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Nitrousoxide posted:What did Mat need healing for? I forget. Splinter in his hand from the quarterstaff after completely annihilating Gawyn and Galad
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jng2058 posted:I agree, but it's one that would probably be best served waiting until after the series wraps, ya know? I don't imagine it'll happen until the series wraps, because it would significantly gently caress with the way all the promotional material is set up, but I think it would be way more interesting now. There's a problem actors can get into, if they know their character's future (if the writer/director tells them). They start to act who the character becomes, not where they start. They play the result of a change, not the change itself. I'm curious how he's dealing with that for Rand, right now, shooting seasons 1&2. Once the series is over, hopefully (if it doesn't end after S2 or S3), he'll have gone through the character's changes and the conversation will be a different one. I want the "holy mother of god Rand goes through some poo poo in these books" convo before the actor's had a chance to process and understand how the show will handle it. I want his viewpoint now, anticipating that, not looking back on it.
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Oct 23, 2021 19:03
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Just thinking about all of the amazing season ending one liners that could come from this show if it last the whole thing. "Kneel or be knelt" is like top tier poo poo
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Oct 23, 2021 19:13
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Oct 23, 2021 19:15
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Zore posted:Removing his link with the Shadar Lorgoth dagger. Oh, okay that rings a bell.
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Oct 23, 2021 19:25
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Nitrousoxide posted:Oh, okay that rings a bell. it's pretty much the thing that sets up the first real mat segment, he wakes up after that and there's the whole stretch with mat beating the poo poo out of some warder trainees and all that
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Oct 23, 2021 19:35
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Johnny Joestar posted:it's pretty much the thing that sets up the first real mat segment, he wakes up after that and there's the whole stretch with mat beating the poo poo out of the biggest idiot in the series
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Oct 23, 2021 19:36
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Yeah Mat's first POV isn't until book 3 when he gets healed and we get the Mat everyone remembers. Before that he's a much more boring character and mostly just a whiny shitheel obsessed with pranks then just a vehicle for the dagger's corruption.
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Oct 23, 2021 19:54
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BigHead posted:Breaking the link to the dagger. The healing required a full circle of thirteen. Plus the most powerful sa'angreal the tower had, and I think a couple others were used as well. Month away, should be a fun few episodes.
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Oct 23, 2021 21:16
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Siuan also had Mat healed a little bit the night the dagger and horn were stolen from Fal Dara, because he wouldn't have made it even that far otherwise. That particular session was I think Siuan, Moiraine, Verin, and a couple others, and probably with the help of the angreal Moiraine had. It was a stopgap measure because there was no dagger physically present and there wasn't enough Aes Sedai there that they could trust to be part of this particular circle. The Yellow delegation at Fal Dara was unnamed so it is entirely possible that Chesmal Emry was there--but Siuan did not select either of them to be part of that circle.
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Oct 23, 2021 21:49
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I started the first book a week or so ago and I'm liking it alright. I'm not sure how many of these books I want to read but I'll definitely check out the second book after this. Not sure after that, though. Maybe check out books 3 and 4 but I don't see myself reading all 13. That's just too much, even if I absolutely adored the series. If the books were a third of their length then I'd probably be down for it but I just don't have the attention span, memory or time for thirteen 600 to 900 page books.
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Oct 23, 2021 22:50
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Jimbot posted:I started the first book a week or so ago and I'm liking it alright. I'm not sure how many of these books I want to read but I'll definitely check out the second book after this. Not sure after that, though. Maybe check out books 3 and 4 but I don't see myself reading all 13. That's just too much, even if I absolutely adored the series. If the books were a third of their length then I'd probably be down for it but I just don't have the attention span, memory or time for thirteen 600 to 900 page books. The audiobook's are really good. That's how I consumed them.
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Jimbot posted:I started the first book a week or so ago and I'm liking it alright. I'm not sure how many of these books I want to read but I'll definitely check out the second book after this. Not sure after that, though. Maybe check out books 3 and 4 but I don't see myself reading all 13. That's just too much, even if I absolutely adored the series. If the books were a third of their length then I'd probably be down for it but I just don't have the attention span, memory or time for thirteen 600 to 900 page books. Read for as long as you’re having fun and don’t feel bad when you stop. Book 4 has several of the very best moments, just FYI.
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Honestly if the end of book 2 doesn't completely hook you then just ditch.
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Zore posted:Yeah Mat's first POV isn't until book 3 when he gets healed and we get the Mat everyone remembers. christ, it took until book 3? for some reason it had melted in my brain and i assumed it was in book 2. i don't know why. that's a decent while until he actually becomes a character and not just a hinderance. VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Honestly if the end of book 2 doesn't completely hook you then just ditch. also yeah on this, the first book is a bit different in tone from the rest but 2 really picks up on it's own thing in general and continues that way for the rest of it and if you're not engaged by the time you get through 2 then it might just not be for you.
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Johnny Joestar posted:christ, it took until book 3? for some reason it had melted in my brain and i assumed it was in book 2. i don't know why. that's a decent while until he actually becomes a character and not just a hinderance. It’s seriously worth rereading the first three to just appreciate how good (but abrupt) a swerve it was when RJ just decided to make Mat the best character in the series. It’s like 30 pages and at the end you’re 100% aboard team mat.
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Oct 24, 2021 00:29
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Nitrousoxide posted:What did Mat need healing for? I forget. a hangover
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ChubbyChecker posted:a hangover Mat needing a circle of 12 and powerful objects of the One Power to cure a hangover would be exactly in character.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Mat needing a circle of 12 and powerful objects of the One Power to cure a hangover would be exactly in character. that much channeling is just going to give him a worse headache though
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Oct 24, 2021 03:07
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There was a time when someone offered to heal his hangover yeah.
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Mat needed healing to get his second “t” back, unfortunately not even a full circle could manage that. 
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It's ironic that Mat gets all his cool poo poo from passing through doors to Finnland, then spends the entire series complaining that he's being treated like a door Mat.
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Jedit posted:It's ironic that Mat gets all his cool poo poo from passing through doors to Finnland, then spends the entire series complaining that he's being treated like a door Mat. **casting an insanely powerful balefire weave at u to prevent this post from ever happening**
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Jedit posted:It's ironic that Mat gets all his cool poo poo from passing through doors to Finnland, then spends the entire series complaining that he's being treated like a door Mat. I'm gonna be honest, I disagree with you on so many things boardgame wise, but you're making solid quality posts here. Land of contrasts!
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Not to step on toes but Calenth posted this back years ago in the previous version of this thread:
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Data Graham posted:What do you call a man with no arms and no legs and one eye An Aiel that wouldn't tell Perrin where Faile was
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I've been wondering lately how Elayne's throne bid(s) would have went if the nobles involved knew they were backing a literal god-queen. Monarchs who can channel seem like an especially bad idea. Like I guess nobody involved was aware of the Oath Rod's lifespan-shortening, but even at a mere 300+ years that's still far too long.
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bio347 posted:I've been wondering lately how Elayne's throne bid(s) would have went if the nobles involved knew they were backing a literal god-queen. Monarchs who can channel seem like an especially bad idea. God Queens were fairly common and lauded around the time of the Trolloc Wars, though more modern Aes Sedai queens have not done so well. The White Tower wanted Moiraine to make a claim for the Sun Throne too. One might imagine that Elayne could abdicate after 40-50 years and take an ambassador-ish role like Morgase. I want to say that people in the palace knew full well Elayne was a powerful channeller (unlike Morgase), and so her fellow High Seats would have known.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:An Aiel that wouldn't tell Perrin where Faile was Faile Quest™ was the worst part of the series tbh
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:God Queens were fairly common and lauded around the time of the Trolloc Wars, though more modern Aes Sedai queens have not done so well. The White Tower wanted Moiraine to make a claim for the Sun Throne too. the connection between elayne's original throne and the white tower was also a pretty well-respected thing for the longest time and also why elaida was in the position she was at the time earlier in the series. morgase was never really strong enough to do all that much on her own but having channelers as rulers was not really a new thing for them and i doubt many of the nobles were truly allergic to the idea now, rand being a ruler made people ill for various, more reasonable reasons
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The show making it more of a mystery at first who the Dragon Reborn is makes quite a bit of sense. Of course, Egwene wouldn't work as the Dragon Reborn anyway. Part of the often enough negative reaction to Rand is not only that he's foretold to save and destroy the world, but that he's a male channeler, which the whole continent has been conditioned for three millennia to be someone to fear and despise. Egwene's not a male channeler. Not that female channelers don't face some (partly justified) prejudices, but it's a pale shadow of what the men have to deal with (in the usually short time they're alive/ungentled).
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MCM Comic Con is happening in London and they have an 'exclusive Wheel of Time experience' booth which just means 15 minutes of various scenes from the first episode. It seems like extended scenes from the trailer we've seen, with the notable ones being Egwene performing a ceremony with the Woman's Circle to braid her hair and the attack on the al'Thor farm. They also show some of the Winternight attack with Mat running out into the chaos to find his sisters, Perrin barricading himself and a woman in the blacksmiths workshop, and Egwene dancing with someone before they get killed by a trolloc axe. e: I know this is a book spoiler thread but I don't want to spoil anything that might be new to the show for anyone who wants to go in with no beforehand knowledge of changes. ONE YEAR LATER fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Oct 24, 2021 |
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:Egwene performing a ceremony with the Woman's Circle to braid her hair That's really cool. It's a good scene to include to help move the center away from Rand. Instead of just Rand's reaction to it, you see what it means for Egwene.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:God Queens were fairly common and lauded around the time of the Trolloc Wars, though more modern Aes Sedai queens have not done so well. The White Tower wanted Moiraine to make a claim for the Sun Throne too. Actually, now that I think of it, what the hell happened to Elayne such that her granddaughter is on the throne in Aviendha's flash forward scene? That's only like 50-60 years from the end of the books, Elayne should barely be early middle age for an Aes Sedai!
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jng2058 posted:Actually, now that I think of it, what the hell happened to Elayne such that her granddaughter is on the throne in Aviendha's flash forward scene? That's only like 50-60 years from the end of the books, Elayne should barely be early middle age for an Aes Sedai! She might have retired as both an Aes Sedai and queen to live with her husband so that people don't figure out who he is.
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jng2058 posted:Actually, now that I think of it, what the hell happened to Elayne such that her granddaughter is on the throne in Aviendha's flash forward scene? That's only like 50-60 years from the end of the books, Elayne should barely be early middle age for an Aes Sedai! Birgitte's no longer around to save her dumb rear end from yet another Queen-as-bait trap.
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