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paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
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AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

yeah but they are poo poo countries like bolivia and chad come back when they start loving up s-ranks like france or china

Its called the Suez Crisis

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

france was late to the show but the US-based psycho thinktank mill got them eventually

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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i personally know three west african people who had their fairly comfortable lives turned into to ash because sarkozy and blair had hot rebar shoved up gaddafis rear end. all of them tell it was the best part of their lives before coming to finland

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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i mean im sure the libyans still remaining alive appreciate all the freedom they now have. freedom from food, freedom from housing. freedom from justice and peace

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018
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https://twitter.com/declassifiedUK/status/1450776306811998211

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

i mean, the only way you’ll get saudi to stop the war in yemen is to either completely stop weapons or make it clear their regime is at stake if they don’t stop.

as it is, Saudi has lost the war in Yemen in a very real strategic sense, because they were led by the nose by the Emiratis and refused to work with the only big group of Yemenis who could provide a base of support against the houthis (because they were Muslim brotherhood), the Saudi led side was fractured beyond any hope and the Emiratis are busy crafting their own fascist poo poo hole puppet state in the south of the country. the houthis won and have not only held out militarily and control the largest population centers other than Aden they have also taken the war into Saudi Arabia through drones and missiles and it’s finally reaching the thick skulls of the people in charge in Riyadh that the war is truly lost. which is why they’re right now negotiating with Iran to come to some sort of settlement to end the war.

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Oct 26, 2014
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Al-Saqr posted:

pretty bad considering Egypt-UAE-Russia-France are funding an insane Gaddaffi wannabe military dictator who split the country in half, thankfully the turks came through, hopefully they can somehow manage the transition period now the fightings died down. At least Gaddafi's dead!

From what I understand Haftar is more secular than the U.S./Turkish/UN backed GNA, who have implemented sharia law? Granted he has some Islamist mercenaries on his side but the GNA split up over decisions on Islamism vs. secularism which boosted Haftar's claim to power, and the GNA is was using foreign fighters from Syria backed by Turkey.

Surely if Russian imperialism upsets you than so should Islamism and U.S./Turkish imperialism.

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V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

haftar is a guy who knows the deal and who's connected in the east of the country, the old cyrenaican part which iirc is actually mostly considered more conservative. the tripoli government is a weird mix but apparently involves muslim brotherhood affiliates and lacks a clear strongman figure like haftar. i don't know what's up with the new government of national unity, having not followed libya for close to a year

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

no matter where we fall on the al sadr - Paul spectrum, I think we can all agree that mena needs to legalize weed.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1451312888791117830?s=20

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/ikushkush/status/1451190485234507782?s=20

guidoanselmi posted:

no matter where we fall on the al sadr - Paul spectrum, I think we can all agree that mena needs to legalize weed.

https://twitter.com/khalidalbaih/status/1451179117555052550?s=20

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
really happy the Sudanese are showing up in force for democracy, I truly hope they can wrench power from the military, this is going to be a tough challenge though because the military clique features UAE backed mass murderers who are OK with killing people.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

please do not ever hand it to Turkey

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/eyderp/s...038959279222786

It looks like Abiy/Amhara Regions current offensive is failing too. TDF might actually link up with OLA as they push deeper into Amhara region.

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004


Obama quietly picks up the phone

"Hi Joe. You, uh, you are. No this is Barack

BARACK

I'm calling about sudan, looks like you need to send no BARACK your old boss

No I'm not Bea...

Yes father. I'm, uh, in heaven and I love you and uh, you need to drone strike the sudan soon. Tell hunter to uh, take care of my wife"

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1451401712938405893

I Love Annie May
Oct 10, 2012
https://twitter.com/stesfa/status/1451274593373671427

uhhh apparently abiy is lobbying the usa for a blockade of eritrea, how likely is it to happen?

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

I Love Annie May posted:

https://twitter.com/stesfa/status/1451274593373671427

uhhh apparently abiy is lobbying the usa for a blockade of eritrea, how likely is it to happen?

you're reafding it backwards: its the TPLF using their links in the US for it, it would be odd for Abiy to ask for it since eritrea is (or was) doing a bunch of fighting for him.

it would be funny if the us sent ships into the red sea for a conflict that the US really has no dog in and they started immediately getting attacked by houthi missiles

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

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We're already interrupting commerce in the Red Sea, but it's Yemen's so nobody cares.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/StateDeptSpox/status/1450903253672239116?s=20
https://twitter.com/PowerUSAID/status/1451611136642715658?s=20

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

busy day in Syria

US drone strikes
https://twitter.com/BryanDBender/status/1451716200690421761?s=20

The Government and YPG seem to be united in stopping Turkey and it's allies from rolling into Tel Rifaat

They held rallies today in Tel Rifaat
https://twitter.com/EgidRoj6/status/1451870679138189318?s=20
https://twitter.com/NPA_English/status/1451646567736352772?s=20

Turkey has been pretty open about its intentions for a few days
https://twitter.com/DiegoCupolo/status/1448995947376168962?s=20

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Most moral military in the world 🇹🇷

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames

Al-Saqr posted:

i dunno dude why don’t you ask people who are in the inner circle of the Syrian regime hanging out in Beverly Hills banging Israelis:-

https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1448104968288882695?s=21

i wonder why he's hiding in america

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-tycoon/syrian-government-orders-seizure-of-assets-of-assads-cousin-makhlouf-idUSKBN22V1IC

drat assad really going out of his way to protect his corrupt cousins

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Aug 30, 2011
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paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Goast posted:

i wonder why he's hiding in america

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-tycoon/syrian-government-orders-seizure-of-assets-of-assads-cousin-makhlouf-idUSKBN22V1IC

drat assad really going out of his way to protect his corrupt cousins

Lol

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Goast posted:

i wonder why he's hiding in america

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-tycoon/syrian-government-orders-seizure-of-assets-of-assads-cousin-makhlouf-idUSKBN22V1IC

drat assad really going out of his way to protect his corrupt cousins

hell yeah brother an internal fight in a Nazi regime between Rami makhlouf and Bashar Al assads family for money nine years after they destroyed their own country and gassed kids to stay in power a sign that the great leader assad is an incorruptible bastion of socialist vanguardism, be sure to ignore Bashars side of the family wealth stolen from the Syrian people while you’re at it. hell yes brother socialism is gonna be here any day now. :jerkbag:


it’s really sad how much you types love licking fascist boots it’s pathetic really, I hope one day you get some form of morals and principles to build your worldview on instead of whatever wierd imaginary Cold War fantasyland you’re in. anyways, congrats on fascism winning this round I guess.

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lollontee
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Al-Saqr posted:

hell yeah brother an internal fight in a Nazi regime between Rami makhlouf and Bashar Al assads family for money nine years after they destroyed their own country and gassed kids to stay in power a sign that the great leader assad is an incorruptible bastion of socialist vanguardism, be sure to ignore Bashars side of the family wealth stolen from the Syrian people while you’re at it. hell yes brother socialism is gonna be here any day now. :jerkbag:


it’s really sad how much you types love licking fascist boots it’s pathetic really, I hope one day you get some form of morals and principles to build your worldview on instead of whatever wierd imaginary Cold War fantasyland you’re in. anyways, congrats on fascism winning this round I guess.

the syrian people evidently prefer assad to the rebels at this of the fighting

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

lollontee posted:

the syrian people evidently prefer assad to the rebels at this of the fighting

hell yeah let’s ask the Russians and Iranians and Iraqis and Lebanese who did 90% of the lifting for assads war effort, whatever you do don’t poll all the dead people and the half of the country that managed to escape.

“after successfully wiping out all the civilians and driving the rest away, it’s clear this empty husk of a city prefers the Nazi who will kill anyone left in the city if they say otherwise”

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Al-Saqr posted:

hell yeah let’s ask the Russians and Iranians and Iraqis and Lebanese who did 90% of the lifting for assads war effort, whatever you do don’t poll all the dead people and the half of the country that managed to escape.

youre saying that syrians didnt fight for assad in opposition to the jihadist rebels

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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we've had this debate a couple of time already my man, but if after a decade of brutal war with mutual casualty counts in the hundreds of thousands, with the other guys still not giving up, your conclusion is that no part of the syrian people support them?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

lollontee posted:

youre saying that syrians didnt fight for assad in opposition to the jihadist rebels

I’m saying that far less Syrians particularly those who had a blind loyalty to the regime fought for Bashar al Assad than the rebels yes. it’s pretty clear that the regime was about to be toppled if it weren’t for Russia.

listen we’ve been through this I get it you guys are psychotically pro fascism if it fits your inner dialogue tree or whatever go ahead and celebrate you won and got what you wanted. there’s nothing more to say on this topic.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

lollontee posted:

we've had this debate a couple of time already my man, but if after a decade of brutal war with mutual casualty counts in the hundreds of thousands, with the other guys still not giving up, your conclusion is that no part of the syrian people support them?

it’s very easy for 10% of the population to control the other 90% if they have five different armies and Air Forces to support them. i don’t think you understand how fascism works.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Al-Saqr posted:

I’m saying that far less Syrians particularly those who had a blind loyalty to the regime fought for Bashar al Assad than the rebels yes. it’s pretty clear that the regime was about to be toppled if it weren’t for Russia.

listen we’ve been through this I get it you guys are psychotically pro fascism if it fits your inner dialogue tree or whatever go ahead and celebrate you won and got what you wanted. there’s nothing more to say on this topic.

theres plenty more on this topic, but at this point it sounds like to me, that youre mostly accusing me of being a psychotic fascist because your chosen faction turned out to be a bunch of murderous nihilists that nobody wanted to live under. also, my chosen faction was from day one Rojava, this poo poo about me being pro-assad is just your imagination. i get that im the bad guy cuz i loving called it in both libya and syria while posting with you, but theres no need to feel smug about it :grin:

secondly, the whole war wouldnt have happened if not for western and turkish support for it, so i guess i dont really see your point. would the assad regime be purer if it wasnt allied with russia and iran, in your opinion?

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Al-Saqr posted:

it’s very easy for 10% of the population to control the other 90% if they have five different armies and Air Forces to support them. i don’t think you understand how fascism works.

You keep using that word, yet I don't see how it fits in any way or form. Fascism is when the Russian airforce bombs rebels for you?

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Al-Saqr posted:

it’s very easy for 10% of the population to control the other 90% if they have five different armies and Air Forces to support them. i don’t think you understand how fascism works.

assad had more than 10%

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

lollontee posted:

theres plenty more on this topic, but at this point it sounds like to me, that youre mostly accusing me of being a psychotic fascist because your chosen faction turned out to be a bunch of murderous nihilists that nobody wanted to live under. also, my chosen faction was from day one Rojava, this poo poo about me being pro-assad is just your imagination. i get that im the bad guy cuz i loving called it in both libya and syria while posting with you, but theres no need to feel smug about it :grin:

secondly, the whole war wouldnt have happened if not for western and turkish support for it, so i guess i dont really see your point. would the assad regime be purer if it wasnt allied with russia and iran, in your opinion?

as usual the dialogue tree of the brain dead western tankie:- all Syrians who opposed assad are terrorists - jerking off to the ethnonationalist dead end Rojava project because it’s a great way to not have to support stinky Arabs after ignoring the war for half a decade- the war was a foreign plot and not the end result of assad immediately killing people on sight - it’s good when other countries prop up Nazi regimes because of anti imperialism or whatever.

yawn

anyways, congrats you won. assad will live in luxury protected by Russians and Iranians and Syrians will forever be destitute and will have to look over their shoulders for the rest of their lives or be tortured and killed for complaining and will live a few more decades under total fascism until the next big Arab uprising happens if ever. congrats!

Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 18:58 on Oct 24, 2021

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Al-Saqr posted:

as usual the dialogue tree of the brain dead western tankie:- all Syrians who opposed assad are terrorists - jerking off to the ethnonationalist dead end Rojava project because it’s a great way to not have to support stinky Arabs after ignoring the war for half a decade- the war was a foreign plot and not the end result of assad immediately killing people on sight - it’s good when other countries prop up Nazi regimes because of anti imperialism or whatever.

yawn

err....

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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i mean, syrians under assad are probably going to be better off than libyans without gaddafi

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Dec 26, 2012

Al-Saqr posted:

as usual the dialogue tree of the brain dead western tankie:- all Syrians who opposed assad are terrorists - jerking off to the ethnonationalist dead end Rojava project because it’s a great way to not have to support stinky Arabs after ignoring the war for half a decade- the war was a foreign plot and not the end result of assad immediately killing people on sight - it’s good when other countries prop up Nazi regimes because of anti imperialism or whatever.

yawn

anyways, congrats you won. assad will live in luxury protected by Russians and Iranians and Syrians will forever be destitute and will have to look over their shoulders for the rest of their lives or be tortured and killed for complaining and will live a few more decades under total fascism until the next big Arab uprising happens if ever. congrats!

Not sure

Al-Saqr posted:

haha that ruled.

shame the rest of the arab dictators didnt get that fate as well.

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and the total destruction of all state functions would have been a better outcome, but whatever.

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