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Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


Methanar posted:

America is the best country in the world. sorry to hear about your weird self-hate complex.
It's not a surprise that the most patriotic of Americans, and the demographics with the lowest rates of crime and highest rates of social mobility are of first and second generation immigrants who actually understand what the alternatives are.

Maybe you'll grow out of your 'too cool for america' phase one day and realize how good you have it.

It is more that I do not want you making it worse.

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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Methanar posted:

America is the best country in the world. sorry to hear about your weird self-hate complex.
It's not a surprise that the most patriotic of Americans, and the demographics with the lowest rates of crime and highest rates of social mobility are of first and second generation immigrants who actually understand what the alternatives are.

Maybe you'll grow out of your 'too cool for america' phase one day and realize how good you have it.

Your brain is so broken you're beyond help at this point.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

America is wild. The gun issue thing is like its own little world, mainly shared by countries run by cartels and warlords.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

Out of all the parts of the constitution and amendments the one, single, unchangeable item seems to be the right to bear arms. I'm looking forward to when all other amendments are amended and not a peep is heard, but y'all lose your poo poo if they touch the second haha.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
If you want to post about how much you hate immigrants and america, you should consider the liberal opinion thread instead.

dk2m
May 6, 2009

Methanar posted:

America is the best country in the world. sorry to hear about your weird self-hate complex.
It's not a surprise that the most patriotic of Americans, and the demographics with the lowest rates of crime and highest rates of social mobility are of first and second generation immigrants who actually understand what the alternatives are.

Maybe you'll grow out of your 'too cool for america' phase one day and realize how good you have it.

In my dads generation, there was heavy propaganda across the world to cultivate this image (Radio Free America for example) because it was a strategic interest to counter Soviet influence. There was actually a huge split in the third world over this - many of my dads friends went to Moscow for university while he decided to come to America. When asked why - he will regurgitate a lot of the talking points about freedom and all that.

I will nonetheless give you that there is a high degree of patriotism for first gen immigrants. There’s a lot of reasons (one is mentioned above), but this has caused an enormous complacency amongst the native population that is now biting everyone in the rear end. It turns out that constantly resting on your laurels means that a lot of people have not only caught up, but has far surpassed this rather ancient talking point. Working life as a professional in the US is the butt of the joke even in places like Russia where they have federally mandated maternity leave. Americans believe their own psyops campaign which is now used to stall progress because why bother? We’re the greatest. Even though by nearly every metric that matters like health, education, happiness and per capita prosperity, were falling behind everywhere.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Methanar posted:

If you want to post about how much you hate immigrants and america, you should consider the liberal opinion thread instead.

I guess if you want to defend/excuse genocides you'd fit right in, in America.

runnypoops
Mar 26, 2016

been there. done that. prove yourself to me.
Firing pistols into the sky Yosemite Sam style rn

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Sometimes before I say something obvious I put my thumbs behind my invisible overalls and say, "ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I may be a simple [noun] but I think it's clear that..."

Irregardless
Jan 19, 2007

not even once.
Pizza and fries in school lunches shouldn’t count as two vegetables and a grain.

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

ricardo montalban is just too swarthy for me

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

CaptainSarcastic posted:

I'm not 100% sure but I think it's from this one long and batshit LOLbertarian comic.

It’s actually a sex comic about conservative amazons dominating soft men.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Nigmaetcetera posted:

It’s actually a sex comic about conservative amazons dominating soft men.

If only.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




Nigmaetcetera posted:

It’s actually a sex comic about conservative amazons dominating soft men.

this thread is for conservative opinions, not the future liberals want

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

Methanar posted:

America is the best country in the world. sorry to hear about your weird self-hate complex.
It's not a surprise that the most patriotic of Americans, and the demographics with the lowest rates of crime and highest rates of social mobility are of first and second generation immigrants who actually understand what the alternatives are.

Maybe you'll grow out of your 'too cool for america' phase one day and realize how good you have it.
Takes like this remind me that American nationalism is a hell of a thing. Most of the time American nationalists don't even recognize themselves as that - it's not nationalism, it's just recognizing the self-evident truth that the US is special, superior, and not in any way just another country! It's so deeply instilled that sometimes you will see Americans who aren't huge fans of their country still basically accept it: They think it might suck, but it's at least still the best that can be, things can't improve or be better elsewhere, because America is, even when it sucks, the best.

I'm not American and while I think my country is generally a pretty good place to live the idea that it's somehow special or categorically the the best country on Earth is alien to me. That'd be a real wacky thing to think because this kind of nationalism and exceptionalism hasn't been mainstreamed here.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The USA is loving mess, but as far as the human condition goes I feel pretty lucky that I randomly ended up here and not some place that was being bombed by the US or eaten alive by African warlords or living under a regime controlled by a drug cartel or whatever.

sigher
Apr 22, 2008

My guiding Moonlight...



Who What Now posted:

Imagine being such a coward you have to have a gun on you at all times, and then further assuming everyone else is as terrified of their own shadows as you

I hate guns, guns should be banned completely, but you obviously haven't stepped foot in the hood where it's not uncommon to hear gunshots on the nightly. When you live in conditions put your life at risk, yes, you are terrified on the regular. I don't blame people for wanting to be strapped because their living conditions basically necessitate it.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
I actually don’t know if this is a conservative opinion or not but here goes anyway: all of the branches of government in the US are staffed by war criminals and war profiteers, including the guy that most on these forums voted into the White House last year. The US is in trouble because lefties don’t want to face this reality and think they can keep voting in the right people to get to safety and prosperity while shutting their eyes to the fact that they voted in baby killers who bomb weddings.

The secret here is that the political divide is strictly for show because like :blizz: the people up on the Hill know that tribalism is their best bet to stay in power and never be held accountable.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I lived in the middle of a gang war for about 3 months and tbh it never once crossed my mind to get a gun. There was gunfire almost every night but it's not like I ever thought it was directed at me. I was much more worried about getting hit by a stray bullet than defending myself. No idea how I could have improved that situation by having a gun myself like "yeah let me just insert myself into this violence for no reason" lol. The people most likely to be walking around with guns for "self defense" usually live in places where there is basically no reason for it but they are just waiting to have that moment where they get to be a hero.

Then the one in million hero scenario happens and they just get shot themselves.

Smegma Princess X
Jul 27, 2012

HIJK posted:

I actually don’t know if this is a conservative opinion or not but here goes anyway: all of the branches of government in the US are staffed by war criminals and war profiteers, including the guy that most on these forums voted into the White House last year. The US is in trouble because lefties don’t want to face this reality and think they can keep voting in the right people to get to safety and prosperity while shutting their eyes to the fact that they voted in baby killers who bomb weddings.

The secret here is that the political divide is strictly for show because like :blizz: the people up on the Hill know that tribalism is their best bet to stay in power and never be held accountable.

Sir this is the conservative opinions thread, not the leftist opinions thread.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
As someone who lives in a country that is slipping towards America's lovely standing I disagree hard on the best country thing.

As for my conservative thoughts, I mean, I guess I think nuclear power is neat.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Smegma Princess X posted:

Sir this is the conservative opinions thread, not the leftist opinions thread.

I don't see a functional difference between leftists and other leftists when "Vote for the guy who agreed with drone striking weddings in Yemen" was what they had in common. I'm continually baffled by these attempts to bifurcate America's political left when the goals are the same and all they worry about are the tactics.

It's closing your eyes and whistling past the graveyard

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

Meme Poker Party posted:

Westerners just don't know how to make porn into art. Gonna have to get some hentai doujins.

You have many things to learn about the French.

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting
Jeez, you babies need to wake up and realize Real Politics involves decisions the average person is not dead enough inside to make. Like choosing to spend lives of children and elderly to stop-gap an economic downturn.

We should thank these selfless babykillers!

E: Biden is doing this by not deploying the military to force vaccinate everyone then resigning his office to stand trial for the crime of deploying the US military on US soil.

The Alchemist
Dec 12, 2010
I just assume everyones gender because Im too shy to ask

scott zoloft
Dec 7, 2015

yeah same
If gender is a spectrum then attention seeker should considered just as valid as any other identity

Pyromancer
Apr 29, 2011

This man must look upon the fire, smell of it, warm his hands by it, stare into its heart
The most effective weapons for both home defense and overthrowing tyrannical government are explosives, and americans aren't allowed to have those. Ban handguns, allow landmines.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

scott zoloft posted:

If gender is a spectrum then attention seeker should considered just as valid as any other identity

We accept you for what you are, don't worry :)

Irregardless
Jan 19, 2007

not even once.

scott zoloft posted:

If gender is a spectrum then attention seeker should considered just as valid as any other identity

I feel like the gender argument is overblown a bit by folks since usually pronouns for people are used when they’re not present. That said, my conservative opinion I suppose would be that all of the neo pronouns are like obscure music genres and no one cares to discuss it with those people except those people. I’m glad they found community but that kind of thing has to live almost exclusively online.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

Reminder that Methanar is Canadian, a country that is insanely similar but marginally objectively better than the USA

and while I agree that it’s a fad to hate on America on the internet for cool points, that doesn’t mean it’s not a giant loving mess lmao

Like move out of your Alberta basement to Denmark and talk that best country nonsense bro lol

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Denmark isn't a real country.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

lol saying canada is "marginally" better than the us and then suggesting a move to denmark. this isn't the leftist caricature thread

silence_kit
Jul 14, 2011

by the sex ghost

scott zoloft posted:

If gender is a spectrum then attention seeker should considered just as valid as any other identity

I don't exactly understand what this post means, but along the same lines:

Left wing people will often claim that they believe in the following universal principle: people are almost exclusively a product of their environment. However, they often abandon this principle whenever it becomes politically inconvenient.

AHH F/UGH posted:

and while I agree that it’s a fad to hate on America on the internet for cool points, that doesn’t mean it’s not a giant loving mess lmao

Life is not fair, and there are many injustices in this world. But IMO America is really not that bad. IMO, people of all political beliefs like to exaggerate the problems in American society.

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

scott zoloft posted:

If gender is a spectrum then attention seeker should considered just as valid as any other identity
These takes are honestly bad and stigmatizing. When I came out as Bi, my mom told me I was just doing it for attention. Then not only do you feel shame for being "abnormal" now you're shaming yourself for being an attention seeker too.

If my gender feelings were just for attention, I don't think if be wearing dresses in private only. I don't think id be afraid of making eye contact the first time I wore mascara out of the house. If it happens when no one is around, it ain't for attention. Shame is a hell of a thing and self gaslighting sucks.

silence_kit posted:

I don't exactly understand what this post means, but along the same lines:

Left wing people will often claim that they believe in the following universal principle: people are almost exclusively a product of their environment. However, they often abandon this principle whenever it becomes politically inconvenient.
I always see a tendency for right wing people to be very black and white. It can be nature and nurture, doesn't have to be or. Not everything is binary.
What else do you see the left applying this to?


Irregardless posted:

I feel like the gender argument is overblown a bit by folks since usually pronouns for people are used when they’re not present. That said, my conservative opinion I suppose would be that all of the neo pronouns are like obscure music genres and no one cares to discuss it with those people except those people. I’m glad they found community but that kind of thing has to live almost exclusively online.
Yea, pretty much.

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit

Methanar posted:

America is the best country in the world. sorry to hear about your weird self-hate complex.
It's not a surprise that the most patriotic of Americans, and the demographics with the lowest rates of crime and highest rates of social mobility are of first and second generation immigrants who actually understand what the alternatives are.

Maybe you'll grow out of your 'too cool for america' phase one day and realize how good you have it.

Buddy just because it's better than everything else doesn't mean it isn't complete poo poo.

E socialist european coutries are better anyway. No I won't move there. i'm not allowed due to our status as a plague state filled with idiots.

sugar free jazz
Mar 5, 2008

Sure there were some problems but Nero knew how to bring joy and community to the Roman peoples and that sort of family feeling has always been important to us Romans.

curlys gold
Jan 17, 2018

silence_kit posted:

Left wing people will often claim that they believe in the following universal principle: people are almost exclusively a product of their environment. However, they often abandon this principle whenever it becomes politically inconvenient.

Ive never heard anybody say this. Like, ever.

Saalkin
Jun 29, 2008

Wait Methanar is a Canadian?

This is unsettling.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Saalkin posted:

Wait Methanar is a Canadian?

This is unsettling.

Yes lmao he's a loving moron

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

Saalkin posted:

Wait Methanar is a Canadian?

This is unsettling.

Methanar and Jordan Petersen are reminders that Canadians are not all cool, polite, smart people who have read extensively and think about things deeply

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Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
Stop calling me Canadian. I identify as American and I'm in the middle of transitioning.

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