulty have spent more time watching legendoftw than playing VH.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Battle difficulty is way overhyped by nerd telephone. Hard is way more fun than normal once you have a grasp on battles.
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Range heavy factions I'll play VH, but bump it down to Hard for melee given the current range heavy slant. Everything is quite winnable on Legendary, it's just a slog of micromanagement as losses matter so much.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Wouldn't the middle of the venn diagram be a smug Chaos Dwarf? I guess maybe they don't have flying machines. The middle of the diagram would be an enormous hat rising from the depths. The chorfs have hat-based anti-aircraft technology.  Edit: Hat. Dramicus fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Oct 18, 2021 17:34
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Scott Forstall posted:https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-warhammer-3-kislev-campaign-mechanics/ *For now.
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Mordja posted:Confirmation that Boris is dead* and I wonder what, "Ogres and worse to the east" means exactly. Chaos Dwarfs, Greenskins, and Kurgan. I swear it read “to the west” earlier this morning. I thought that was a weird way to describe Troll Country. Did they go back and fix a typo or did I hallucinate that?
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Oh, I guess I figured Chorfs were up north, with the rest of Chaos and all that.
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Dr Christmas posted:Chaos Dwarfs, Greenskins, and Kurgan. It was a typo.
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Mordja posted:Oh, I guess I figured Chorfs were up north, with the rest of Chaos and all that. Chorfs are in the Darklands, basically north/northeast of Snickh's starting point in ME, but currently off the ME map.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Battle difficulty is way overhyped by nerd telephone. Hard is way more fun than normal once you have a grasp on battles. Even VH. Legend cheese is optional and I strongly suspect people who hate VH difficulty have spent more time watching legendoftw than playing VH. VH sucks rear end if you want to do anything melee heavy, its needless headache and a lovely way to do things. The mod that just changes the bonuses to ward save is honestly a thousand times better if you need that extra challenge to get enjoyment out of the game. The game is designed for normal/normal, everything over that is because coding good AI is hard and everyone has different ideas of "fun". But, with that said, making higher difficulties specifically penalize metas that are already "weak" compared to the dominate metas is just rear end.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Battle difficulty is way overhyped by nerd telephone. Hard is way more fun than normal once you have a grasp on battles. Even VH. Legend cheese is optional and I strongly suspect people who hate VH difficulty have spent more time watching legendoftw than playing VH. 
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I have played a fair bit of VH and honestly it sucks rear end for real, you don't have to cheese it as bad as LOTW does but it is a bummer. It doesn't change anything about AI strategies but what it does do is warp unit dynamics so badly in a way that rewards unit types that were already the best in the game (SE lords, heroes and monsters as well as missile infantry) and trashes the unit types that already aren't too hot (infantry and heavy cavalry). It's just not fun to me to have the enemy swordsmen be rendered into mulching machines that you have to kill down to 10 or less entities while my depth guard gets space jam dunked by clan rats. Hard is the sweet spot for me
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Most games are less fun at the highest difficulty because it requires you to play optimally which is rarely the funnest way to play. In WH2 that means a lot of cheesy poo poo and a lot lot lot of darkshards.
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I'm assuming that Katarin starts in Kislev with Kostaltyn in Praag, so who gets Erengrad? Also I couldn't quite understand what Kislev actually looks like. They cited the huge cities but also mentioned the many many small villages as if that was somehow different from what we already got. Also, Atamans seem interesting. Province governors a la 3k that you can bring to the battlefield in a pinch? Am I missing something there? Because they have already mentioned that Ice Witches and [something I can't remember] are lords for Kislev, so not sure how the 3rd lord type will work out. And they are keeping some of the Ungol naming system it looks like, even if not the horse archery. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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What interests me is this, "Between these great areas are scores of smaller towns and villages, scratching out a living and funding the war efforts with men, farms, and weapons." that's not how the map currently looks so that means they're changing it heavily and there's not a ton of room to do that. I really hope they shrink some of the more redundant areas to expand some other areas. The worlds edge mountains for example should be a series of goat paths for underway armies and inaccessible to other races with just the karaks exposed to regular travel. You could save a lot of space by getting rid of the redundant passes. I'd love to see the underway map made where any race can enter it through certain points then just having multiple settlements in the center of the mountains only accessible via the underway. You could remove the underway stance in areas it's not supposed to be also because now it's going to be a physical map.
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Ravenfood posted:I'm assuming that Katarin starts in Kislev with Kostaltyn in Praag, so who gets Erengrad? Ravenfood posted:Also I couldn't quite understand what Kislev actually looks like. They cited the huge cities but also mentioned the many many small villages as if that was somehow different from
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I would assume the big cities will just have more slots.
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Ulio posted:I wanted to ask, is there a reason to play Warhammer 1 if you have Warhammer 2? I am currently playing the first one for the first time but I just saw that 2 is basically 1 with more content and nothing really removed? WH is great for that but I like the historical games too, sometimes it's nice to set up a gunline or whatever without having to worry about some dickhead on a dragon bowling them all over the place and munching them, or a firestorm incinerating them, or a bunch of coked up ratmen appearing out the ground or or or
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Ravenfood posted:I'm assuming that Katarin starts in Kislev with Kostaltyn in Praag, so who gets Erengrad? That's kinda how irl Russia works. There are huge cities like Moscow and Saint Petersburg, but also a ton of small cities and agricultural land.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:There are some really minor reasons (the game handles city colonization differently and a few other things) but the benefits of just playing Mortal Empires (ME) via WH2 far outweigh anything you lose. Ok thanks good to know. Alctel posted:WH is great for that but I like the historical games too, sometimes it's nice to set up a gunline or whatever without having to worry about some dickhead on a dragon bowling them all over the place and munching them, or a firestorm incinerating them, or a bunch of coked up ratmen appearing out the ground or or or Ya I still like them. I just did a huge campaign of Empire, I just wish they factions felt bit more unique but also like I said maybe they did that for the later games the most recent historical one I have played is Shogun 2.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:That's kinda how irl Russia works. There are huge cities like Moscow and Saint Petersburg, but also a ton of small cities and agricultural land. Sure but what does that look like mechanically? Is Kislev 3 provinces with lots of regions in each? Is it a ton of small provinces with a t3 max capital with 3 t5 max megacities as their own provinces? They made it sound like more provinces than usual for the space. E: vvvv yeah. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Kislev seems like it's the 'basic' faction for WH3
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Ravenfood posted:Sure but what does that look like mechanically? Is Kislev 3 provinces with lots of regions in each? Is it a ton of small provinces with a t3 max capital with 3 t5 max megacities as their own provinces? They made it sound like more provinces than usual for the space. Maybe they play a bit like Wood Elves, with the large cities having 20 slots or whatever and the rural areas only having one or two. Edit: that might also play into the "Bulwark against Chaos" theme, as you could lose lots of "regional" territory with only minor consequences and so long as you hold your main cities, you can always push them back and regain your losses and quickly repair the single buildings that get razed. Dramicus fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Ravenfood posted:Sure but what does that look like mechanically? Is Kislev 3 provinces with lots of regions in each? Is it a ton of small provinces with a t3 max capital with 3 t5 max megacities as their own provinces? They made it sound like more provinces than usual for the space. I don't know how exactly this will look like. But it seems to imply at the very least that the region will be different from the normal province capital + small settlements regions. Think Athel Loren. Which again brings me to the point I've stated several times: Seeing the campaign map (maps??) is the thing I look forward to the most.
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Ravenfood posted:I'm assuming that Katarin starts in Kislev with Kostaltyn in Praag, so who gets Erengrad? DLC lord to be named, presumably.
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