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There's no way ole gets sacked at the moment, he didn't get fired when spurs put 6 past them so I can't see them firing him now.
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Oct 25, 2021 09:09
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Do United have an Arsenal Fan TV equivalent?
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the sex ghost posted:Having a snoop at the racing post this morning and they've got ole as the odds-on favourite to be sacked next with Conte as replacement. I figured he'd get at least a full season regardless of what happens. Can a manager get so owned they sack him based on one result They've got City at home in a couple of weeks. Another bad defeat there would surely be the end of him. On the other hand, manager odds are not really reflective of reality and very kneejerk. Xabi posted:Do United have an Arsenal Fan TV equivalent? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rzmz8Kse3Y This guy's live at the minute. Edit: Here's his live watchalong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lms4qy1BQLo Mickolution fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Oct 25, 2021 10:38
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Ole losing games embarrassingly might not get him sacked, but tanking the value of players surely will?
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Xabi posted:Do United have an Arsenal Fan TV equivalent? Goldbridge yeah as shared above
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the sex ghost posted:Having a snoop at the racing post this morning and they've got ole as the odds-on favourite to be sacked next with Conte as replacement. I figured he'd get at least a full season regardless of what happens. Can a manager get so owned they sack him based on one result guardian's reporting that the players are turning on Ole: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/25/antonio-conte-keen-on-manchester-united-job-as-players-doubt-solskjaer-capability-tactics quote:Several dressing-room sources have told the Guardian that Sunday’s 5-0 capitulation to Liverpool at Old Trafford has crystallised a lack of belief in Solskjær being a good enough manager for United. The 48-year-old is considered tactically underwhelming, while being well-liked by the squad and within the wider club. if true, seems like the players like him as a person but frankly don't think he's up to the job as a manager
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A club that bought an aging striker/twat they don't need, solely because City were in for him and the old guard demanded it, have bigger problems than a bad manager IMHO.
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Oct 25, 2021 14:54
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lol https://twitter.com/GNev2/status/1452630572304683017
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Gary's right ole just needs time
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drat maybe Ole should be bringing himself on in the 88th minute to win games.
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Man Utd never should have sold Dan James. All downhill from there.
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Oct 25, 2021 15:55
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How the gently caress did Ronaldo not get a red in that game is beyond me... any other player/team would have got one.
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Oct 25, 2021 19:31
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T Bowl posted:How the gently caress did Ronaldo not get a red in that game is beyond me... any other player/team would have got one. tbf he got all ball
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Vinestalk posted:No, everybody knew Arsene was a joke years before he was fired. Everyone also knew the results were bound to get worse under any manager unless Kroenke actually decided to spend money on one of the big managers that was available and then buy players they wanted. It’s become clear that the backroom staff who replaced that aspect of Wenger’s role are far less competent and more corrupt than he was. Edu should go to jail for the money they’ve wasted. the sex ghost posted:Can a manager get so owned they sack him based on one result They were already playing like crap and had a worse record than Arsenal before yesterday. They’ll wait until after they get gubbed by City though, if only to give the replacement a fighting chance. Xabi posted:A club that bought an aging striker/twat they don't need, solely because City were in for him and the old guard demanded it, have bigger problems than a bad manager IMHO. Yup. You know Ole didn’t demand this either, managers don’t have nearly the power they used to, so how much is really on them?
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Reprisal posted:tbf he got all ball not on the first kick and what did he expect would happen when a player is down blocking the ball and you kick the ball directly into him? red all day.
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can't wait until this scourge of ex man u players as influential people around the pl fucks off forever
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wooger posted:It’s become clear that the backroom staff who replaced that aspect of Wenger’s role are far less competent and more corrupt than he was. Edu should go to jail for the money they’ve wasted. 100%, and it's because the owner is dogshit. But, let's be real, just because Sanlehi/Edu were/are worse doesn't validate Wenger in anyway. I made a post about it in the MDT, but Wenger drastically overestimated himself and his ideology.
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T Bowl posted:not on the first kick and what did he expect would happen when a player is down blocking the ball and you kick the ball directly into him? red all day. Could've killed him.
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kcer posted:can't wait until this scourge of ex man u players as influential people around the pl fucks off forever Monkey's paw curls, it's all ex Liverpool players going on about the boot room for eternity
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T Bowl posted:not on the first kick and what did he expect would happen when a player is down blocking the ball and you kick the ball directly into him? red all day. Teflon Ron baby girl.
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the sex ghost posted:Monkey's paw curls, it's all ex Liverpool players going on about the boot room for eternity Surely it's Chelsea's turn next.
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Vinestalk posted:100%, and it's because the owner is dogshit. But, let's be real, just because Sanlehi/Edu were/are worse doesn't validate Wenger in anyway. I made a post about it in the MDT, but Wenger drastically overestimated himself and his ideology. Wenger's ideology and economic plan would have worked in any sane system but he failed to understand the PL tv deals would continue to spiral wildly upwards with every renewal, like the junk bonds getting rated AAA in The Big Short except it's Sky paying a billion quid to show Burnley v Crystal Palace and claiming it's Super Sunday. So the plan to sit on a big balance was counter productive because it actually became worth less than spunking it on players who's worth seemingly went up regardless.
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Vinestalk posted:100%, and it's because the owner is dogshit. But, let's be real, just because Sanlehi/Edu were/are worse doesn't validate Wenger in anyway. I made a post about it in the MDT, but Wenger drastically overestimated himself and his ideology. Is the post in the MDT the one where you confidently assert that Wengers succsess was based on a defense built by - checks notes- Rioch?
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As a lifelong Liverpool fan I think if Gary Neville of is given the choice between being an impartial pundit and throwing a former team mate who he spent some of the best years of his life playing with under the bus or refusing to do that and obviously holding back his words, I'd take the latter because being a pundit is a joke job anyway.
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Gorn Myson posted:As a lifelong Liverpool fan I think if Gary Neville of is given the choice between being an impartial pundit and throwing a former team mate who he spent some of the best years of his life playing with under the bus or refusing to do that and obviously holding back his words, I'd take the latter because being a pundit is a joke job anyway. I would reach into my pocket and bring out a thick notepad in which I've spent a 20 year career scrawling every single slight against me.
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Good ball by Dixon posted:Is the post in the MDT the one where you confidently assert that Wengers succsess was based on a defense built by - checks notes- Rioch? can you hurry up and get to why you think they're wrong about that so we can laugh
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Good ball by Dixon posted:Is the post in the MDT the one where you confidently assert that Wengers succsess was based on a defense built by - checks notes- Rioch? My bad, posting while tired. George Graham. Point is still the same that Wenger didn't build his defense.
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:can you hurry up and get to why you think they're wrong about that so we can laugh
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Wenger didn't buy an entire new starting 11 when he joined, no. That's an insane metric to measure any managers success by since a big part of being a good manager is improving what you've got. Added to that the defence Wenger inherited had finished 12th in the league 2 seasons back so it wasn't like it was a title winning defense by default by any means. Even considering all that by the time of the Invincibles and the Champs League final it was all Wenger bought players.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:I would reach into my pocket and bring out a thick notepad in which I've spent a 20 year career scrawling every single slight against me.
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Good ball by Dixon posted:It's still nonsense because Wenger had them playing in a way noone believed they could play and then built his strongest defense using noone of them. All Wenger did for the defense was tell them to eat better, drink less, and stop smoking. The only people who "played in a way no one believed," was the offense. Like this is willful ignorance of One Nil to the Arsenal. Flayer posted:Wenger didn't buy an entire new starting 11 when he joined, no. That's an insane metric to measure any managers success by since a big part of being a good manager is improving what you've got. Added to that the defence Wenger inherited had finished 12th in the The old defenders still rotated through the squad even after the invincibles season. The defense during the Champions League run was limited to just the Champions League. They were average during the league and that's why they finished 4th with dodgy lasagna to thank.
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Good ball by Dixon posted:Rioch was a 1 year footnote between Wenger and Graham and the only way I can imagine anyone crediting him with building the Arsenal defense is if someone told them that the manager before Wenger built the defense and then going on wikipedia to find out who it was. It's still nonsense because Wenger had them playing in a way noone believed they could play and then built his strongest defense using noone of them. There is a certain type of Arsenal fan[1] who credit Rioch with being the more influential manager because he bought in Bergkamp, and completely abandoned Graham's really weird homespun training methods, which included at least two hours a week on the offside trap. Of course these were the exact same fans who all loving hated Rioch for abandoning the offside trap and introducing fancy-dan foreign ideas like "Defenders should do something other than kick the ball as hard as possible in the exact direction they're facing" and believed Bergkamp was a very poor replacement for Alan Smith. [1] who I'm certain don't post here because they're all ex-postmen who have massive final-salary pensions that they retired on at 55, and don't have the spare online time between posting Minions memes about how lazy young people are and posting really gross poo poo on Facebook about women younger than their own kids. I know this sounds like I'm calling out a particular person but no, there's *thousands* of the fuckers. People old enough to remember pre-Clock End rebuild Highbury will know who I'm talking about, the ones who all used to be in the corner in their blue Royal Mail jackets.
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Bacon Terrorist posted:Wenger's ideology and economic plan would have worked in any sane system but he failed to understand the PL tv deals would continue to spiral wildly upwards with every renewal, like the junk bonds getting rated AAA in The Big Short except it's Sky paying a billion quid to show Burnley v Crystal Palace and claiming it's Super Sunday. So the plan to sit on a big balance was counter productive because it actually became worth less than spunking it on players who's worth seemingly went up regardless. Arsene Wenger 🤝 Glenn Hoddle Getting fired for thinking they're experts in things they know nothing about
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Vinestalk posted:All Wenger did for the defense was tell them to eat better, drink less, and stop smoking. The only people who "played in a way no one believed," was the offense. Like this is willful ignorance of One Nil to the Arsenal. Not quite, Wenger also had them change their exercise routines and do a lot more yoga type stretching to prolong their careers. It was ahead of it's time in the UK game, my mate played for Blackburn years ago (not first team really, his claim to fame is being on the same release form as Mark Hughes) and said when they played Arsenal youth team they all turned up with mats and did a weird warm up routine. The next week Blackburn had bought all the same mats and copied the warm up. I'd also argue it is extremely dismissive of Wenger to say he did nothing with the defence. I don't recall seeing too many attacking fullbacks on the overlap in England pre-Wenger. Now it is default. The only defender from the Graham/Rioch era left by the time of the Invincibles was Keown. No way he was starting ahead of Campbell and Toure.
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Ole fired Up to manage Manchester United to a 5th place finish and Europa League semifinal
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Luckily for Ole their CL group is so poo poo even Utd are able to beat them. Unfortunately for Ole this means they cant bounce into the Europa League
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