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Brut posted:Now granted I only went from Android 8 to 11 a few weeks ago when I got my 5a, so I don't actually know what I'm talking about, but isn't the whole point of an android phone in general that I can customize just about anything? It's baffling to me that ya'll are talking about a lockscreen you can't change, is that just the state of things these days or am I missing something? The point of Android phones is that OEMs can customize just about anything.
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My lockscreen clock has now changed from the awful stacked layout, to a different layout where everything's now shoved in the upper-left corner: ...I like it a little better than the 'old new one' but, I've a sinking feeling it'll go away if I restart the thing. It's still missing the option to change the system font, too.
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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Ya, that's what it looks like if you have a notification. Dismiss it and it goes back to the stacked layout
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Had a spigen liquid air case on my 4XL, got the same one for the 6 (without realising it)
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Oct 20, 2021 11:31
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How have the speakers been like on past Pixels? My phone is my primary podcast listening device so I'm hoping for something decent.
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Does the regular Pixel 6 have 30W wired charging? Edit: NM, it does. Would I need a new cable for that or would the charger itself suffice? WattsvilleBlues fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Oct 20, 2021 |
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Oct 20, 2021 12:41
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Charger, as long as the cable can handle the higher wattage (most should/do). I haven't used an in-box charger in years. Got a multi port 100+W to charge a bunch of stuff including laptop and that is plenty. Not worried about charge speed overnight. But going back to wireless charging will be nice.
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Oct 20, 2021 12:54
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Are the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro launchers really only 4 apps across? My Pixel 3, which is definitely smaller, is 5.
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Oct 20, 2021 13:18
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The Merkinman posted:Are the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro launchers really only 4 apps across? My Pixel 3, which is definitely smaller, is 5. It's customizable 
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Just picked up two spigen pixel 6 pro cases, rugged armor and slim armor cs, and am very happy with both. I've bought like half a dozen spigen cases per year and they seem to be better quality than the recent Samsung ones. Really good texture and just enough protection. poo poo, is this confirmed? The Armor CS cases for other phones say that they work with wireless.
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Oct 20, 2021 13:24
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Wait does the pixel 6 pro need a specific charger? I assume it didn't include one but everyone has fifty USB c chargers lying around their home so I don't mind but does it need a specific wattage or whatever? And will it charge with the original pixel stand?
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It will use any USB -c charger just fine. If you want full 30w charging you will need a PPS capable charger.
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I haven't seen any decent leather cases yet for the 6 Pro; I'm specifically looking for something like the case I had for my brief dalliance with iPhones (a snap-on shell style, not one of those wallet things). Anyone seen anything like that, other than the one that was on the Google store that had already "sold out" the moment the phones went live? e: something like this 
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Anyone have a recommendation for a wireless charger? I'd like something that just lays flat if at all possible
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sourdough posted:It's customizable it’s adjustable but at least on the pixel 5, i’ve run into a really annoying thing wrt new widgets: if you use the 4x5 grid, things like the weather and yt music widget are 2x3 and you can put them side by side. If you change to the 5x5 grid? those same widgets randomly become 3x3 so now you’re unable to ever have them side by side. google… pls…
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bull3964 posted:So, they use the two bigs a once at a scaled down frequency to get better speed an efficiency as dual A76s at a MUCH lower thermal overhead. I've been trying to find the article I read a month or so back on this, but I'm coming up short. Basically, they put in dual A76 instead of the newer A78s, but on a smaller process. They theorized that you could get ~60-75% of the A78 over A76 gains just by going to the smaller process and that you might get some serious thermal wins along the way with the older core. I'm hoping this pans out in real world usage, since I rarely game but do frequently find my 4XL getting bogged down processing photos or trying to do anything else while running Android Auto.
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I do hope the concern about embargo being so long turns out to be unfounded and that the device is really excellent. I'd really be excited to have a SoC that can compete with Apple's mobile offerings and their Tensor chip does look very nice. I'll wait and see where we're at when reviews start coming out. Either way I'll probably wait for black friday to see if we get any sales.
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I'll take efficient use of existing horsepower over specs any day. The fastest chips in the world do gently caress-all for you if your software can't utilize them properly. This is my daily hell. I manage really big fast servers that can do a shitton of work, but they're slightly slower for the application we use because their clocks are a tiny bit lower and the software is almost entirely dependent upon the bulk megahertz available.
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sleepwalkers posted:it’s adjustable but at least on the pixel 5, i’ve run into a really annoying thing wrt new widgets: if you use the 4x5 grid, things like the weather and yt music widget are 2x3 and you can put them side by side. If you change to the 5x5 grid? those same widgets randomly become 3x3 so now you’re unable to ever have them side by side. google… pls… This is one of the reasons I still stick with Nova Launcher even though the native launchers aren't hot garbage any more. (Well that and anything below 7 icons to a row is barbaric).
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sleepwalkers posted:it’s adjustable but at least on the pixel 5, i’ve run into a really annoying thing wrt new widgets: if you use the 4x5 grid, things like the weather and yt music widget are 2x3 and you can put them side by side. If you change to the 5x5 grid? those same widgets randomly become 3x3 so now you’re unable to ever have them side by side. google… pls… Don't complain about this too hard or you'll end up with the grid that iPad OS did where there is almost 3 inches on all sides.
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It's worth it to note that Apple went to dual bigs awhile ago. The single big prime core is a recent change by Qualcomm. That arrangement started with the SD855, but even that and the SD865 used the same arch as the mid cores, the prime core was just clocked higher with more cache. With the SD888, they changed the arch of the prime core to X1 and made the mid cores A78 (from all A77 cores in the SD865). The real question with all of this is what are Qualcomm's goals with this arrangement? Realistically, 98% of the stuff using an upper level snapdragon SoC is an Android device, so that's the target. However, it's seems as though they are more concerned with posting "percentage over last year numbers" that aren't fully quantified than actually delivering a package that provides consistent good performance in a manageable thermal envelope. If light to moderate steady state workloads are the things that heat up and bog down devices, then the right strategy may be to run them on over spec but downclocked cores. Mobile scheduling has always been scale up and race to finish so you can go back to sleep state, but planning your whole arch around that (like Qualcomm has done with a 1+3+4 arrangement) may be going too far as you are spending more thermal budget on moderate persistent tasks which is a real problem on passively cooled devices.
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As the Ars article said though, this less about what the main SoC is doing and more about the algorithms they optimized for in the ML co-processor. This is significant. You could say "but they did co-processor in the past" and that would be correct, but the difference here they are included on the SoC rather than an off chip DSP. That potentially means better access to memory and cache, direct connections between the main SoC and the co-processor for higher bandwidth and less latency. The HDR video processing may be the best example of that. It simply may not have been possible to do with an off SoC DSP before since 4k60 video right off the sensor would be very bandwidth intensive.
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bull3964 posted:As the Ars article said though, this less about what the main SoC is doing and more about the algorithms they optimized for in the ML co-processor. This is significant. Bandwidth intensive and latency sensitive. If on-chip means the latency is X, and off-chip means latency is X*2, it doesn't matter if X is a millisecond or a nanosecond, once any appreciable volume of tasks starts going through that path, double latency is murder on performance in a big goddamn hurry
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In Android 12, the way the screen stretches and bounces when I reach the end of the page is making me seasick.
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FogHelmut posted:In Android 12, the way the screen stretches and bounces when I reach the end of the page is making me seasick. The description doesn't sound so bad, but it's too extreme an effect for something you see every time you scroll to the end of a page or list. The entire screen stretching is just too much.
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IDK what the end of scroll bounce animation is supposed to improve, it feels like a bored programmer said "look at this neat thing I did" and Google said "yeah that's definitely going into Android 12"
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FogHelmut posted:In Android 12, the way the screen stretches and bounces when I reach the end of the page is making me seasick. Oh my god I thought I was just imagining this.
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Holy poo poo. So I’m at best buy right now. They have the p6s on display
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ThermoPhysical posted:Holy poo poo. So I’m at best buy right now. They have the p6s on display Mess around with the camera?
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sourdough posted:Mess around with the camera? I am, its drat nice. Its got 20x zoom. I’ve got video and pics I’ll upload in a bit
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Oh gently caress yes tell us everything!
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CLAM DOWN posted:Oh gently caress yes tell us everything! The audio for the 6pro is kinda low but it may be due to the music bby is playing in the background. The phone got decently warm while using it but they JUST set them up so updates etc
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 pixel buds just shipped and should be here Friday. Gives me some confidence that the dates/availability for the phone are going to be accurate as well.also CLAM DOWN posted:Oh gently caress yes tell us everything! 
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I actually came here to pick up my pixel buds because i was impatient/bored. This is a nice surprise tbh
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Ohh tell me if I hosed up by cancelling my Pro for a 6
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Can y'all recommend some mid-tier, non-pixel Android phones? Currently eyeballing the Samsung S21 regular, not sure if there are other competitors around that price point worth considering.
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