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Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
man, i guess that defector pussy hit different

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Jan 4, 2021

is that a tower in your pants or are you just happy to see me
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Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007
What always gets me about this poo poo is the fact the we're expected to think that these people are talking about Xinjiang because they care about the oppression of a Muslim minority.

Probably just a coincidence that you don't hear a lot about India in this context. I suppose everything was smooth sailing when Narendra Modi was Chief Minister of Gujarat.



quote:

During the riots, Modi said that "What is happening is a chain of action and reaction." Later in 2002, Modi said the way in which he had handled the media was his only regret regarding the episode.

Just wait until Bellingcat and Adrian Zenz hears about this!

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/karmanomad/status/1451694963306033152

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/PMCroninHudson/status/1451531352185184308

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Agrajag posted:

white liberals, ugh

https://twitter.com/truther_justice/status/1450118693502005252?s=20

edit: nvm i dont know wtf this guy is saying he is



This dude goes on to talk about how international finance backed the Bolsheviks against the Tzar.

A big dumb.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

uhhhh when did Japan start using the rising sun flags again

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Japan is going to war against the KMT again

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Maximo Roboto posted:

The same KMT carpetbaggers that Beijing is eagerly courting just because they happen to be pro-reunification, politics makes strange bedfellows

at this point, they'll take what they can get

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Raskolnikov38 posted:

uhhhh when did Japan start using the rising sun flags again

what the actual gently caress

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003

Raskolnikov38 posted:

uhhhh when did Japan start using the rising sun flags again

6/30-7/1/1954. Ground added a gold fringe (lol) and halved the rays, maritime just made the red brigher, both were a done deal at the very moment the US officially approved an SDF out of the Korea-era paramilitary police.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
KMT should have disbanded themselves after 2020.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

stephenthinkpad posted:

KMT should have disbanded themselves after 2020 1949.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Raskolnikov38 posted:

uhhhh when did Japan start using the rising sun flags again

The Rising Sun Flag was readopted as the war flag and naval ensign of Japan's Self-Defense Force on June 30, 1954. The day said force was founded.

It's never been Japan's national flag if that's what you thought.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

stephenthinkpad posted:

Hypersonic sub orbital tourism, crewed by the oldest crazy Chinese actor. Jackie Chan

I'd watch this movie with the zero gravity fight against space ninjas

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I'd watch this movie with the zero gravity fight against space ninjas

Warframes are good guys though

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
it’s cool when Japan can just show up with a rising flag again like nothing happened the last time they waved that around thanks america

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

OhFunny posted:

The Rising Sun Flag was readopted as the war flag and naval ensign of Japan's Self-Defense Force on June 30, 1954. The day said force was founded.

It's never been Japan's national flag if that's what you thought.

this isn't really a shot at you, forums user OhFunny, but "actually, it's the naval ensign" seems like a cop-out on the scale of waving the Stars and Bars and claiming that "actually, it's the Battle flag, not the national flag"

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


gradenko_2000 posted:

this isn't really a shot at you, forums user OhFunny, but "actually, it's the naval ensign" seems like a cop-out on the scale of waving the Stars and Bars and claiming that "actually, it's the Battle flag, not the national flag"

yeah that nuance is not something that a lot of Chinese people (and Korean and Indonesian and Filipino and Indian and so on and on and on) are going to care about when seeing that one

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Now picturing 2001: A Space Odyssey but with Jackie Chan


dead gay comedy forums posted:

yeah that nuance is not something that a lot of Chinese people (and Korean and Indonesian and Filipino and Indian and so on and on and on) are going to care about when seeing that one

Yyyyep. In some ways worse than the swastika, possibly.

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

it’s important to preserve your military heritage, just look at the flag of the Finnish Air Force Academy

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Comrade Koba posted:

it’s important to preserve your military heritage, just look at the flag of the Finnish Air Force Academy

you loving kidding me

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

dead gay comedy forums posted:

you loving kidding me

it does predate the nazis entirely at least

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

lol

https://www.mofa.go.jp/mofaj/files/000481576.pdf



Well Americans used it too

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1451775460195684355?s=20

Cool

quote:

Duties include conducting foreign policy, for officials in Yunnan must talk to Vietnamese counterparts about exchanges of students or travel permits for ethnic minorities whose lands straddle the frontier. Both sides regularly clear landmines from border areas—a lethal legacy of China’s brief invasion of Vietnam in 1979, which still costs locals limbs.

Does the writer know that China and Vietnam had a low intensity conflict for years after the 1979 invasion? Landmines aren't really used in invasions, but are used in border skirmishes.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011



paywalled :(

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Atrocious Joe posted:

Does the writer know that China and Vietnam had a low intensity conflict for years after the 1979 invasion? Landmines aren't really used in invasions, but are used in border skirmishes.

*me, placing the 10,000th landmine on the border with vietnam* Finally! Now, time to invade.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

gradenko_2000 posted:

this isn't really a shot at you, forums user OhFunny, but "actually, it's the naval ensign" seems like a cop-out on the scale of waving the Stars and Bars and claiming that "actually, it's the Battle flag, not the national flag"

I was simply stating that the Rising Sun flag was never replaced by the national flag or ever discontinued from use by the Japanese military.

The prior posts from shocked goons gave me the impression that they thought that was the case and that its appearance is some recent development.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


OhFunny posted:

The prior posts from shocked goons gave me the impression that they thought that was the case and that its appearance is some recent development.

you are correct and nevertheless that poo poo is holy poo poo baffling

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

doesn’t the german military still use the iron cross on everything. granted that’s not close to as bad as the rising sun flag but having iron crosses everywhere feels weird (I know they were pre nazi but still)

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

just learned that they are still using this flag too


what the gently caress.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Atrocious Joe posted:

just learned that they are still using this flag too


what the gently caress.

brexit is working on that one, cross by cross

st patrick first then st andrew might get emboldened for real this time

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Al-Saqr posted:

it’s cool when Japan can just show up with a rising flag again like nothing happened the last time they waved that around thanks america

you're conflating a meaning to this normal japanese ppl don't feel, at least in my experience.

normal japanese ppl feel a sense of revulsion seeing that flag and confer it to the defense force, at least in my very limited experience speaking to japanese people about it.

japan, popularly speaking at least, is one of the most pacifistic countries in the world, even if their leadership resent and oppose it.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/PhilstarNews/status/1451819378656247811

quote:

Socialist coalition Laban ng Masa, which is backing presidential aspirant and labor leader Leody de Guzman and his running mate Walden Bello, presented Saturday a 13-point platform consisting of ambitious economic, political and social reforms that would mostly need congressional approval.

LNM’s priorities should De Guzman and Bello get elected are narrowed down to "TKO" — trabaho (jobs), kalusugan (health) and oportunidad (opportunities).

Under its platform for jobs, LNM wants to:

Increase the minimum wage to P750 across the country [note: from what is currently approx. 500 PHP per day]
Provide unemployment benefits to all displaced workers
Implement a mass public employment program
Put an end to contractualization by closing down all manpower agencies
Place price controls on oil, electricity, internet, water, farm inputs and other basic commodities.

For health, LNM is pushing for:

A pro-people, medically-informed and demilitarized response to the pandemic
Aid, vaccines, protection for all, including paid leaves and compensation for those who get COVID-19 or have to go on quarantine
Increased wages and benefits for healthcare workers
Free quality healthcare for all
Support for women’s reproductive self-determination and the decriminalization of abortion

LNM is also pressing for the following:

Reversal the privatization of public services by refunding and building more and better public schools, hospitals, parks, libraries, day-care centers, evacuation centers and other social assistance centers
Imposition of wealth tax on the country’s richest 250 families
Uphold marriage equality and support alternative family arrangements
Repealing value-added tax and the Tax Reform for Acceleration and Inclusion Act in favor of a “more progressive” tax system
Prosecution of President Rodrigo Duterte and his supposed cronies
Repealing the Anti-Terrorism Act
Disbanding Duterte’s controversial anti-communist task force
Resumption of peace talks with communist rebels
Ending persecution of media outlets
Reviewing all history books and counter historical revisionism in all schools
Exhumation of the body of the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos from the Libingan ng mga Bayani

Many of their proposals would require changing existing laws, which would also mean having to go through a Congress dominated by political elites.

Increasing the minimum wage nationwide and ending contractualization are just some of LNM's programs that would have to go through the legislative mill before being enacted.

Some of their programs, like decrminalizing abortion and supporting same-sex marriage, would also likely face stiff opposition in a country where the Catholic Church’s influence still holds sway.

Bello acknowledged that it would be difficult to enact all these reforms without the support of the majority.

"Leody and I … offer a tough program of real reform that cannot succeed unless most of our people rally behind it to defy the rich and the powerful that will lose because of it," he said.

De Guzman said that they will campaign in Congress to get legislative approval on their platforms, but if they still encounter dissent, they would turn to the mass movement to force the hands of lawmakers into approving their proposals.

"(If that will happen and we can explain further to people in Congress who are initially reluctant, I think they will not be able to face their constituents and they will be forced to follow and support our proposals for the betterment of Filipinos),” he said.

There's a slight bit of media bias already creeping into this when they say that this program would require Congressional approval (which presumably would NOT be given), but by my count anywhere from a quarter to about half of these points could be achieved by Executive fiat

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Stringent posted:

you're conflating a meaning to this normal japanese ppl don't feel, at least in my experience.

normal japanese ppl feel a sense of revulsion seeing that flag and confer it to the defense force, at least in my very limited experience speaking to japanese people about it.

japan, popularly speaking at least, is one of the most pacifistic countries in the world, even if their leadership resent and oppose it.

Pretty much the entire cultural memory of the country iirc is the delusional and idiotic ruling class using force and lies to drag them into a hopeless war that destroyed an entire generation and left the country a series of smoking, sometimes radioactive craters. Unfortunately, the ruling class hasn't gotten any less delusional and idiotic, and their democracy is pretty much a one-party state with a token useless opposition. There's apparently regular attempts to beef up the SDF into a real military rather than kayfabe and/or to get nukes, and every time there's massive popular outcry of 'gently caress no'.

Unfortunately like a lot of things it's uncertain how much that's actually going to matter when the people in charge decide to do what they want to do.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
Yeah but how are they gonna recruit grunts if the idea of the military is widely unpopular.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Pretty much the entire cultural memory of the country iirc is the delusional and idiotic ruling class using force and lies to drag them into a hopeless war that destroyed an entire generation and left the country a series of smoking, sometimes radioactive craters. Unfortunately, the ruling class hasn't gotten any less delusional and idiotic, and their democracy is pretty much a one-party state with a token useless opposition. There's apparently regular attempts to beef up the SDF into a real military rather than kayfabe and/or to get nukes, and every time there's massive popular outcry of 'gently caress no'.

Unfortunately like a lot of things it's uncertain how much that's actually going to matter when the people in charge decide to do what they want to do.

i live in japan so i can tell you in no uncertain terms that if a draft was instituted or even action against china in solidarity with the US considered the popular opposition would be sufficient to stop it.

i can't emphasize this enough.

eta: i've lived here for a long time so i don't think i'm talking out of my rear end but am welcome to correction. i obviously don't speak for the people of japan this is just my impression.

Stringent has issued a correction as of 14:04 on Oct 23, 2021

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

https://twitter.com/next_china/status/1451896825221365764?s=21

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

uhhhh

wtf thats literally the flag they flew while committing war crimes all over asia

talking about china bad while backed by the loving flag you flew while doing a loving genocide in nanjing is real turbo hosed

Agrajag has issued a correction as of 14:30 on Oct 23, 2021

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May 8, 2012

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Agrajag posted:

uhhhh

wtf thats literally the flag they flew while committing war crimes all over asia

talking about china bad while backed by the loving flag you flew while doing a loving genocide in nanjing is real turbo hosed

I wouldn't read too much into it. Geopolitical posturing is all noise until the time when it comes to put the actual money on the line

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