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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Nichael posted:

It's really weird Salma Hayek and Angelina Jolie are in a MCU movie and no one seems to care of its existence.

I watched Dr. Strange again a while back and completely missed that Mads Mikkelsen and Tilda Swinton are both in the MCU the first go around.

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C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
Saw Dune and thought it was dope. My one fake complaint is that it felt like a movie specifically aimed at people who already know the source material, but at the same time I've had a bunch of people who've never read the book say that they really liked it so what do I know?

Really wish someone had the guts and money to do an adaptation of Dune Messiah after they finish with DUNC Part 2 :getin:

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
just do the book as one movie and take five hours if they can do it in the soviet union they can do it here DYING EMPIRE FOR FUCKS SAKE

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

uber_stoat posted:

i saw Dune in a theatre today and like 75% of the previews were for fuckin super hero movies, this poo poo has to stop.

Dune is a superhero movie.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

C-Euro posted:

Saw Dune and thought it was dope. My one fake complaint is that it felt like a movie specifically aimed at people who already know the source material, but at the same time I've had a bunch of people who've never read the book say that they really liked it so what do I know?

Really wish someone had the guts and money to do an adaptation of Dune Messiah after they finish with DUNC Part 2 :getin:
Villeneuve is planning to do Messiah too.

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
Tilda Swinton in Doctor Strange was still loving embarrassing. Yeah, yeah, I know Shang-Chi was fun and watchable . I didn't see it.

I remember when consoomers didn't care about yellowface before they decided diversity was good after all.

Echo Chamber has issued a correction as of 18:20 on Oct 24, 2021

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔
i actually did like superheroes and superhero movies before they decided to replace every other type of media with them but now I hate them

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1452290645771620353

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
forty is decent but man, that movie cost $165 to make. Double it for marketing and you can't help but think everyone at WB saying it is totally getting its second part is just lying.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


i wonder what it would have been without the hbo max simul-release...... i watched it at home but prob would have caught in the theater if it wasn't available

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


C-Euro posted:

Saw Dune and thought it was dope. My one fake complaint is that it felt like a movie specifically aimed at people who already know the source material, but at the same time I've had a bunch of people who've never read the book say that they really liked it so what do I know?

Really wish someone had the guts and money to do an adaptation of Dune Messiah after they finish with DUNC Part 2 :getin:

never read it but i liked the movie. going to watch the lynch version tonight probably

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Kull wahad!

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

C-Euro posted:

Saw Dune and thought it was dope. My one fake complaint is that it felt like a movie specifically aimed at people who already know the source material, but at the same time I've had a bunch of people who've never read the book say that they really liked it so what do I know?

Really wish someone had the guts and money to do an adaptation of Dune Messiah after they finish with DUNC Part 2 :getin:

I read the first dune book like 10 years ago and don't remember much beyond the barest basics, and I really enjoyed the film. I feel like the film intuits and hints at a lot of things and trusts the viewer will pick up on it, and imo it worked pretty well.

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

i say swears online posted:

it's literally not a good show until season 4

thats absolutely crazy. season 3 has a bunch of classic episodes like the parking garage one, the one where george pretends to be a nazi, the pez dispenser episode, and a whole bunch more

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Judakel posted:

forty is decent but man, that movie cost $165 to make. Double it for marketing and you can't help but think everyone at WB saying it is totally getting its second part is just lying.

I think at this point it depends on how much Villanueve wants to do the second part and how much the studio values their relationship with him, there's no financial justification for doing it unless they think he can make it up for them with other movies AND threatens to walk over it

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


AVClub Review posted:

Maybe playing Ted Lasso is rubbing off on Jason Sudeikis. Or maybe he was just always hiding a streak of affecting genuineness through his long and suddenly world-bestriding comedy career. But the former Saturday Night Live star’s monologue managed to find the perfect sweet spot between reverent and maudlin when it came to putting his life in Studio 8H into perspective. It’s not everybody who can pull the whole, “look around you” card to an audience without coming off corny, but Sudeikis’ palpable love of the place and his part in its long and storied history got to me (and, seemingly, the audience).

Calling out past stars like Gilda, Eddie, Farley, and Fey, and then, pointing to the musical stage, to the likes of Elvis Costello, Kanye (or Ye), Nirvana, and the Stones, Sudeikis urged the in-studio crowd to simply appreciate how much of what’s happened in that room has changed the world of comedy. Or the world of TV. or, hell, I’ll say it—the world, full stop.

How much of SNL is just SNL commenting on how important SNL is?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
snl changed the world

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

indigi posted:

I think at this point it depends on how much Villanueve wants to do the second part and how much the studio values their relationship with him, there's no financial justification for doing it unless they think he can make it up for them with other movies AND threatens to walk over it

i don't see what he could bring to the studio that would be worth another loss. movie theaters are not going back to normal business until covid is stamped out, which will be never here in the us

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
maybe he agrees to make part two for like 70 million

Aglet56
Sep 1, 2011
everybody laughed at moviepass when they just burned investor money on a scheme that would obviously never be profitable, but they were just ahead of their time

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005

Horizon Burning posted:

not really. that's the problem with self-published books. there's basically two audiences for books -- the traditional audience and the amazon audience. however, traditional publishing is dying for a whole host of reasons and it has been dying for a long time. most authors these days don't make their advances back. self-publishing should be the answer, but amazon is the only storefront for it (being realistic) and the hour-by-hour algorithm-driven means that writing has been market-focused like never before. which means that self-pub is all trends and ripped-from-the-headlines poo poo or really nerdy, terminally online crap like litrpgs. self-pub also basically has category cabals who work together to drive certain keywords, all of them coordinating to write, say, m/m navy seal dubcon romance and release in the month of October to game the system. as someone who works in the industry, books and reading are just in a bad place in general. traditional publishing is supposed to work as that filter, and the "prestige" is literally the only thing traditional publishing can offer a writer these days (and the gamble to be a break out hit), but traditional publishing is doing all kinds of less-than-ideal poo poo like ghostwriting books under the names of YouTubers to try and turn a quick profit.

these days audiobook rights sell more to publishers than the actual book rights do, and ideally they'll be able to turn around and sell movie or tv series rights immediately. you should see some of the media packages agents put together for publishers. it's like they're selling everything BUT a novel.


Amazing to hear this. Thank you.
Yeah when ever I read a current book I keep thinking "this should be a show on USA. Characters Welcomed"


As a whole, do people read more or less now, if you combine tradition publishing and Self Publishing.


For Traditional Publishing
What is the major internal problems and external problems that are killing Traditional p.

What is the average sale of the book?
When a book does Hit, how hard does it hit? How many sales, and does it keep the publisher afloat.
How well are audiobooks doing?




On the Self Published Side:
I want to hear more about these cabals to drive certain keywords.
Is there a time line of these events? Can I see this happening in real time.
That's loving crazy!


Overall, how many novels are made? Like is it some crazy number, like, 1000 books a day are put out?


I completely forgot the shelf space bottle neck. Brick Stories could not put every book / cd on the shelf.
Amazon / Online in general took that dog out back and shot it.


Horizon Burning posted:

"it's like they're selling everything BUT a novel.."
This is loving CRAZY!



(As a note, Underlying my thoughts is the 1980's DIY punk rock bands like Black Flag, Minor Threat, and Minutemen.
Because they provide a simple yet current model of how to exist outside majors.)


Aglet56 posted:

just wanna say that i dig your posting style
Years of trying to following the Something awful rules: Be interesting or be funny.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

didn't it come out they barely paid the crew

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

C-Euro posted:

Saw Dune and thought it was dope. My one fake complaint is that it felt like a movie specifically aimed at people who already know the source material, but at the same time I've had a bunch of people who've never read the book say that they really liked it so what do I know?

Really wish someone had the guts and money to do an adaptation of Dune Messiah after they finish with DUNC Part 2 :getin:

I've never read the books or seen the Lynch movie and I liked it, but then again I did play the Dune RTS back in the 90s

mazzi Chart Czar
Sep 24, 2005

Most story plots:
WE need to save the world.
I need to make money. - This one is what we call "realism"
I want to gently caress this other person.
I'm trapped and trying to escape.

Edit: Instead of money, I want this item. (Jingle all the way baby!)

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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005


The fool is a simpleton, a court jester who is allowed to tell the truth precisely because the 'performative power' (the sociopolitical efficiency) of his speech is suspended; the knave is the cynic who openly states the truth, a crook who tries to sell the open admission of his crookedness as honesty, a scoundrel who admit the need for illegitimate repression in order to maintain social stability.

Following the fall of Socialism, the knave is a neo-conservative advocate of the free market, who cruelly rejects all forms of social solidarity as counterproductive sentimentalism; while the fool is a multiculturalist 'radical' social critic who, by means of his ludic procedures destined to 'subvert' the existing order, actually serves as its supplement

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Judakel posted:

didn't it come out they barely paid the crew

Yeah lol, in a sane universe wed all be hating it, or at least, hating its production

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Judakel posted:

didn't it come out they barely paid the crew

I wouldn't be surprised

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Lorne Michaels invented the neuro-physical process that causes humans to laugh. Thank you, sir!

Pyrus Malus
Nov 22, 2007
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well now I'm definitely wondering what the takeaway from squid game is for rich people

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Pyrus Malus posted:

well now I'm definitely wondering what the takeaway from squid game is for rich people

remember all the academy people explaining why they voted for parasite

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

babypolis posted:

thats absolutely crazy. season 3 has a bunch of classic episodes like the parking garage one, the one where george pretends to be a nazi, the pez dispenser episode, and a whole bunch more

okay parking garage is good, but it just doesn't have the same feel as the batshit later episodes

looking back i'm shocked that the beginning stand-up bits didn't end until season 7, i thought they ditched those way earlier. maybe all classics in my head are from the final 2-3 seasons

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
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i say swears online posted:

remember all the academy people explaining why they voted for parasite

please show me

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Judakel posted:

please show me

i remember lots of lib-brained takes but all i can find is the opposite here

https://www.complex.com/pop-culture...h-regular-films

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
https://twitter.com/zachsilberberg/status/1452081726923100160?s=20

ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014
Rich people are always the first to praise this kind of poo poo because it's "transgressive" and let's them huff their own farts about how socially conscious they are. See also how they responded to Parasite and AOC's dress.

Art has a place in socialist politics but it should be both BY and FOR the working class.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

i say swears online posted:

i remember lots of lib-brained takes but all i can find is the opposite here

https://www.complex.com/pop-culture...h-regular-films

you lied to me

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Judakel posted:

you lied to me

that's okay :)

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Just make up your own quotes of rich people saying dumb things and just sort of start believing that they're real.

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ToxicAcne
May 25, 2014

Mantis42 posted:

Just make up your own quotes of rich people saying dumb things and just sort of start believing that they're real.

They might as well be.

I can't find it but there was some lady who was complaining about how she couldn't get her servants to come over when the lockdown started who also tweeted about how she loved Parasite.

The past few years have basically been a daily occurrence of Marie Antoinette moments.

Also it seems like Eternals is getting poo poo reviews. Good riddance.

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