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I love Krush for how quick he munches through the low level bounty grind. Very action efficient. Managed a 3 turn heroic air elemental bounty, imagine 2 might be possible if you got perfect boon/treasure RNG to one round the boss ( after the1 round battle 1, boon then blue portal mystery spot opener)
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NorgLyle posted:Rokara's 3rd task is also misnamed but, like all the 3rd tasks, works just fine if you just use the level 15 ability a bunch.
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Oct 21, 2021 20:25
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Yeah some of them are easy to cheese (damage => buffs/crits) and some of them complete themselves because they don't require that hero to do anything (do a bounty) and then others are like yeah use this Cooldown (3) ability 10 times. Or activate this deathblow condition a bunch.
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Oct 21, 2021 20:33
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LMAO just Mutanus'd my first quest reward.
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Oct 22, 2021 17:58
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Boatswain posted:LMAO just Mutanus'd my first quest reward. nice! I gave up on that dream, but playing fel or deathrattle DH I do have access to a bunch of Illidari studies so I have managed to glide or Stelina a bunch of them away over the last month. You can tell a good player from a bad player if they complete the quest without enough mana to play the reward on the same turn.
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Oct 22, 2021 21:34
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Starsfan posted:You can tell a good player from a bad player if they complete the quest without enough mana to play the reward on the same turn. Or in the case of priest, you can tell by the fact they are playing the quest.
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Oct 22, 2021 21:46
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 RIP Air Elemental farm. Guess we'll need to find out which level 30 mission has the fastest mystery spot now
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Oct 23, 2021 01:38
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Varden's task 9 is dumb as bricks (deal damage with Ice Lance), which means you have to have another way to freeze enemies in your party, which are one of two legendaries (Jaina and Lich King). I've had to abandon it 3 times now.
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Oct 23, 2021 01:52
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RatHat posted:RIP Air Elemental farm. Guess we'll need to find out which level 30 mission has the fastest mystery spot now After using 3 or 6 PVP games for level 1 mercs, I've been doing High Justice Grimstone (2nd in Blackrock) to get under level'd mercs to 30 for their tasks. The 2 tokens are great (Varden + Cairne) and the boss is beatable with Cariel + Samuro + Xyrella/other
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Oct 23, 2021 02:02
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RatHat posted:
Most mercenaries want their 7 task item, and the best/fastest way was to spam an easy map where you had the chance to get a task, for maybe the merc you want. This looked like a lovely way to play the game and Blizzard didn't like it so now...they're making it harder and more time consuming. They could change it to maybe not take 7 tasks? Maybe?
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Oct 23, 2021 02:03
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AnacondaHL posted:After using 3 or 6 PVP games for level 1 mercs, I've been doing High Justice Grimstone (2nd in Blackrock) to get under level'd mercs to 30 for their tasks. The 2 tokens are great (Varden + Cairne) and the boss is beatable with Cariel + Samuro + Xyrella/other I used the final boss of Felwood(on Heroic) for leveling since he's weak to Holy and Xyrella/Anduin/Velen can easily kill him(or Uther if you have him).
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Oct 23, 2021 02:31
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I find the mercenaries PvE mode EXTREMELY mundane and grindy. Like its just nothing to it yet even at my 6k mmr im against players using meta teams with maxed out skills. I need to repeat the pve for a few hours to not lose in pvp I guess. Yeah gently caress that.
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Oct 23, 2021 03:23
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I've already gotten frustrated with the grinding in mercenaries mode. I want to go play pvp but I can't ever win because I don't have good characters to 30 and grinding coins is absolutely miserable. Like my xyrella just has tier 2 of the first ability that makes her so good and everyone I play has it maxed out and I just can't loving compete. I don't have 20 hours to just grind endlessly to get specifically xyrella coins and level up a full comp in PvE just to start to compete in PvP. It doesn't help that the pve is incredibly dull. PvP is the whole point of this game but you can't actually get any significant number of coins just off PvP so you gotta grind the lovely pve to get there. Is there a guide or way to effectively get coins in PvP I just haven't seen?
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Oct 23, 2021 04:33
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Having the equipment items that most characters need to function locked behind Task 7 is the whole reason everyone was grinding the Air Elemental. It's not like anybody actually enjoyed brainlessly clicking through the fights and then retiring again and again (while accumulating 3k+ coins for maxed out freebie characters). I think my real concern with the nerf is that there are people who have been grinding since the day of release on the most efficient path and they have now set themselves up as a permanent tier above anyone that wasn't doing that for whatever reason (not having 16 hours a day to play Hearthstone like some kind of casual, for example). As said, in PvP there are already a large population of people who have maxed out the tier 1 teams and if you haven't done that yet good luck catching up. There's no amount of packs you can buy that will unlock Frostmourne. What was this change supposed to do?
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Oct 23, 2021 04:58
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The equipment unlocks are hilariously stupid. They should have been like, reach level 10/20/30
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NorgLyle posted:Having the equipment items that most characters need to function locked behind Task 7 is the whole reason everyone was grinding the Air Elemental. It's not like anybody actually enjoyed brainlessly clicking through the fights and then retiring again and again (while accumulating 3k+ coins for maxed out freebie characters). Make the grind harder to incentivise pack buying for coins over PvE
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Oct 23, 2021 07:26
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Sounds like I made a good decision in passing entirely on Mercenaries. 
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Oct 23, 2021 07:31
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Don't worry, if you do the 4 tasks each day you'll have every characters' tasks maxed out in 229.5 days! It wouldn't be so bad if you could choose which tasks you get each day
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Oct 23, 2021 07:51
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I played a few hours of mercs last weekend and don't see a reason to go back. Apart from the gameplay and grind being pretty dull, I found the interface awful as a mobile player. Moving back to normal Hearthstone it was a real noticeable difference how much easier card / action selection is.
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Oct 23, 2021 08:56
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RatHat posted:
I guess how much this will suck really depends on how they “adjusted” the appearance rate. If it means that doing level 30 bounties with a lvl 30 group almost always gives you a mysterious stranger, it’s ok, I think. If they left that rate as it is, it will be really bad. Winterspring/Blackrock bounties are long enough, and it feels really lovely getting a spud or blue portal right before the boss.
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Oct 23, 2021 09:35
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AnacondaHL posted:Varden's task 9 is dumb as bricks (deal damage with Ice Lance), which means you have to have another way to freeze enemies in your party, which are one of two legendaries (Jaina and Lich King). I've had to abandon it 3 times now. Do one of the air elemental bounties, normal or heroic, and have a fast attacker, a healer and varden. Attack into an ice elemental thingy that freezes your attacker, varden ice lances your attacker, and the healer keeps everyone, including the enemy, healed up.
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Oct 23, 2021 10:53
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Supposedly the last Felwood normal fight is decent for farming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8mkYQzlnS0
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Oct 23, 2021 13:05
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RatHat posted:I used the final boss of Felwood(on Heroic) for leveling since he's weak to Holy and Xyrella/Anduin/Velen can easily kill him(or Uther if you have him). Tezzeract posted:Supposedly the last Felwood normal fight is decent for farming Yea, I happen to have opened Uther, so this works for me as new go-to for getting tasks and leveling mercs to 30.
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Oct 23, 2021 14:45
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Tezzeract posted:Supposedly the last Felwood normal fight is decent for farming I think I’ll wait until more testing is done because I ran this 5 times and got 0 strangers. Might just be bad luck but I’m not gonna waste my time to find out
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RatHat posted:I think I’ll wait until more testing is done because I ran this 5 times and got 0 strangers. Might just be bad luck but I’m not gonna waste my time to find out Yeah I whiffed too. I think for a higher chance, Wintergrasp has all level 30s and I seemed to get Mysterious Strangers again. It seems like the dev's intended way to pay is to target farm bosses and get specific characters - tasks are secondary.
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Oct 23, 2021 16:40
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They need to fix tasks. The way they have them implemented is just crazy and leads to dumb game play. The current fix won't be enough I don't think to make them work the way the game should. I trust them to do it though. Just think of where HS was two-three years ago and where it is now. It might take a year or so before Mercenaries is really right, but I think they'll get there. It still may not be for everyone but right now it's got too many gotcha's and kinks. It'll always be a grind, but so is HS so that shouldn't be an issue in my opinion.
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Mayveena posted:They need to fix tasks. The way they have them implemented is just crazy and leads to dumb game play. The current fix won't be enough I don't think to make them work the way the game should. I trust them to do it though. Just think of where HS was two-three years ago and where it is now. It might take a year or so before Mercenaries is really right, but I think they'll get there. It still may not be for everyone but right now it's got too many gotcha's and kinks. It'll always be a grind, but so is HS so that shouldn't be an issue in my opinion. I liked a suggestion I saw on Reddit where the mysterious stranger would move between missions(and you can see where it is) in exchange for being a 100% chance. It’d make it better for task farming and make farming less boring
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yo p sure this was stealth nerfed already and the mysterious challenger is spawning only near the top end of the map now 
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As quest priest I completed the quest and had the OTK combo on turn 9 (but unable to play it until turn 10). My opponent was able to kill off their 7th Elwyn Boar that same turn. Getting out-memed hurts so much worse than every other pre-determined obliteration this meta has to offer. WHERE THE gently caress IS THE MINI-SET YOU HACKS
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Reminder that MT Stormwind drops are live this weekend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDj9h2T_z20
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So, if they want players to do “more engaging gameplay” they probably should make the rewards worth it. In my last three (normal) Ragnaros bounties, I’ve gotten only one mysterious stranger, and the coin rewards for the last one were: 45 Rathorian, 15 Gruul (who isn’t even one of the listed mercs for this bounty, and he wasn’t in my party, either) and 10 Vol’jin (who actually was in my party). The rewards for the previous runs were about the same. That’s really bad for something that takes 30 minutes+ and supposedly is the top end of normal content. And from what I’ve seen so far, the rewards for heroics aren’t substantially better than for normal, either. E: At least heroic seems to give somewhat better rewards, I got 50x Rathorian, 25 Mukla, 15 Anacondra, and 20 Lich King from heroic Rag. MuLepton fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Oct 24, 2021 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Sounds like I made a good decision in passing entirely on Mercenaries. for real, holy poo poo no game mode has turned me off Hearthstone quicker
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Oct 24, 2021 16:17
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I like it to waste 10 minutes on my phone every now and then but that's about it.
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Chernabog posted:I like it to waste 10 minutes on my phone every now and then but that's about it. The PVE farming is pretty fun in a "do the task list" kind of way. But Mercs is a weird game mode to add to Hearthstone. I can see the game going the Marvel Puzzle Quest route of lots of PVP/PVE events with brand new gachas for the chase. And preorder bundles for new chase Mercs for the whales.
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Mercenaries mode is currently less than the sum of its parts but I still think it has a lot of potential if they add a lot more PvE content. I haven't really been tempted to PvP yet because I've watched some streams of it and apart from the really narrow meta I can't get over the fact that winning or losing comes down to a coinflip way too often. I mean, sure, that happens in the card game sometimes too, but in Mercs you're dealing with 100% known information at all times. How do other gachas handle this? I've never tried any but I have the impression they have a few more mechanics or systems than what's currently in Mercs.
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I'm not interested in Mercenaries, I don't like Battlegrounds, and I'm bored with Standard so I decided to play Wild for the first time. Odd Questline Hunter is disgusting, at least at the rank where I am. I'm not a good player, but I just ticked off the 12 wins in a row achievement. The only game I lost was the first one I queued. I conceded when I realized that I accidentally stuck a 0 mana spell in so Baku didn't proc, ie before any cards were played. Cant wait for the miniset.
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fanny packrat posted:I'm not interested in Mercenaries, I don't like Battlegrounds, and I'm bored with Standard so I decided to play Wild for the first time. Welcome to wild, where the most fun gameplay is! The best part of wild is there's a zillion tier 2 decks you can ladder with to diamond 5 easily every month just based on a 55% winrate.
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