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Vagabong posted:I can get being cool with Dave's society if you ignore the blurbs and breeze over his scenes, but peoples ability to overlook him merking hundreds of people with Ki Rata purely for his own ego in one of the goriest acts of the comic will always suprise me. They almost had him
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:people are way more dependent on their environment being just so to work than fission is, if multiversal physics were that wacky it'd probably have been a very short, gruesome comic as Allison abruptly teleports into a universe where the weak nuclear force is compassion and air is regret You don't understand what I'm saying. Abaddon has specifically said in response to the technology question that basically all technology fails in the Void anyway (you know, the thing that facilitates multiversal travel) because they rely on their own universe's physical laws to function while the only thing that functions in the Void is the soul flame, which is what the true body and soul is. The soul flame is the only thing that remains constant. If you take a human from our world to one where weak nuclear force is compassion and air is regret they won't explode spontaneously because the only constant is their black soul flame, which imposes that "I am a human being and this is how I function" onto the world. Thus, they will remain a human being because magic and souls literally are imposing your will onto reality no matter how much it bitches otherwise. On the other hand, your fancy internal combustion engine car cannot say "gently caress you I exist anyway" because it's not alive, meaning just bringing it into the Void (the prerequisite to going to another universe) means it disappears into the ether. Abaddon has also said that some demiurges do repress tech but at the same time they wouldn't really care, because they can say "gently caress you" to that anyway. Jadis's is explicitly rules by a technocratic religious government even. EDIT: https://killsixbilliondemons.tumblr.com/post/151384870885/would-a-piece-of-high-technology-instantly-stop quote:Q: Would a piece of high technology instantly stop working in the void, or is it a process that takes time? Would... oh, let's say a bunch of explosives forming a shaped charge around several material lenses designed to focus a shockwave onto a large mass of uranium... be able to work if it went off a millisecond after arriving? https://killsixbilliondemons.tumblr.com/post/151566662935/if-non-living-things-decay-in-the-void-wouldnt quote:Q: If non-living things decay in the void, wouldn't people's clothes eventually fall apart? Sexy side stories ahoy! skaianDestiny fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Oct 22, 2021 |
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wiegieman posted:When Mottom invaded an earth with nukes, she just turned the blast wave into a shower of rose petals or something. There's nothing more real than that kind of power. Hahaha What the gently caress is an Atom My Preem. All Life is Fundamentally Flame. Just Divide Creation. Just Walk Away.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:people are way more dependent on their environment being just so to work than fission is, if multiversal physics were that wacky it'd probably have been a very short, gruesome comic as Allison abruptly teleports into a universe where the weak nuclear force is compassion and air is regret Yeah, you're making a big assumption here: That physics is more fundamental than Atum, the Soul Flame which is the essence of all things. Hell, physicalism is explicitly untrue in this setting. There is a human soul, it can exist apart from a body for a while, and if you're an expert in the Art then you can mold raw reality to create matter and redefine it. Your body is a tool, your soul is you, and the properties of the soul flame are far more important to real cosmic power than any industrial base (as we see in Jagganoth, who could personally kill Earth single-handedly without any regard for any technology we've rolled out. Guns are explicitly a niche weapon because you need to learn special magic to put your soul-energy in them so the bullets can't just be vanished with the Art... and Mottom could still vanish your bullets.) Magic is not an exception to these universes. Magic is the real deal. Technology, material technology, is as likely to run on what seems magical to us as anything else, and that will work in every universe 100% guaranteed. Anyways the reason people are hauling blocks by hand in the scene with the Ring of Power is pretty obviously less because of luddism on Dave's part and more because his military bureaucracy is obsessed with him and being like him. He explicitly showed up and told them 'hey, stop overworking yourselves... I'll just move the block single-handedly myself.' Completely ignoring that the lesson he just taught them is not 'moderation and deference to my rightful authority' but 'I need to overwork myself into the grave while not looking like I'm doing that if I want to live up to the example of Big Imperial Dad.' It's completely hosed but it's not some tech nerd wank about how the terrifying god-tyrants are afraid of construction cranes, it's just more of Solomon David's fundamental problem of trying to run an entire society by being the Perfect Distant Authoritarian Dad, while insisting that if he didn't have such an important job he would definitely play catch with whichever son is worthy of it (none of them).
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It's even more insidious than that, because he's not just saying he would play catch with you if he wasn't so busy, he's saying he's very busy, but he will play catch with you if you work hard enough. Which is kind of like a dad telling his 6 year olds he'll take them to McDonald's if they beat him at basketball.
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a guess of the economics of the k6bd universe: the real limiting factor is not land, labour, or capital, but instead cultivated souls. The returns to enlightenment are so steep that it's far better to subordinate, subsume, or otherwise control partially enlightened souls than it is to conquer another world of billions of mundanes or fantastic material wealth. This is why worlds beyond the frontier like Allison's (i.e. ours) exist at all, and also why bureaucratic power is held in the form of guilds with rigid seniority and hierarchies: anyone with any 'real' power and the ambition to use it goes to jockey with other people up the ladder.
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girl dick energy posted:It's even more insidious than that, because he's not just saying he would play catch with you if he wasn't so busy, he's saying he's very busy, but he will play catch with you if you work hard enough. Which is kind of like a dad telling his 6 year olds he'll take them to McDonald's if they beat him at basketball. Yeah. The thing is, I don't think Solomon Dave is forcing anyone to build a colossal stone structure with their bare hands--and that's almost worse. They're all out there voluntarily breaking their bodies in the hope that Dave-senpai will notice them. Sure some smart guy could come in and build a big fuckoff crane, but that would be a sign of weakness. Nobody wants to give up the chance to look more hardcore than the next guy. Which is a completely pointless endeavor, because inevitably Solomon Dave will decide that the correct display of enlightenment is something else. He impassively watches his subjects grind themselves into dust trying to emulate and impress him not because he hopes they will succeed in following his example but because he knows they will fail.
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skaianDestiny posted:You don't understand what I'm saying. Abaddon has specifically said in response to the technology question that basically all technology fails in the Void anyway (you know, the thing that facilitates multiversal travel) because they rely on their own universe's physical laws to function while the only thing that functions in the Void is the soul flame, which is what the true body and soul is. It disappears in the void but it lasts a little while if you move it between gates fast enough. Spirit flame and ego are the basic fundamental truth of the universe while physics and everything are the excuses laid on top of it, but I don't think atoms and the basics of mechanics are necessarily inconsistent enough on all the worlds to make technology not really function on worlds besides where it was created. Like, we know that Jagganoth has been developing war technologies and stuff, and there's things like television in Throne, so there must be some basic commonalities that make it worth creating that stuff and make them sharable between worlds. It's just that it gets blown away by stuff like the true arts, which is even more 'real', and also wide-scale technological development often requires a certain society-scale cooperative advancement that doesn't tend to happen in this setting. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Oct 22, 2021 |
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paranoid randroid posted:Hahaha What the gently caress is an Atom My Preem. All Life is Fundamentally Flame. Just Divide Creation. Just Walk Away.
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standard.deviant posted:an atom is that which cannot be cut, and when cut rewards the cutter with violence If you cannot envision Cutting a single precisely-chosen atom perfectly in two with but a slice of your hand, you can never attain Royalty.
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the holy poopacy posted:Which is a completely pointless endeavor, because inevitably Solomon Dave will decide that the correct display of enlightenment is something else. He impassively watches his subjects grind themselves into dust trying to emulate and impress him not because he hopes they will succeed in following his example but because he knows they will fail. Basically, he's an objectivist, and he doesn't want to rule so much as he needs to rule to prop up his self-image. And now that's all falling apart. Edit: This is also why I'm leaning so hard towards the "WC gets Solomon's key" theory, because by nearly matching him, she has, in practical terms, definitively exceeded him. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Oct 22, 2021 |
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Oct 22, 2021 20:59
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Well David has made his decision of what to do.
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RIP to the hog. edit: this guy knew what was up https://twitter.com/mikerayhawk/status/1357729805924466692
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FORIBBDEN TEMPLE ART
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Well that sure is a lot of dragon ball attacks directly to his dick all right.
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Dude is pissed.
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perhaps royalty is making noodles with the same hand that you used to castrate GodOhFunny posted:Dude is pissed. and panicking
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PUNCH HIM IN THE BALLS
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Talk about smashing pissers
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Did he dickpunch Jags through dimensions straight to Throne?
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so anime i read the attack name right to left and was very confused
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I think he punched him so hard they’re in the Void now? Edit: Oh that would explain why he hasn’t used internet his technique previously. It’s strongly implied to be a suicide attack.
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I'm so poisoned from the internet I read that last phrase on the right as "Slayer of Salami" and started giggling.
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https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1451659146453979143?s=20
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I am loving the punchmans sfx
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Scallop Eyes posted:Did he dickpunch Jags through dimensions straight to Throne? Yeah back to where he came from when he sworded in to Rayuba It’ll probably close behind them to end the fight
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Victis posted:Yeah back to where he came from when he sworded in to Rayuba so much for the jaggahog and yeah I figured this would be one possibility for how Jagganoth doesn't kill everybody yet
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rannum posted:so anime i read the attack name right to left and was very confused same
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this palooka had seriously deluded himself into thinking some random tournament-goer could take him in a fight
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Lmfao at Incubus being totally hyped for his glorious last stand and getting a front row seat to the fact that he's just as out of his depth as Allison is there.
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POW! Ha ha!
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sirtommygunn posted:Lmfao at Incubus being totally hyped for his glorious last stand and getting a front row seat to the fact that he's just as out of his depth as Allison is there. Incubus is so desperate to have his epic moment and someone keeps on barging in front of him just as he's got it all lined up, it's incredible
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rannum posted:so anime i read the attack name right to left and was very confused same
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Captain Oblivious posted:I think he punched him so hard they’re in the Void now? of course it’s a suicide attack he’s punching jagganoth
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rannum posted:so anime i read the attack name right to left and was very confused  Dave whips out the most anime punchman of limit breaks, Destroy Myself To Punch Harder. Unfortunately for him that move never actually defeats the other guy, but punching Jagg into another dimension will probably buy Allison and Cio some time to run away.
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* smiling proudly, wiping away a single tear * That was a dick move, Paternum. A real dick move.
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If you could always million punch a guy in the dick why not open with that.
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