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ALFbrot posted:I think the fundamental problem is a deep disconnect in what people think Ghostbusters should be. Unfortunately, the loudest segment of fandom is manchildren who all grew up, as I did, not realizing that Ghostbusters was a comedy. When I was a kid, it was just this kickass spooky action movie that occasionally had funny moments, and my siblings and friends and I would always play Ghostbusters. In our minds, the cool props were toyetic to the extreme, the ECTO-1 was never a punchline but always a cool ride, and we all convinced ourselves that what we wanted were more stories in that universe (an itch that was largely scratched by The Real Ghostbusters) All of this and the fact that it's just from an age when those kind of movies were possible. I feel like pre-internet movies had a lot more leeway. I'm totally describing this wrong and can't put my finger on it, but before the internet just created instant global knowledge, the idea of a ghost hunting movie - comedy aside - could just work better. People still shared ghost stories among friends and lore building was so literally word of mouth that everything felt.... plausible is the wrong word but.... well gently caress I don't know. I shouldn't have even started typing because I'm not certain exactly what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying the movie was realistic (lol) but that these kinds of movies just worked better before everyone was a know-it-all-constantly-online-cynical-rear end in a top hat? I don't know. edit: jesus poo poo what a horrible page snipe
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AFewBricksShy posted:How long has the flash movie been in production? I thought it was canceled after Miller strangled a woman and shoved her to the ground on video but I was wrong
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BonoMan posted:All of this and the fact that it's just from an age when those kind of movies were possible. I feel like pre-internet movies had a lot more leeway. I'm totally describing this wrong and can't put my finger on it, but before the internet just created instant global knowledge, the idea of a ghost hunting movie - comedy aside - could just work better. People still shared ghost stories among friends and lore building was so literally word of mouth that everything felt.... plausible is the wrong word but.... well gently caress I don't know. I shouldn't have even started typing because I'm not certain exactly what I'm trying to say. I'm not saying the movie was realistic (lol) but that these kinds of movies just worked better before everyone was a know-it-all-constantly-online-cynical-rear end in a top hat? I don't know. what you're describing is verisimilitude. Ghostbusters achieves verisimilitude because you can believe the events in the movie occurring in the place and time. The same thing happens with modern horror/slashers, they have to contend with phones / cameras being ubiquitous and informing being able to travel incredibly quickly.
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Oct 18, 2021 23:32
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Haven’t polls shown more people believe in ghosts now than in the 80s?
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Jerkface posted:what you're describing is verisimilitude. Ghostbusters achieves verisimilitude because you can believe the events in the movie occurring in the place and time. The same thing happens with modern horror/slashers, they have to contend with phones / cameras being ubiquitous and informing being able to travel incredibly quickly. whydirt posted:Haven’t polls shown more people believe in ghosts now than in the 80s? Maybe… I mean verisimilitude is part of the essence of what I’m trying to describe. But I’m not sure if it’s just that literal. It’s (versimilitude x cultural zeitgeist) / it’s point on a definable and finite timeline of film evolution = Ghostbusters. And a million other films iconic of their decades. It’s literally impossible to ever reconstitute that for certain films.
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ALFbrot posted:I think the fundamental problem is a deep disconnect in what people think Ghostbusters should be. Unfortunately, the loudest segment of fandom is manchildren who all grew up, as I did, not realizing that Ghostbusters was a comedy. When I was a kid, it was just this kickass spooky action movie that occasionally had funny moments, and my siblings and friends and I would always play Ghostbusters. In our minds, the cool props were toyetic to the extreme, the ECTO-1 was never a punchline but always a cool ride, and we all convinced ourselves that what we wanted were more stories in that universe (an itch that was largely scratched by The Real Ghostbusters) I was surprised Bill and Ted 3 worked as well as it did, but walked in with a very, very low bar. Seems like a similar scenario. I'm curious how Bill and Ted was received at the time it was released.
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Beaucoup Cuckoo posted:I was surprised Bill and Ted 3 worked as well as it did, but walked in with a very, very low bar. Seems like a similar scenario. I was only ten but I seem to recall it being very well received. Not sure how well it did at the boxoffice but it was the talk of the town!
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Oct 19, 2021 01:31
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Good enough for sequels and a cartoon so likely very well received
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They couldn’t even recapture the magic of Ghostbusters with the same director, actors, and writers five years later with the exact same story. It is perfectly of its time.
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Parkingtigers posted:Nerd pedant voice: why is the car chasing the ghost? Once it has been contained in the proton stream it won't be able to move away so all you're doing at that point is taking it for a walk causing needless environmental damage, furthermore... Or...they're children and have no idea how the technology works.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:They couldn’t even recapture the magic of Ghostbusters with the same director, actors, and writers five years later with the exact same story. It is perfectly of its time. True, it comes from the peak 'get the government off my back' years and echoes those sentiments constantly. A GB film truly of our own era would have to genuflect to the paleoconservatives.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:True, it comes from the peak 'get the government off my back' years and echoes those sentiments constantly. A GB film truly of our own era would have to genuflect to the paleoconservatives. True 2021 GhostBusters: The squad doesn't bother busting ghosts and instead provides measures for businesses to live with the ghosts (all of which are scams). Ghostpocalypse happens, no one cares because no one believes ghosts are real since they "do their own research" despite all the evidence staring them in the face (the one aspect holding over from the originals). All humans die. The End.
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This looks cool and fun and good and if you do not agree then you are not cool and fun and good: https://twitter.com/NetflixGeeked/status/1450431544905064451
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feedmyleg posted:This looks cool and fun and good and if you do not agree then you are not cool and fun and good: This was inventive and slick and fun! Not entirely sold on the style of the line reads, but if they're consistent then it's a choice and I'm ok with it. I hope the full series has stylistic flourishes like this, but hopefully not 100% of the time, as I was getting a little fatigued by the end of this.
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ALFbrot posted:This was inventive and slick and fun! Not entirely sold on the style of the line reads, but if they're consistent then it's a choice and I'm ok with it. I hope the full series has stylistic flourishes like this, but hopefully not 100% of the time, as I was getting a little fatigued by the end of this. I'm not sold on the show, because I just can't stand anime (sorry) and that's the source material, but that is one really fun trailer. Very well done. The fact that I'm considering watching it at all is a huge achievement by them.
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Oct 19, 2021 15:48
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John Cho is just too old to play this. He looks sleepy. I've never watched the anime but I read this character is supposed to be 27. Cho is almost 50 years old.
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Vintersorg posted:John Cho is just too old to play this. He looks sleepy. I've never watched the anime but I read this character is supposed to be 27. Cho is almost 50 years old. Plus, sure the original character was 27, but who's to say they didn't change up his backstory for the live action one? (also, 27 in anime years means you're practically a senior citizen)
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thrawn527 posted:I'm not sold on the show, because I just can't stand anime (sorry) and that's the source material, but that is one really fun trailer. Very well done. The fact that I'm considering watching it at all is a huge achievement by them. Thank you for apologizing to me. Also, I don't remember feeling like Spike's age was at all material to the story, but maybe my memory is fuzzy as I, myself, am an Old
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feedmyleg posted:This looks cool and fun and good and if you do not agree then you are not cool and fun and good: That was... a lot. Definitely more interesting then the other stuff they have released. I'm assuming that the fourth wall stuff is just for this short. If not, that will get really old really quick. Gives me much more confidence that they can do the fast/actiony parts. Will be interesting to see if they can do slower, more contemplative moments.
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It just feels like something Edgar Wright was already doing over a decade ago. But video editing has been so "democratized" by YouTube, Twitch, and e-sports organization that I am probably not a fan in general of going nuts with After Effects etc.
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The action choreo and shooting looks pretty Marvel-tier with a few Scott Pilgrim flourishes. Not a huge fan of the original show either, so I think I'll pass unless it gets rave reviews.
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feedmyleg posted:This looks cool and fun and good and if you do not agree then you are not cool and fun and good: The visuals got overplayed after 30 seconds. Is the whole thing going to be like that? And Ghostbusters looks like shite. Reitman hasn't got a loving clue why the film his dad made was any good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgZDpdnMULQ
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Spike looks too old and tired, and Jet doesn't look grizzled enough, but I think those problems will fade away after like the first episode. It's just a kind of visual shock.
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The new Batman trailer reminds me of one of those times a moment in a trailer worked better than in the movie. In Batman Forever, there's that bit in the trailer when Batman crashes through the skylight and Riddler goes to Two-Face, "Your entrance was good..." then it cuts to another second of Batman action, "...his was better." In the movie Riddler's line is said uninterrupted without cutting away and just doesn't hit as well.
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I'm loving the look of the new Batman. That heavy Crow/Seven vibe is just everything to the 15 year old me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT544Y0yhIg Is it just me, or is this hiding Kidman as Lucy, while not really hiding Bardem as Desi? Screenshot aside.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZOnOfc83Q0 Bonus : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDH140dLq5M
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Whalberg is a bad choice for Sully, that will not change, but the movie doesn't look terrible. Definitely generic, but not terrible. Looks like they're combining 3 and 4 into one movie, cutting the Shangrila stuff from 3 and replacing it with bits of 4's story. Turning Rafe from a rich whiny white guy into Antonio Banderas seems like a good call, though.
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Oct 21, 2021 14:12
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That looks terrible, holy poo poo.
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Oct 21, 2021 14:38
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I love you Tom Holland, but I'm sorry, you can't pull off grown-rear end man yet. Or if you can I haven't seen it on screen. Maybe let him have some stubble or something.
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Is it just me, or is the trailer cut in a way that makes it seem like Drake and Sully meet in a bar and hook up? Funny that they bring up Sam so quickly instead of waiting until the fourth movie. And I kind of get why Elena isn't in the movie. Chloe is technically more interesting than another wisecracking fish-out-of-water that Nathan seems to be. But Elena did grow on me a lot in the games, so I'm a little bummed. Movie looks ok. But it doesn't look like it will have the charm that elevated the games.
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Very weird casting, trailer is very ... maybe lazy? Everything seems super generic, like they're desperate to hide some bits.
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Yeah, I agree with everything said. Looks generic as hell, and miscast. And that cargo plane scene looks too cartoonish and ridiculous, it takes me right out of the movie. Like Legolas jumping on the rocks in The Hobbit. Just too fake. It didn't give me any reason to want to see it.
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Tom Holland talked about this movie in a GQ interview from a while ago. Before he began work on No Way Home Tom Holland shot another movie, Uncharted, due out in 2022. If Cherry is an independent “action” film shot by directors who have more affinity with someone like Steven Soderbergh, then Uncharted has more in common with a Michael Bay action movie. It required more bulking up from Holland. It also required a little more cool. Not cool cool. Not Soderbergh. But cool, as in Holland had to stand “looking cool”. It was an experiment in vanity that left an odd taste in his mouth. “As soon as you start worrying about ‘Do I look good in this shot?’ acting becomes something other than playing a character. I think there are elements of my performance in Uncharted where I kind of fell under that spell of being ‘I want to look good now. I want this to be my cool moment.’ I had to play this very tough, very stoic guy – basically be Mark Wahlberg. My character is supposed to be a loving action hero in this moment! Look, I haven’t seen it, so I don’t know if I succeeded in that. But it was an important lesson learned, because, at times, it was less about land a mark and go through this scene and more about land a mark, stand like this and see my bulging biceps... It was a mistake and is something that I will probably never do again.”
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god bless Tom Holland but he is not what I would cast if I was looking for "stoic"
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Isn't this supposed to be the origin story and that's why they're all so young. Either way he's wayyy to young still (DiCaprio, for me personally, has a lot of the same issue. Fantastic actor but he has a baby face). Movie wise it just looks like a bland M:I/Tomb Raider mashup. The production values are all too clean. The games have always had a gritty feeling to them and they just look like they're cosplaying here.
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ALFbrot posted:I think the fundamental problem is a deep disconnect in what people think Ghostbusters should be. Unfortunately, the loudest segment of fandom is manchildren who all grew up, as I did, not realizing that Ghostbusters was a comedy. When I was a kid, it was just this kickass spooky action movie that occasionally had funny moments, and my siblings and friends and I would always play Ghostbusters. In our minds, the cool props were toyetic to the extreme, the ECTO-1 was never a punchline but always a cool ride, and we all convinced ourselves that what we wanted were more stories in that universe (an itch that was largely scratched by The Real Ghostbusters) It's such a mordant, funny idea. Blue collar comedy thru the prism of high concept hijinks. My take on it would be just a regular sequel to the original movies, and what would naturally happen after a couple decades. Crews of ghostbusting crews working in NYC in what is now seen as a very common profession, ghosts being akin to rats and other vermin. And one group trying to make a name for themselves (maybe some of them just trying to get thru the day, like Ernie in the earlier movies). Then something super weird and super big interrupts them to catastrophic and funny results. It's not that hard! For a SA poo poo post!
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