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C.M. Kruger posted:On the other hand (and even with the previous NDs) if she'd left with the other strikers it's easy to see the remaining production crew going "how hard could it be? hey any of you scabs know how to shoot? you're the armorer now." Well, the crew apparently left because there was, aside from the lack of pay, a third accidental gun discharge the day before where the armorer shot herself in the foot. And from what I have read it was primarily the unionized camera crew that walked out while the others stayed.
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Zudgemud posted:Well, the crew apparently left because there was, aside from the lack of pay, a third accidental gun discharge the day before where the armorer shot herself in the foot. And from what I have read it was primarily the unionized camera crew that walked out while the others stayed. Was she even on set the next day then? I read the assistant director handed Baldwin the gun. Did he take over her duties with her out?
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They should have retreated to the Video Village, and sent the effects guys to the F/X Nook, and the sound guys to the Audio Hutch. Anyone left over could've gone to the extra space in the Craft-Services Den.
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Purgatory Glory posted:I know nothing about guns and even less about movie making. But I can't figuer out what someone is thinking when they pack the live ammo box to bring to the set. I mean I have no idea how safety is run on a movie set but I do some simunition (paintball ammo) trainings for room clearing and we will do pat down searches on every participant to check for weapons and live ammo even though the simunition weapons can't fire live ammo.
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Groda posted:What's that guy doing with an AP2CE at a forest fire? It's the volcanic erruption on La Palma. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsxsXRRDhAI
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:They should have retreated to the Video Village, and sent the effects guys to the F/X Nook, and the sound guys to the Audio Hutch. Anyone left over could've gone to the extra space in the Craft-Services Den. The naughty members on set get sent to the BDSM Bunker.
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mobby_6kl posted:Putting Conan in danger is perfectly fine though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIKOcCKFDME Battle pygmy take his head off!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6hAm0LC7dA
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:They should have retreated to the Video Village, and sent the effects guys to the F/X Nook, and the sound guys to the Audio Hutch. Anyone left over could've gone to the extra space in the Craft-Services Den. Why would one ever leave the craft services den?
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Karate Bastard posted:Battle pygmy take his head off!!! Conners such a piece of poo poo. anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3NetVhOJOA
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I wonder if the act itself was all on Baldwin. Like, were they shooting a scene and he happened to be pointing the gun in the crew's direction as part of that scene? Or were they just hanging out between takes and he gave them the old "oh look out, I'm gonna SHOOT you! hahaha" then bang. Either way considering filming conditions and his title he's at least partially to blame it sounds like. Bought title or not.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Looks damning. Is there evdience this person has worked on the projects they say they have? Yes, I verified it. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2989134/
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ChesterJT posted:I wonder if the act itself was all on Baldwin. Like, were they shooting a scene and he happened to be pointing the gun in the crew's direction as part of that scene? Or were they just hanging out between takes and he gave them the old "oh look out, I'm gonna SHOOT you! hahaha" then bang. Either way considering filming conditions and his title he's at least partially to blame it sounds like. Bought title or not. He was filming a scene where he "shoots" at the camera and they add a CGI bullet later.
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The current report is he was rehearsing with what he was told was an unloaded gun. The dumbass using live ammo for fun between takes unloaded the gun but missed a chamber.  The Single Action Army is loaded and unloaded one chamber at a time through a loading gate. Probably miscounted 6 ejections instead of 5 and didn’t check the whole cylinder before closing it up and handing it over to the AD. Even an experienced user probably wouldn’t have felt a difference in weight from an empty gun.
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chitoryu12 posted:Probably miscounted 6 ejections instead of 5 The punk felt lucky.
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This much I do know from reading over the years. On a properly run set, guns are not lying on prop tables. They are under the direct supervision (which includes being locked away) of the armorer at all times. A gun lying on a prop table is asking for some idiot to pick it up and play with it. I saw one post, early on, saying that one of the safety complaints was that there was no medic on set. You will notice that the news reports say that the crew tried to stanch the bleeding. They do not say "and then the medic did X, Y, or Z".
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chitoryu12 posted:The current report is he was rehearsing with what he was told was an unloaded gun. The dumbass using live ammo for fun between takes unloaded the gun but missed a chamber. this is a bad choice of gun for a movie set i feel
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punishedkissinger posted:this is a bad choice of gun for a movie set i feel If you can’t follow extremely basic procedures that children can learn, you shouldn’t be the armorer.
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Here's a long Twitter thread from the perspective of a movie armorer. https://twitter.com/sl_huang/status/1451797888158375937
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I saw one post, early on, saying that one of the safety complaints was that there was no medic on set. You will notice that the news reports say that the crew tried to stanch the bleeding. They do not say "and then the medic did X, Y, or Z". Hahahaha, drat. From my few times on a movie set, one of the things I remember is that my friend got a minor injury (like scraped knee level of minor) and our department head called the medic over to check her injury and make sure she was ok. We were both dumbstruck. Cause we work in the same union, but on our jobs a minor injury is met with "There's some band aids in the job box, good luck". We certainly never had medics on site for trade shows or concert load in and load out. Uthor posted:Why would one ever leave the craft services den? loving stupid bosses interrupting my 17th cup of hot chocolate & coffee, that's why.
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Kith posted:something something cave diving something something treasure I mean, they’re actually diving with air so that’s an improvement on other cave diving videos posted here.
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Road trip to get fitted with "Frikin laser beams" Look for the EvilCo logo on the trailer...
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Kibayasu posted:I mean, they’re actually diving with air so that’s an improvement on other cave diving videos posted here. The real treasure was the hypoxia they got along the way
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punishedkissinger posted:this is a bad choice of gun for a movie set i feel There is a concept in risk analysis called the "swiss cheese model." Each aspect of a job (cheese slice) has a certain number of possible failures in it (holes). When you perform all the aspects in sequence (stack up the cheese slices), most of the time a failure in one aspect is addressed by a safety protocol at another level. It's only when you have failures at every level that line up in just the right way (holes in every cheese slice in the same location) that an error can propagate all the way through and cause the bad outcome.  In this case the death could have been prevented by: Using a plugged or fake gun that could not fire real ammunition Not having live ammunition on set Not using the gun for target practice in between takes Properly unloading and clearing the gun before use on set Using a gun where it is immediately obvious if any bullets are loaded Having multiple people check the gun at each handoff from armorer to director to actor Not pointing the gun directly at a human being Using a rubber prop gun for rehearsals instead of the real thing Hiring an armorer who was competent and who would enforce all of the above safety procedures Having a medic on set who might have been able to successfully perform life-saving measures Stopping work when the majority of the crew voiced their safety concerns and walked off The point of the Swiss cheese model is to make clear that it's never a case of "oh, if only they had done this one thing differently nothing would have gone wrong." Tragic incidents like this are caused by everything going wrong, at every level, and it's only dumb luck that all the failures didn't line up until today. If the job were run properly every one of the safety protocols would be followed, and a failure in one area would be immediately addressed (e.g. firing the person who brought a box of live ammo to set) even though "nothing happened" because all the other layers worked correctly. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Anyone doing any fun OSHA Halloween costumes this year? The only party I'm going to (mostly outdoors, all vaccinated) is one with some of my IH classmates. I was thinking about getting a realistic looking foam brick and cutting it so it fits on my head at an angle, sticking it on with some spirit glue (I'm bald, thank goodness), doing some gore makeup around it/down the side of my head, and going as a construction worker who forgot their hard hat. Really, I'm just all for costumes that are comfortable, easy to drink in, but aren't "oh that's the absolute minimum effort possible"
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Sagebrush posted:There is a concept in risk analysis called the "swiss cheese model." Each aspect of a job (cheese slice) has a certain number of possible failures in it (holes). When you perform all the aspects in sequence (stack up the cheese slices), most of the time a failure in one aspect is addressed by a safety protocol at another level. It's only when you have failures at every level that line up in just the right way (holes in every cheese slice in the same location) that an error can propagate all the way through and cause the bad outcome. Swiss cheese approach also works well in that when there is a failure somewhere it usually gives everybody an “oh poo poo” moment that everyone can learn from where no one actually got hurt.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Looks damning. Is there evdience this person has worked on the projects they say they have? According to his imdb listing, yes. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2989134/ e;fb! Humbug Scoolbus fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Scholtz posted:Anyone doing any fun OSHA Halloween costumes this year? The only party I'm going to (mostly outdoors, all vaccinated) is one with some of my IH classmates. Not doing it, but making a demon core costume with some blue LEDs and a screwdriver sounds nice. Also serve gin tonic in uranium glass cups, if you have them and people don't get all rowdy and break them
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Sagebrush posted:There is a concept in risk analysis called the "swiss cheese model." Each aspect of a job (cheese slice) has a certain number of possible failures in it (holes). When you perform all the aspects in sequence (stack up the cheese slices), most of the time a failure in one aspect is addressed by a safety protocol at another level. It's only when you have failures at every level that line up in just the right way (holes in every cheese slice in the same location) that an error can propagate all the way through and cause the bad outcome. Just shows that cheese doesn't protect against bullets
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