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A Wizard of Goatse posted:why would you put up with any of that poo poo, an actual chimp could set up an image gallery and a ko-fi these days I mean, you do get your comics listed on what is probably the biggest webcomic portal currently online. I could not say how much good you actually get out of that, since the site is largely designed to funnel eyeballs to the comics that are already colossal megahits, but it's theoretically something.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:is it just some vanity press "be an Officially Published Comics Author like the Lore Olympus lady" thing
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Mors Rattus posted:You show up in the Webtoons app. Do you though, cause I've tried looking for the goofy little niche comics no-name authors publish there before and you literally can't get to half of them from the main site navigation, you have to go search them by name on Google or some poo poo to find them at all. Maybe I'm missing something but I get the strong impression you'd get way more cross-traffic from fans of the big comics by just slapping some fanart on Deviantart or something. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Oct 21, 2021 |
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Mors Rattus posted:I believe the terms are different if you are an officially backed, signed author as opposed to someone coming up through their hosting program. these are the terms to become a webtoons "official" (the elite users) and not just a "canvas" user (people looking to use the site to make money) A Wizard of Goatse posted:Do you though, cause I've tried looking for the goofy little niche comics no-name authors publish there before and you literally can't get to half of them from the main site navigation, you'd never know they existed. Maybe I'm missing something but I get the strong impression you'd get way more cross-traffic from fans of the big comics by just slapping some fanart on Deviantart or something. yeah, the algorithm is not made to help you. it's to make the parent company, naver, money. i forgot another thing: if you are an "official" webtoon you are subject to south korean censorship: https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2020/10/22/naver-accused-of-excessive-censorship-of-webtoons-after-string-of-controversies.html quote:Over 20,000 people up-voted comments on Episode 151 of The Girl from Random Chatting that mocked Naver Webtoon for making one of the characters drunk off of soda after alcohol was replaced by a soft drink.  
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the answer to "why are people subjecting themselves to this" is the same reason why everyone does any other overt scam like bitcoin or an mlm or working for booms comics lol. sure, they screwed those people....but maybe I'M different!
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So the Kickstarter for the release of the physical copies of the Girl Genius GURPS book launched this week.Kaja Foglio posted:GIRL GENIUS GURPS CAMPAIGN LAUNCHING OCTOBER 20, 2021!
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The_Other posted:So the Kickstarter for the release of the physical copies of the Girl Genius GURPS book launched this week. Huh. Gurps is still around? People still play Gurps? Someone thought enough about Gurps to make a Girl Genius Gurps sourcebook?
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I have heard that a lot of "originals" creators and larger "canvas" creators make up for webtoon's scummy practices by making BANK off of patreon. The lore olympus lady in particular posts porn of her characters on there which I'm sure is a big draw. Which isn't to say webtoon is at all justified in the way they treat their creators, of course, it's just that there's a workaround that seems to work out for people and I think that's why they put up with it.
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sweetguts posted:I have heard that a lot of "originals" creators and larger "canvas" creators make up for webtoon's scummy practices by making BANK off of patreon. The lore olympus lady in particular posts porn of her characters on there which I'm sure is a big draw. the rumor mill is that webtoons keeps a tight leash on that as well. im assuming you can only post things related to the comic that webtoons will not host (like porn) 
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Neito posted:Huh. Gurps is still around? If it's good enough for Discworld, it's good enough for Girl Genius. The answers to your other two questions are 'barely' and 'yes, but it's doubtful many of them buy new stuff.'
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If there's anything I've learned from the Sci-Fi Wi-Fi or DnD's RPG thread, it's that it doesn't matter whether or how people are playing a game, some people just really like reading RPG sourcebooks to find out more about a setting.
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GURPS is not a popular system these days, but then, the decision to use it was made approximately 100 years ago when the game was first announced. The only thing I read on Webtoon is Boyfriends, about polyamorous college students (named Nerd, Jock, Prep, and Goth) doing cute things.
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fun hater posted:holy poo poo that rules. i've never heard of this but this is so good for people looking to start out Its even better cuz that fiver is for up to 30 websites (50gb / 30k gb bandwith) so you could have your comic, your personal site and space for any number of oddball nonsense ideas that flit into your head (cuz you can just have any site you dont have a domain as a subdomain of neocities).
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fun hater posted:the rumor mill is that webtoons keeps a tight leash on that as well. im assuming you can only post things related to the comic that webtoons will not host (like porn) I don’t think they have a uniform policy here - some creators are still allowed to (Clawshot/Oneshot gets mirrored to the artist’s patreon and personal site) but others are not, because Naver is clownshoes.
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SlothfulCobra posted:If there's anything I've learned from the Sci-Fi Wi-Fi or DnD's RPG thread, it's that it doesn't matter whether or how people are playing a game, some people just really like reading RPG sourcebooks to find out more about a setting. This was me as a teenager. I don't have much experience with actual tabletop play.
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Solitair posted:This was me as a teenager. I don't have much experience with actual tabletop play. Same. I still have Slayers D20 and BESM TriStat around here somewhere.
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fun hater posted:i forgot another thing: if you are an "official" webtoon you are subject to south korean censorship: That isn't true for the English-language Webtoon, though.
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I use Webtoons for The Weekly Roll and that's about it. I follow a few on Tapas though.
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xcheopis posted:That isn't true for the English-language Webtoon, though. it happens all(lol at how mad this guy is) the time fun hater fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Oct 22, 2021 |
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There's an entire webtoon about butts: https://www.webtoons.com/en/comedy/the-hip-guy/list?title_no=2577 And loads of them definitely depict violence. https://www.webtoons.com/en/action/hero-killer/list?title_no=2745, https://www.webtoons.com/en/supernatural/spirit-hunter/list?title_no=3185, https://www.webtoons.com/en/action/ordeal/list?title_no=2729, etc.
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xcheopis posted:There's an entire webtoon about butts: https://www.webtoons.com/en/comedy/the-hip-guy/list?title_no=2577 the rule is not applied evenly (some originals get away with more than others, im assuming its who makes the money and how close they are to flirting with the law) but it seems to be more applied to gay comics
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which yes i realize is the webtoons bread and butter. i dont get it either
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yeah, pretty much all of posts fun hater linked specifically call out the censorship as being randomly and sometimes retroactively enforced when they complain about the vague guidelines involved (fun game: look at the address bar when browsing webtoons and see how many times the upload number skips because a page got taken down after the fact). the other webcomic thread had to switch to the artist's deviantart for one of the comics being posted when it became clear the webtoons version had like a fourth of the pages missing, apparently due to things like "visible cleavage" and "too detailed horse butt". it's pretty clearly a thing.
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additionally: why would i be lying about this. for fun
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Good grief. No one accused you of lying.
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I certainly wouldn't accuse fun hater of having fun.
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well jokes on you. i was lying for attention
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I don't think it's at all strange that the people who are still invested in GURPS are the same ones who're still invested in Girl Genius.
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Aside from Batman: Wayne Family Adventures I read Stagtown now on Webtoons. Also a few Korean comics I apparently started on, then gave up on.
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Oh is webtoons where all those ads for bootleg looking NotManga come from
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Captain Oblivious posted:Oh is webtoons where all those ads for bootleg looking NotManga come from Probably. 'Manwha.'
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i think that's lehzin actually, which is webtoons with far less censorship. im trying to remember who plagues disqus ads
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Twenty Four posted:Sorry yeah, I wasn't trying to stir the pot, but as everyone else said, it's mostly a format problem for me with webtoons. As primarily a PC user, it's a ton of scrolling and blank space, which I guess is supposed to somehow be aimed at a better mobile experience, but I don't think it is the right solution for that either. No opinion here or there content wise, "it's the internet, so whatever" is the best I can put it. SlothfulCobra posted:I don't like the experience of constantly scrolling, even if I'm fine with pages that may be longer or taller than my monitor. I want to read in discrete units so even if there's a little scrolling at the beginning, I can stop at a point and just look at most everything at once while it stays put on the screen. Some webtoons I've seen really play into the scrolling and expand indefinitely so maybe none of the individual pictures fit onscreen at the same time, maybe not even with any accompanying text, and they feel the need to add temporal pacing by adding big chunks of white space between bits instead of just being able to end one page and go on to the next. Yeah, I hate the format, basically everything I've read on webtoons would work fine as a "standard" page format and all the super-tall format does is mean I need to scroll endlessly rather than just tapping "next page" every few seconds. I've written a tool to download them for offline viewing, which means I can read them on my tablet, which is a bit of an improvement since at least it clears out all the other cruft from the website, but it's still not great. Lunatic Sledge posted:also a lot of browsers will default you to https if you just the type the name (somethingawful.com automatically becomes https://somethingawful.com) This can be (and AFAIK usually/always is) something on the website side; if you ask for the plain HTTP version the site will respond with a 301 MOVED PERMANENTLY message telling the browser to use the HTTPS version instead. Pretty much any website these days that supports HTTPS at all automatically redirects people to the HTTPS version if they try accessing the insecure version.
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Since webtoons was mentioned, started reading a couple new comics there since my last post, by far my favorite is Everything is Fine, which just finished its first season https://www.webtoons.com/en/horror/everything-is-fine/list?title_no=2578
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Machado de Assis posted:Since webtoons was mentioned, started reading a couple new comics there since my last post, by far my favorite is Everything is Fine, which just finished its first season dang, that's good
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Machado de Assis posted:Since webtoons was mentioned, started reading a couple new comics there since my last post, by far my favorite is Everything is Fine, which just finished its first season This loving rules.
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Machado de Assis posted:Since webtoons was mentioned, started reading a couple new comics there since my last post, by far my favorite is Everything is Fine, which just finished its first season read through this and i found it implausible that anyone could find the neighborhood burnings a surprise, then i went back and sure enough, someone mentions the "smell's getting in" when watching the "sunset." the skies still should be black with smoke, though it was decent overall, though i'd have to revisit in a year or something because i hate engaging with webtoons' format. still kind of amusing that someone essentially made a whole longform horror comic out of the "this is fine" dog
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That was quite good. Early on, someone also mentions that they work with box burning and it's not explained. Just everyone has a moment of silent horror they can't express.
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Oxxidation posted:read through this and i found it implausible that anyone could find the neighborhood burnings a surprise, then i went back and sure enough, someone mentions the "smell's getting in" when watching the "sunset." the skies still should be black with smoke, though I do think Everything Is Fine does a decent job of using the Webtoons format in a thoughtful way. I mean, first off the gutters are not that egregious by webtoon standards. But also, it uses a lot of repetitive static shots to convey pregnant pauses and build tension. It's a mode of storytelling that benefits from the slow, deliberate pacing that the scrolling creates. It's still slightly annoying. I'm glad for the rec, because without it I don't know that I would have stuck with it. Wittgen posted:That was quite good. It's not completely explained, but I think it's pretty clear from context. They're discussing their pointless, artificial "work" which consists of moving and tracking shipments of boxes around the neighborhood. There's an illusion that what they do might conceivably have some sort of useful function which is dispelled by the reminder that ultimately the boxes just go to an incinerator. This is not even secret knowledge, it is public information that the boxes have no use and are shuffled around just to eventually be destroyed, but the residents are still expected to maintain the charade that their jobs mean something.
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YggiDee posted:I use Webtoons for The Weekly Roll and that's about it. I follow a few on Tapas though.  The Weekly Roll is amazing fun
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