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DanielCross
Aug 16, 2013

somepartsareme posted:




This same logic applies to his weed preferences

:hmmyes:

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Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


somepartsareme posted:

Unless of course we genuinely get into some time/universe travel stuff where the skeletons from this game including Gaster travel to the world of Undertale, which isn't impossible
Sans in undertale is explicitly from somewhere/when else. Only the details of that are speculation.

kaleedity
Feb 27, 2016



so if you're the skeletal younger brother of a skeleton, does that mean that your former human (were you human before?) was born first, or that you were raised/created first? very important questions that I don't see being asked

Classy Hydra
Oct 30, 2011

You did wrong, Jack,
rest your soul.
After hearing that bizarre theory his name is linked to the font "Aster", I just call him the rear end Man.

Anyway, if anyone prefers structural analysis predictions over trending youtuber Game Theories™, I do think we have a decent enough amount of information we can make some speculation on the shape of Deltarune as a whole.

We know Chapter 3 is probably television or film themed, and will feature Toriel and possibly Undyne. In terms of conspicuously closed off areas, we don't have access to Asgore's backroom, the church, Noelle's house, the vault at the far south of time, and it's possible the town continues to the west, past the police station. In terms of characters who might become more involved in the plot, Catti and Jockington are new characters who have portraits, Asgore and Alphys are returning characters that seem to have relevant issues in the Deltarune universe, Noelle's mom is important but unseen, Noelle's sister is either missing or dead under mysterious circumstances. On top of that, there's also B-plots regarding Alvin's relationship with his deceased father, Pezzapants getting catfished, Bratty and Catty having an eternal non-feud, and... whatever's going on with Onionsan. Sans and Papyrus also exist.

The themes of the Dark Worlds thusfar seem to be based on forms of escapism.

With that in mind, I'd guess the completed game looks something like:


(act 1)
Chapter 1 - Abandoned Classroom - Tabletop Games - Susie
Chapter 2 - Library Computer Lab - The Internet - Noelle, (Berdly)

(act 2)
Chapter 3 - Dreemur Residence - Television - Toriel, Undyne
Chapter 4 - The Church - Festival? - Alvin? Catti or Jockington? Bratty and Catty?
Chapter 5 - Holiday Residence or Asgore's backroom? - Work or Politics? - Noelle, Noelle's Mom, Rudy, Asgore, Dess(?)

(act 3)
Chapter 6 - Bunker - ? - Possibly Alphys, Sans, or Kris themselves?
Chapter 7 - / / / JRPG Final Dungeon Bingo / / / (Ralsei's Dark World?)


I doubt the Bunker is the actual location of the final Dark World only because it's rare not to have a surprise truly-final RPG dungeon. Additionally we're due for some kind of game changing reveal in Chapter 4 (it's the midpoint if you have a 7-part story). The story will probably seem to be complete at the end of Chapter 5, with 6 and 7 being the dramatic reveals of what the real conflict going on behind the scene is.

EDIT: Wait, forgot the festival's a thing.That'll be part of Chapter 4 I guess.

Classy Hydra fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Oct 19, 2021

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
Sans in Deltarune is blatantly the same guy from undertale: he has no sprite changes from undertale unlike every single other character that also appeared there, his store is obviously Grillby's badly defaced to spell "san'S" instead and every single piece of dialogue with him is engineered to make the player expose that they know him from elsewhere.

Edit: Also, call gaster the talky hands man.

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009
If a dark world is made in the graveyard would gerson come back as a darkner

Fortis
Oct 21, 2009

feelin' fine
hands undertale

MetaMeme
Apr 30, 2017

You may boorishly refer to it as "Pickpocketing", but I prefer "Urban Foraging".

Augus posted:

w.d. gaster, aka “the semen demon”

Residual Toast
Nov 19, 2007
The Toast with the Most

FirstAidKite posted:

If a dark world is made in the graveyard would gerson come back as a darkner

oh huh yeah i guess the whole "burying items relevant to the person" might be foreshadowing something along those lines huh.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
sans is also straight edge

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Whitenoise Poster posted:

Chara and Gaster and all the meta poo poo are absolutely the most memorable and popular parts of the game and it isn't even close.

Like, every one who was just here for funny fish lady, oh the lesbians kissed, oh random character is cute, oh funny skeletons and funny robot, moved on to the next flavor of the month years ago. All the people who still obsessed with game are exclusively unwell children and manchildren who are obsessed with the meta poo poo, in order, Chara, Gaster, Sans, Flowy and distant last Frisk. This is true of the last remaining tumblr blogs, reddit posts, 4chan threads, the only exception being twitter that is mostly just japanese artist still drawing porn of the spider girl.

Tumblr especially is a vivid example of this. Before Deltarune two parts stirred in fresh blood it was a solid 2/3 people "kining" Chara, or at minimum had thire face plastered all over the blog. All the big rear end essays are about Chara. And Gaster take a distant but soild second place.(okay a lot of that is Sans crying ABOUT Gaster but still)

Yinlock posted:

The gaster stuff is kinda fun to dig into but it's important to remember to stop before you dig too deep and end up like those youtube weirdos who pore over ancient digital tomes for Game Theorems

PSA: don't do fandom, kids

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Oct 19, 2021

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?
gaster is actually a metaphor for circumcision

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Lunatic Sledge posted:

gaster is actually a metaphor for circumcision

Dr. W.D. "Wounded Dick" Gaster

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?
sans foreskin

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
so thats what bones being trousled sound like

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
New theory, the sans of deltarune is somehow specifically the sans from genocide route, after he escaped.

In deltarune, we mechanically see you get hit points (i.e lv maybe??) when enemies flee from being attacked. He slides off screen before playing the death sound effect. He goes to grillbz. There's a mysterious missing brother.

I know it's a bit of a stretch.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

ikanreed posted:

New theory, the sans of deltarune is somehow specifically the sans from genocide route, after he escaped.

In deltarune, we mechanically see you get hit points (i.e lv maybe??) when enemies flee from being attacked. He slides off screen before playing the death sound effect. He goes to grillbz. There's a mysterious missing brother.

I know it's a bit of a stretch.

im sorry sans died... you killed him....

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

NewMars posted:

Sans in Deltarune is blatantly the same guy from undertale: he has no sprite changes from undertale unlike every single other character that also appeared there, his store is obviously Grillby's badly defaced to spell "san'S" instead and every single piece of dialogue with him is engineered to make the player expose that they know him from elsewhere.

Edit: Also, call gaster the talky hands man.

Would also explain why Sans is caught so flatfooted by Asgore The Most Divorced, being probably even more jarring to him in-universe.

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

Augus posted:

how does a skeleton smoke, he has no lungs

he's not a human skeleton he's a monster that happens to look like one, he can do whatever he wants, he's made of magic dust

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Stairmaster posted:

im sorry sans died... you killed him....

Sans talked poo poo, so Sans got hit :colbert:

Just kidding, I don't have the hand eye coordination needed to do a genocide run. I never killed him, but I have watched other people do it! Many times!

Neuronyx
Dec 8, 2016

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Boney Doc Pro Skater 2.

:five:

Neuronyx fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Oct 19, 2021

Whitenoise Poster
Mar 26, 2010

Gaster will be played by Jack Black in the live action adaptation.

edit: Kris Pratt

Whitenoise Poster fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Oct 19, 2021

Neuronyx
Dec 8, 2016

Papyrus will be played by Henry Cavil.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Sans voiced by Patrick Warburton

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Sans voiced by Patrick Warburton

Oh god, I can hear this one.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Sans voiced by Patrick Warburton

....Okay, but I actually do want this now. This is a good fit I feel.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Yeah that's the obvious choice now that you mention it.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Augus posted:

how does a skeleton smoke, he has no lungs
Same way he drinks ketchup.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
same way he ambulates

Baron La Croix
Nov 2, 2010

rastah farah
sonnah maddah fah
Sans is voiced by Bill Fagerbakke.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHz3GIb26KI

Lunatic Sledge posted:

gaster is actually a metaphor for circumcision

nine-gear crow posted:

Dr. W.D. "Wounded Dick" Gaster

Lunatic Sledge posted:

sans foreskin

Countblanc posted:

so thats what bones being trousled sound like
lmao

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012
I think Gaster is just a depressed grandpa who's having the mother of all existential crises and is playing 4D chess so he can exist again.

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Too many remixes of [Big Shot]
not enough remixes of [Now's Your Chance To Be A]

related,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1OMXNJ9mHM

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Can't wait for the next 3 chapters to have Doom embedded in the code somehow.

Doom can run on anything

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Sockser posted:

Too many remixes of [Big Shot]
not enough remixes of [Now's Your Chance To Be A]

related,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1OMXNJ9mHM

This worked really well for highlighting The World Revolving, but god drat do I want a swing/jazz version of Spamton's battle music now :stare:

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

Honestly was one of the weakest showings from cam, I feel the Mashup magic he likes to do on these remixes got blunted a bit because Toby basically already did that to make the original track so there was less direction to really push things. Cam's world revolving remix is still my favorite ut/Dr remix from him

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Zamujasa posted:

This worked really well for highlighting The World Revolving, but god drat do I want a swing/jazz version of Spamton's battle music now :stare:

and then you have the gall to not link it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ex56FXdSE

Magitek
Feb 20, 2008

That's not jolly.
That's not jolly at all!

Classy Hydra posted:

Chapter 7 - / / / JRPG Final Dungeon Bingo / / / (Ralsei's Dark World?)

What would the center square be? “Final boss has multiple phases/forms?”

Neuronyx
Dec 8, 2016

Baron La Croix posted:

Sans is voiced by Bill Fagerbakke.

I appreciate this on several levels.

EDIT: I don't see the appeal of just adding a shitton of drum 'n bass and speeding up a track and calling it a remix. But i'm a plebian i'm sure the music's great, maybe I just don't know better.

Neuronyx fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Oct 19, 2021

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A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Neuronyx posted:

I appreciate this on several levels.

https://youtu.be/m4N2SFU2_lE

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