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There was a huge explosion at a gunpowder factory in Lesnoy village earlier today, seems like at least 16 dead. Article in Russian but with some videos from the scene https://www.mk.ru/incident/2021/10/22/vzryv-na-ryazanskom-zavode-glazami-sotrudnicy-vzryvchatku-razmeshivali-na-kolenke.html Seems pretty bad. But they had a cool retro fire truck 
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Sagebrush posted:Lol who cares. Movies these days literally replace actors' entire bodies and faces with younger, hotter CGI versions as a matter of course. It's trivial to do the same with guns. There is no reason to ever be firing a weapon in the direction of a human on a movie set. You aren’t supposed to point them at the other actors. Blanks can already cause injury at close range from muzzle blast. In Brandon Lee’s death, the actor likewise broke safety protocol and aimed directly at him. Professional jobs use digital effects with unloaded guns or flashpaper guns when they need to point a gun directly at another actor. I’ve worked on films with a $100,000 budget that followed these rules. This isn’t a normal fuckup. This kind of incident is negligence of the highest degree. It’s up there with non-union crews dropping lights on people’s heads or amateur crane operators flipping the machines because they didn’t calculate the load correctly and went on gut instinct.
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Oct 22, 2021 19:21
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Admiral Joeslop posted:https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1451602141018263564?t=I5Hh-b043GQgTkH0aFOcNA&s=19 
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Oct 22, 2021 19:31
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mobby_6kl posted:But they had a cool retro fire truck I do not think that in this scenario that truck is what we in the Western countries would qualify as "retro". Because is it really retro if it never left the service to begin with?
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Oct 22, 2021 19:46
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mobby_6kl posted:There was a huge explosion at a gunpowder factory in Lesnoy village earlier today, seems like at least 16 dead. Article in Russian but with some videos from the scene Is this where they filmed the baseball bat scene in Inglorious Basterds?
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Oct 22, 2021 19:47
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poo poo POST MALONE posted:Is this where they filmed the baseball bat scene in Inglorious Basterds? I doubt the film crew left Germany/France to film a small scene in the middle of Russia.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:00
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Oct 22, 2021 20:03
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Slanderer posted:what are chuds I realise this is probably a joke post but just case it's not: Chud is a common term in online political discourse to refer to people who have an extremely right wing political agenda. Mostly men and mostly Americans. Is effectively synonymous with calling someone a "Trump Supporter".
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Oct 22, 2021 20:08
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The Rust situation seems similar to the person who got shot on the set of a music video a few years ago in Australia. The inquest came out recently and revealed it was a modded sawn off that was never tested before use and wasn't even legally meant to be on set. The blanks had been home made by an employee of the ammo shop, who had no actual qualifications to produce such ammunition, and thus illegally manufactured. Part of the blank then turned into a projectile when fired. They had an armourer who arranged the guns and ammo, but because of the "doing a favour" nature of the agreement it seems safety and checks were skipped over. The armourer wasn't on set to observe, having been told the gun would be fired at the ceiling or not aimed at people and assuming all was fine. This was left to the stunt coordinators, there for the harness stunt, to arrange the loading and use of the weapons. And so tragedy struck.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:08
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yr new gurlfrand! posted:The industry term for this is a whoopsie doopsie I know a couple of people who do theatre that insist on having the 'realism' of a real gun. They are both aware of Brandon Lee and are certain that they're smarter than that production crew.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:09
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nomad2020 posted:I know a couple of people who do theatre that insist on having the 'realism' of a real gun. They are both aware of Brandon Lee and are certain that they're smarter than that production crew. Penn and Teller shot each other every night and were fine.  I don't know how the trick is done, but Penn has said that there is never a loaded gun at any point.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:17
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nomad2020 posted:I know a couple of people who do theatre that insist on having the 'realism' of a real gun. They are both aware of Brandon Lee and are certain that they're smarter than that production crew. I’ve done work with blank guns many times. The only time it was ever pointed directly at another person, even high school theatre, it was from a distance with a gun that had a completely blocked barrel and would just release smoke from a .22 Acorn blank around the cylinder gap. Looks and sounds real, absolutely no danger of anything coming out the front. I once had a local fight coordinator criticize me for testing a blank gun to see if it was a top-fire barrel or only shot out the cylinder gap because I should “just know” which blank gun model did which.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:24
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Ah gently caress me, thanks for the save.
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Captain Fargle posted:I realise this is probably a joke post but just case it's not: Chud is a common term in online political discourse to refer to people who have an extremely right wing political agenda. Mostly men and mostly Americans. Is effectively synonymous with calling someone a "Trump Supporter". I think the OP is stating "what corridor are chuds". All I know is one of them is a big Tesla fanboy.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:26
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Uthor posted:Penn and Teller shot each other every night and were fine. Penn has said that he doesn't believe in doing magic that makes the audience complicit or witness to an actual danger. I think the worst he's probably done was juggling real broken bottles, and he made sure to make it clear to the audience that they were real. He's a Libertarian but he does a lot of good things otherwise.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:29
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Uthor posted:Penn and Teller shot each other every night and were fine. Despite the appearance of some of their tricks, Penn especially absolutely HATES any trick where the magician is putting themselves or others in danger.
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Just going to repost this from another thread:Mushika posted:From someone who works in the industry, this [CGI gunfire on stage/set] would be a very good thing. There is no longer a need for dangerous sets with operating firearms.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:29
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LifeSunDeath posted:thanks for this, I've read up on this place a few times and it's fascinating, never seen video from inside of it. oh man you gotta see Bloodsport
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Oct 22, 2021 20:31
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I used to do WW2 reenacting and before every "battle" there would be a blanks inspection where you had to show the blanks you were using to make sure they weren't sketchy or otherwise obviously unsafe, and before the start everyone would line up and they'd have a safety talk about how dangerous blanks can be and how you needed to be at least 20 or so feet away from someone before you should consider firing rather than just shouting "BANG". One event I went to even took the extra step of shooting a gallon of water from a few feet away to demonstrate that blanks will easily rupture the bottle.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:39
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Neito posted:Despite the appearance of some of their tricks, Penn especially absolutely HATES any trick where the magician is putting themselves or others in danger. Putting Conan in danger is perfectly fine though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIKOcCKFDME
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Oct 22, 2021 20:40
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Getting Stalker just outside the starting village vibes.
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Oct 22, 2021 20:47
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Scratch Monkey posted:I used to do WW2 reenacting and before every "battle" there would be a blanks inspection where you had to show the blanks you were using to make sure they weren't sketchy or otherwise obviously unsafe, and before the start everyone would line up and they'd have a safety talk about how dangerous blanks can be and how you needed to be at least 20 or so feet away from someone before you should consider firing rather than just shouting "BANG". One event I went to even took the extra step of shooting a gallon of water from a few feet away to demonstrate that blanks will easily rupture the bottle. Yeah, in my experience from the armed service with training conscripts we do not give blanks (woodies or even waxheads) unless there is a reason for them. And if we do, the recoil adapter which also ensures that the pressure dissipates relatively safely and blocks the line of fire, goes to the top of the assault rifle before we dish out the ammo, and we test each and every one of them that they are secured properly. And that adapter does not leave the end of the barrel before the gun is disassembled for the end-of-exercise maintenance, well after all is said and done, and the leftovers are collected back. And if it does, well let's say that 'you dear private, are now properly hosed".
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Oct 22, 2021 20:48
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Gushing about good CGI is fine but lots of people also like when they explain how or why bad CGI is bad, and how they would fix it. that's (along with other VFX related things) what captain disillusion's channel is for, it's great
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Oct 22, 2021 20:51
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TRUCKFUCKLING, HO! https://i.imgur.com/poCJE5W.mp4 For a sec I thought he'd make it
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Scratch Monkey posted:TRUCKFUCKLING, HO! of course no seatbelts
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punishedkissinger posted:of course no seatbelts Don't attempt to tie down a truckfuckler.
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Oct 22, 2021 21:09
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Dysgenesis posted:I think the OP is stating "what corridor are chuds". Not anymore, he got rear-ended by another car a couple of weeks ago and questioned why you have to do the time-intense removal of the entire roof to fix whatever damage is in the back of the car, and of course that brought out the usual pro-Elon mob on Twitter and obviously he's now a Tesla hater because he questioned one of Elon's glorious design decisions.
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Mushika posted:Just going to repost this from another thread: I work in it too. There’s well-established protocols to prevent this from happening with blanks, every one of which were broken. The kind of negligence to make this happen is extreme and requires incredible failures at many levels to a criminal degree.
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So, apart from completely distorting the cinematography so that you're looking at the muzzle flash rather than the actor's face, it's great. I am a big ol' fool about historic costuming. When a movie gets it ostentatiously wrong, I snark, but I also realize that the purpose of a movie costume is so that an actor can deliver a performance in it, not to make me coo "Oooh, they got the hat right!"
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Word from insiders is that the director of photography who died was only running the camera herself because the entire camera crew walked off set and resigned the day before, after the weapons safety guy shot himself in the foot with the same gun and also they hadn't been paid for 3 weeksC.M. Kruger posted:Allegedly the propmaster shot himself in the foot the day before and that's part of what triggered the walk-off.
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Oct 23, 2021 00:05
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John Wick uses a lot of CGI because they’re shooting at extremely close range most of the time, so blanks would be really dangerous. Blanks are like using any kind of potentially dangerous equipment anywhere. There’s decades of correct procedure for handling them without any problems. This kind of thing happening isn’t because of the equipment being too dangerous to use. It’s because the people involved did things that are criminally stupid with them.
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shame on an IGA posted:Word from insiders is that the director of photography who died was only running the camera herself because the entire camera crew walked off set and resigned the day before, after the weapons safety guy shot himself in the foot with the same gun and also they hadn't been paid for 3 weeks This is “forklift drivers racing with propane tanks strapped to the sides” kind of negligent.
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chitoryu12 posted:John Wick uses a lot of CGI because they’re shooting at extremely close range most of the time, so blanks would be really dangerous. IIRC John Wick's directors are former stuntmen, so they take safety extremely seriously.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:IIRC John Wick's directors are former stuntmen, so they take safety extremely seriously. And Keanu did a bunch of training before the movies too
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