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a neat cape posted:They absolutely do. Allen didn't get Mahomes money That's because Allen is a sweetie and in my eyes a being of pure light. You can't exactly expect Baker Mayfield to underestimate his perceived value contract wise.
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I know the cap is crap and you can do crazy things like what the Saints did for years and what the Bucs are now doing to maximize the last years of a HoF QB’s career but who cares when the bill comes due you’re gonna suck anyway. But next year Mahomes cap hit explodes and I feel like that’s gonna be a bit of an issue.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:18 |
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Man Bradys cap hit remains under 30mil lol
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:26 |
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i heard mahomes cap hit is 69 thousand dollers!
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Man Bradys cap hit remains under 30mil lol Team first, pro union. Truly a class act on top of being the best to ever do it.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I know the cap is crap and you can do crazy things like what the Saints did for years and what the Bucs are now doing to maximize the last years of a HoF QB’s career but who cares when the bill comes due you’re gonna suck anyway. But next year Mahomes cap hit explodes and I feel like that’s gonna be a bit of an issue. His cap hit next year is 35 million which isn’t that bad, comparatively. 2023 is when it gets over 40 but Dak and Wilson are right there with him. Cap is estimated to be 208 million for 2022 and probably go up again in 2023 so I’m sure those teams will manage fine.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:31 |
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The Rams have 33 million in cap space dedicated to Todd Gurley and Jared Goff this year. The cap isn’t real. It can’t hurt you.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:32 |
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The cap should be destroyed
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:36 |
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a neat cape posted:They absolutely do. Allen didn't get Mahomes money Allen ain’t Mahomes. And he doesn’t have a SB ring. Even though Baker is a tier below Dak, he’ll get almost Dak-money. And the Browns don’t have a choice.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:44 |
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Maybe if the first halfway decent quarterback you've had in 30 years also is willing to play basically without a left shoulder to get your franchise some wins you should show just a touch more loyalty, Browns fans.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:46 |
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Baker: tie my left arm to my chest and I can catch the ball one handed from shotgun. Browns fans: He's no David Carr I tell you whutt.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:48 |
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happy noodle boy was also willing to go out there in order to get the franchise some wins iirc
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:50 |
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I like my qb1 to have working labrums
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 03:53 |
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*coughing up blood* "tell... Tell Cleveland I did my best." "Yeah haha funny story Baker. Let's try gutekunst.b@packers.com..."
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 04:17 |
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The fun thing is seeing how the Cardinals are doing since they immediately cut bait with Rosen & lucked out with Murray. The bigger question is if Cleveland will do the same if they ultimately think Baker can't get them over the hump (and I think he can). Whatever you do, don't look at this year's QB draft class.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 04:50 |
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It's going to be funny seeing like seven teams convince themselves they can get Aaron Rodgers and then watch him stay with Green Bay.
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Android Apocalypse posted:The fun thing is seeing how the Cardinals are doing since they immediately cut bait with Rosen & lucked out with Murray. The bigger question is if Cleveland will do the same if they ultimately think Baker can't get them over the hump (and I think he can). Cards only cut bait because they had the first pick. If they were picking in the Daniel Jones range they'd likely have just brought Rosen back. Similar to how the Rams stuck with Goff.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 05:28 |
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DariusLikewise posted:The Rams have 33 million in cap space dedicated to Todd Gurley and Jared Goff this year. The cap isn’t real. It can’t hurt you. I mean, the cap is absolutely real, it just matters less if you actually have a good GM who can draft well and successfully manage free agent contracts—which the Rams do. On the other end of the spectrum, the Lions are sitting in absolute cap hell, paying $57 million dollars to players who are no longer on the team, and that's before you get into the truly horrendous Trey Flowers and Halapoulivaati Vaitai contracts.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 06:12 |
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I think like 4 years/$160m is a reasonable compromise between Baker and the Browns - not the highest paid but it hits that $40m per year line that Baker probably thinks he deserves. Face saving for both sidesSimplex posted:Are you still going to have all that talent once you are paying Baker $30M/year? think they would do this in a heartbeat AndrewP fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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My bad, I thought Allen's deal was $30M that balloons at the end with money he'll never see, but his cap hit is 40 starting in 2023. So my point about Baker still stands, just $40 million not $30 million.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 07:15 |
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I mean, Baker at best would be the 3rd best QB in his own division and might very well end up being the worst if Rodgers ends up getting traded to the Steelers in the offseason. The AFC as a whole already has a disproportionately higher number of good QBs versus the NFC so it's also harder overall to even get a WC spot. It feels like with all the endorsements & commercials he has and all the superior QBs he has to compete against in his conference he might be willing to take a bit of a more team friendly deal to keep a more elite roster around him.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 09:01 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:If we have learned anything it’s that the cap is only real if your terribly incompotent. This baffles me because the Ravens are by far one of the most competent organizations in the NFL all around but every year they absolutely have lots of cap woes
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 15:11 |
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In training camp, there were "rumors" from Bakers camp that he wasn't necessarily looking to be at the top of the market with a super long deal like Allen. So I think a 4 year, $40 per deal is absolutely on the table.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 15:51 |
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Mystic Stylez posted:This baffles me because the Ravens are by far one of the most competent organizations in the NFL all around but every year they absolutely have lots of cap woes I think the Ravens are just less likely to do some of the voodoo accounting to mess with the cap number because it always comes due eventually. They are OK with being a little less flexible in the immediate term because it means they aren’t screwed in the long term.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 16:37 |
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Honestly, I think it's stubborn refusal to ever have a proper rebuilding year. Ravens like to be "in the mix" every year. Figure as long as you can make the playoffs you have a chance of winning it all. I suppose both the team's Superbowl runs sort of prove that out.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Honestly, I think it's stubborn refusal to ever have a proper rebuilding year. Ravens like to be "in the mix" every year. Figure as long as you can make the playoffs you have a chance of winning it all. I suppose both the team's Superbowl runs sort of prove that out. Always Be Winning, though
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I wonder what the odds are Sammy Watkins plays again this season
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 17:36 |
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100%. Start for the first few weeks, take about 8 off for injury, then back in time for the home stretch and playoffs. This is how Watkins works.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 17:38 |
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The Chiefs don't win that Super Bowl without Playoff Watkins
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Mystic Stylez posted:The Chiefs don't win that Super Bowl without Playoff Watkins Playoff Frank Clark too but that doesn't mean either of these players can be counted on
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 17:45 |
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I’ve noticed when Myles Garrett holds players only defense meetings they show up big the following game.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 17:56 |
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Watkins held down the fort while Bateman was hurt. I'm guessing we will see him back after the bye.
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Mystic Stylez posted:The Chiefs don't win that Super Bowl without Playoff Watkins It’s true and losing Hunt in late 2018 and Watkins last year are the reasons for why their offense has become far less dynamic.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 18:26 |
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Freaquency posted:I think the Ravens are just less likely to do some of the voodoo accounting to mess with the cap number because it always comes due eventually. They are OK with being a little less flexible in the immediate term because it means they aren’t screwed in the long term. They may come due someday but Jesus the Saints have been at it for a decade? And that’s an eternity in sports
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 18:30 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s true and losing Hunt in late 2018 and Watkins last year are the reasons for why their offense has become far less dynamic. No it's the way defenses play against Mahomes now
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 18:39 |
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Lots of panthers fans are excited they’re finally getting to see Christensen start at LT. https://twitter.com/daringantt/status/1451966206588690438?s=21 This is going to be an ugly game.
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 18:45 |
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Last time we had a true rebuild year was 2002.
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https://twitter.com/MartysaurusRex/status/1451961982391816202
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# ? Oct 23, 2021 19:16 |
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Is this the background for why he basically shot his way out of Green Bay in 2017? It was so cool that he rejoined the Pats because of that situation but unfortunately he then got actually injured in a game immediately.
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I mean if he is looking for understanding New England would be a bizarre choice
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