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I wonder if there was a class of people who weren't American when the census was made so we could point to an example as to why this would be. Oh well. 3/5 stars.
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Oct 22, 2021 01:45
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Their choice of quoted words is interesting:Medullah posted:• It was cool for Joe Biden to "blackmail" the President of Ukraine.
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Oct 22, 2021 01:49
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something something hunter biden i imagine
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Oct 22, 2021 02:49
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In the french census it is in fact illegal to track people's ethnicity or religion. Everyone is just french. As you can imagine this leads to absolutely no racism.
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Oct 22, 2021 02:51
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Oct 22, 2021 05:30
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Their choice of quoted words is interesting: There's a video of Biden talking about his visit to Ukraine where he said that he told the president of Ukraine that if the special investigator wasn't fired, they were going to refuse to give Ukraine aid. In the insane right wing mind, Biden is saying that because the special investigator was investigating Hunter Biden, which made Joe mad, and thus Joe blackmailed him by threatening to withhold the aid money. In reality, the special investigator was corrupt and not doing his job properly. I forget the details but it's basically the exact opposite of what the right is claiming.
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Oct 22, 2021 06:21
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It has been five years and I still don't have a loving clue over why Hillary's emails were so bad. The way these assholes talk, you'd think she was emailing around all of the US's secrets, nuclear launch codes, and a list of all the fears and hatreds of every politician in the country.
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Oct 22, 2021 06:22
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Cornwind Evil posted:It has been five years and I still don't have a loving clue over why Hillary's emails were so bad. The way these assholes talk, you'd think she was emailing around all of the US's secrets, nuclear launch codes, and a list of all the fears and hatreds of every politician in the country. I've tried asking which of Hillary's emails was so horrible, including on this very website when people were frothing over them in 2016, and never got a good answer.
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Oct 22, 2021 06:36
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Cornwind Evil posted:It has been five years and I still don't have a loving clue over why Hillary's emails were so bad. The way these assholes talk, you'd think she was emailing around all of the US's secrets, nuclear launch codes, and a list of all the fears and hatreds of every politician in the country. Because it's Hillary. That's it. That's the whole substance of it. They probably would claim she was doing something like that (because, gently caress, they certainly claim there's coded language for child porn in her campaign emails, because of 4chan's own code phrases for it), but it's easily as much because they're convinced that if they're allowed to root through her trash they'll find something that will get their political monster-under-the-bed LOCKED UP FOREVER AND THE LIBERALS WILL HAVE TO ADMIT HOW RIGHT WE ALWAYS WERE AND you get the picture. Just like how Ken Starr had to go outside the remit of his investigation to find something and everyone just shrugged and went along with that. Like, gently caress the Clintons, just like pretty much anyone else with power in this country, but their obsession is a very particular hate-boner.
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Oct 22, 2021 06:42
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Personally I believe that Hilary murdered Mr Heremails
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Oct 22, 2021 06:45
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Bare in one section, full everywhere else in the picture. Also no product tags at all.
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Oct 22, 2021 06:47
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I don't care enough to look it up but if I recall the non-conspiracy theory reason why Hilary's emails were a big deal (the conspiracy reason of course being "she was talking about having sex with kids to other Dems") was that her emails were being stored on a private server which was against the rules regarding how classified information is supposed to be stored. Of course the right only cared about it because a Dem did it, because someone in Trump's staff did the exact same thing early on in his presidency and they didn't give a poo poo about it.
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Oct 22, 2021 06:51
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I thought the "Hillary's Emails!!" thing was just that she had an unsecure email server. You know, unlike Trump, who definitely didn't spend all his time tweeting from an unsecure phone while on the shitter...
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Oct 22, 2021 06:54
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if you're even remotely halfway reasonable, it wasn't great that she was storing emails that could have included information that was some level of classified on a server that wasn't really rated for any serious levels of security, and mixing work and personal emails in one system can lead to some issues with freedom of information requests. Basically it was bad practice that shouldn't have been allowed...but it also wasn't illegal and wasn't worth anywhere near the craziness it got. It was the sort of thing that at a normal company might get you chewed out by the tech guy, but you're not getting fired or anything over it
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Oct 22, 2021 07:04
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She had all the chaos emeralds as an attachment in a drafted letter to jeff bezos
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Oct 22, 2021 07:10
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TheFlyingLlama posted:if you're even remotely halfway reasonable, it wasn't great that she was storing emails that could have included information that was some level of classified on a server that wasn't really rated for any serious levels of security, and mixing work and personal emails in one system can lead to some issues with freedom of information requests. Basically it was bad practice that shouldn't have been allowed...but it also wasn't illegal and wasn't worth anywhere near the craziness it got. That's the thing, and Trump's information security was like an order of magnitude worse.
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Oct 22, 2021 07:14
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Decades of propaganda just to attack this ONE woman is hell of a progaganda success story. Hope it never works again. Also gently caress mainstream media using the story. Also lol at the last pic. "Dont be distracted" *regressive media makes the trillions of nothing burger hills to die on* My favorite is them threatening down a library for canceling Dr. Suess.
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Oct 22, 2021 07:28
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Hilary used the death of Mr Ben Ghazi as a cover to steal the Dragonballs
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Oct 22, 2021 07:30
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Remember how the GOP wasted 4 years to get justice for Sean Smith's mom. Sure is weird they had all that power and didnt at least drone nuke the most evil woman in history.
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Oct 22, 2021 07:39
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LonsomeSon posted:Hilary used the death of Mr Ben Ghazi as a cover to steal the Dragonballs I can only wonder what her wish was.
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Oct 22, 2021 07:41
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Cornwind Evil posted:It has been five years and I still don't have a loving clue over why Hillary's emails were so bad. The way these assholes talk, you'd think she was emailing around all of the US's secrets, nuclear launch codes, and a list of all the fears and hatreds of every politician in the country. It's basically 1) she violated procedures for handling classified information and blamed it on ignorance on how to handle classified information (which is honestly a dubious explanation because I don't believe she's that dumb), and more importantly, 2) she wasn't penalized at all. You could say it was because there wasn't criminal intent, but neither was the NGA hoarder and he still had to take a misdemeaner plea. edit: That's why sensible people might consider the whole thing distateful. Further right of that and it's people who just assumed she personally ordered special forces to abandon the folk at benghazi because they knew what happened at beghazi.
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Oct 22, 2021 09:22
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tek79 posted:Somehow Martin Luthering Jr. stood for freedom but wasn't a Republican. I work with enough chuds that this is pretty much exactly how they'd "Fact Check" this - If MLK Jr. were alive today, he'd totally be a Republican and agree that Same with any person who is conveniently dead and therefore unable to speak on the matter. The fact that they already spoke on the matter, at length and in great detail, is irrelevant because that was then and this is now.
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Oct 22, 2021 09:36
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V-Men posted:It's basically 1) she violated procedures for handling classified information and blamed it on ignorance on how to handle classified information (which is honestly a dubious explanation because I don't believe she's that dumb), and more importantly, 2) she wasn't penalized at all. You could say it was because there wasn't criminal intent, but neither was the NGA hoarder and he still had to take a misdemeaner plea. Notable that the specific "classified information" included things like an excerpt of a NYT article sent to her by a personal friend outside the government. Something that didn't come from a government source, was public knowledge, and would not have been marked as classified even in normal channels, but still counted because of how baroque the system is. Another case was something classified by some other department, but not by State, so if she'd gotten it through internal servers it still wouldn't have come in over classified channels. Then I think some were straight up mislabeled by someone up the chain. I mean, there was no shortage of people citing things they half-remembered from the scared straight session of how you'll rot in jail if you leave any I undotted or any T uncrossed, but people with in-depth experience with federal cybersecurity, including forum users, tended to give it a big shrug. Even if she had known better, and had still been a federal employee when it all came to light, Clinton herself would have gotten a talking to by HR and a remedial training session, since that's how situations like hers got treated. (Former employees are exempt from training sessions.) The only person who might have faced real consequences would have the technical person (and there was one) who signed off on the arrangement. And there's just how common that level of IT mismanagement was, but somehow she's the only one where anyone cared about it.
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Oct 22, 2021 09:50
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Also when she replace Colin Powell he told her he had done the exact same set up for his emails. Ivanka then did the same for her emails. Notably the Republicans didn't seem to mind when those two did it.
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Oct 22, 2021 10:56
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Killer robot posted:Notable that the specific "classified information" included things like an excerpt of a NYT article sent to her by a personal friend outside the government. Something that didn't come from a government source, was public knowledge, and would not have been marked as classified even in normal channels, but still counted because of how baroque the system is. Another case was something classified by some other department, but not by State, so if she'd gotten it through internal servers it still wouldn't have come in over classified channels. Then I think some were straight up mislabeled by someone up the chain. Yup it was this. Hillary's only culpability was that she allowed the system to be set up this way, but again Colin Powell used the same setup. The "classified" emails weren't anything super serious, and some were only classified after the fact too That she had personal emails on there and deleted them before handing it over is crappy IT and sus but not illegal and not reason alone to suspect nefarious intent unless you've already decided she's satan
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Oct 22, 2021 11:13
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Killer robot posted:Notable that the specific "classified information" included things like an excerpt of a NYT article sent to her by a personal friend outside the government. Something that didn't come from a government source, was public knowledge, and would not have been marked as classified even in normal channels, but still counted because of how baroque the system is. Another case was something classified by some other department, but not by State, so if she'd gotten it through internal servers it still wouldn't have come in over classified channels. Then I think some were straight up mislabeled by someone up the chain. I never bothered to look up what Hillary actually had, but regardless of whether classified material is public knowledge or not, folk who are cleared are obligated to treat it as classified. Similarly, the original classification authority is wholly irrelevant to how you're supposed to treat classified information. Folk in DoD would treat a top secret State document the same as they'd treat a top secret Defense document. And it would all travel through the appropriate networks as well. TS material goes through TS networks and no other. Also, IIRC, even the use of a personal email server wouldn't be a big offense as long as it was coordinated with officials managing compliance with records laws. V-Men fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Oct 22, 2021 |
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Oct 22, 2021 11:48
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Interesting choice of photo for Trump's boat parade. I seem to remember something else happened to those boats moments later.
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Oct 22, 2021 12:01
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Maybe I'm just lucky/privileged, but the only time in my life I've seen empty shelves like that was at the height of the pandemic. This reminds me of all those ads the Trump campaign was running in 2020 where they just rolled clips of all the crazy poo poo happening under Trump and said that it was totally what Biden's America would look like.
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Oct 22, 2021 14:36
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tek79 posted:Maybe I'm just lucky/privileged, but the only time in my life I've seen empty shelves like that was at the height of the pandemic. This reminds me of all those ads the Trump campaign was running in 2020 where they just rolled clips of all the crazy poo poo happening under Trump and said that it was totally what Biden's America would look like. It was probably taken when they were moving stock around. Grocery stores have a pathologic fear of bare shelves, to the point where they would rather put items that make no sense next to each other rather than have shelves empty. Really half the reason why the shelves were empty during the pandemic was so that the employees could go "no, there's no loving toilet paper, if there was it would be on the shelf, leave me alone"
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Oct 22, 2021 15:10
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CuddleCryptid posted:It was probably taken when they were moving stock around. Grocery stores have a pathologic fear of bare shelves, to the point where they would rather put items that make no sense next to each other rather than have shelves empty. Really half the reason why the shelves were empty during the pandemic was so that the employees could go "no, there's no loving toilet paper, if there was it would be on the shelf, leave me alone" You're telling me grocery employees don't horde everything In The Back for themselves?
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Oct 22, 2021 15:16
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:You're telling me grocery employees don't horde everything In The Back for themselves? With the amount they get paid if they are selling toilet paper out the back door for three times the cost I wouldn't blink too much at that.
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Oct 22, 2021 15:37
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I'm not going to share them, but man, Twitter already has memes about a "gun control nut" (Alec Baldwin) killing someone because he has no training.
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Oct 22, 2021 17:15
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V-Men posted:I never bothered to look up what Hillary actually had, but regardless of whether classified material is public knowledge or not, folk who are cleared are obligated to treat it as classified. Similarly, the original classification authority is wholly irrelevant to how you're supposed to treat classified information. Folk in DoD would treat a top secret State document the same as they'd treat a top secret Defense document. And it would all travel through the appropriate networks as well. TS material goes through TS networks and no other. That's exactly what I'm talking about, yeah. The "classified material" being discussed in both cases was classified in the most technical sense but State Department systems (and doubly so people entirely outside of government) did not know it was classified and had not marked it as classified. This would have been equally true on an internal email server and Clinton had no knowledge of or culpability for the fact. And numerous people experienced with the internals pointed out how common it was, how it was usually treated, and what additional things would have had to happen for it to become a serious disciplinary matter. Funny in retrospect is how much of the last fit in with the clown shows of the Trump administration.
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Oct 22, 2021 17:34
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Medullah posted:I'm not going to share them, but man, Twitter already has memes about a "gun control nut" (Alec Baldwin) killing someone because he has no training. True masters of the
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Oct 22, 2021 18:00
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:You're telling me grocery employees don't horde everything In The Back for themselves? I hated when people asked me that during my cashier days. Like, my dude, I assure you, the only stuff that's in the back is overstock of stuff that's already on the shelves that we don't have any more room for, and seasonal merchandise for whatever holiday it currently isn't, so unless you just HAVE to have a crappy plastic Santa in March, there is nothing in the back that you need.
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Oct 22, 2021 18:20
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the_steve posted:I hated when people asked me that during my cashier days. Like, my dude, I assure you, the only stuff that's in the back is overstock of stuff that's already on the shelves that we don't have any more room for, and seasonal merchandise for whatever holiday it currently isn't, so unless you just HAVE to have a crappy plastic Santa in March, there is nothing in the back that you need. I worked at Best Buy and used to love this. Gave me an excuse to go hang out in the warehouse for 5 minutes and BS with friends. 
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Oct 22, 2021 18:42
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When I worked at Sears in the late 00s we actually had a backroom full of stuff and searching it took 30 minutes because everything was unlabeled and unsorted. The just in time inventory system was completely divorced from what we had in stock. So every time a trick pulled up it would be an odyssey of discovery as they pulled random poo poo out of the truck and shoved it in storage. Sorting it and putting it in the labeled sections took time so naturally they skipped that part because it kept their truck turnaround numbers looking good. Management wouldn't bother correcting the inventory data because changing each item in the database too so much paperwork and time it wasn't worth it unless a customer actually wanted something out of stock but the system wouldn't send more because it thought we had 10 left or whatever. A lot of boomers yelled at me because as a minimum wage employe the Spanish language announcements in the store were my personal decision. I also had boomers get infuriated at what a lazy disrespectful kid I was because I didn't have perfect knowledge of every product in the store nor would I spend 30 minutes as their personal shopping assistant guiding them through which loving mattress pad is the optimum choice for their needs.
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Oct 22, 2021 19:29
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"Don't you know that the Customers Is Always Right?"
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What boomers want and expect out of retail/service employees and what they expect them to be paid/treated like are completely at odds and a couple times I've tried pointing this out it just doesn't register.
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