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euphronius posted:they get an order or opinion and comply with it ? what happens if they don't comply with the order lol
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euphronius posted:they get an order or opinion and comply with it ? Lol you are either naive as gently caress or an anarchist caricature at this point.
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euphronius posted:they get an order or opinion and comply with it ? Both you and crypto are breathtakingly stupid
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Casey Finnigan posted:what happens if they don't comply with the order lol But only sociopaths would refuse to comply!!!
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mostly people follow rules because they agree that it's good to have rules which everyone at least tries to follow, even if some of those rules are not correct. it does not seem to be the case that people are constantly on the watch for situations where they can break laws with which they disagree without being punished. someone who in principle believes that sixteen-year-olds should be able to buy alcohol is certainly more likely to sell a sixteen-year-old alcohol, but most likely they won't even if the risk of being caught is minimal in the end, though, there's a fair amount of violence involved in keeping the edges from unravelling, and a great deal of implied violence keeping people from simply seceding and making their own laws. there's also violence (actual or implied) seeping in at almost every level of how those laws are formulated. it seems reasonable to argue that e.g. many kinds of property rights would be difficult to keep going without at least the threat of violence, for instance.
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putting a sign on the front door that says by breaking and entering into my home you agree to resolve the situation through binding arbitration
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cspam econ discussion of the day summarized:
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A Bakers Cousin posted:cspam econ discussion of the day summarized: THOSE ARE BAD!!!!
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euphronius posted:they get an order or opinion and comply with it ? My coworker from a former job bought debtors houses on bank mortgage auctions and got the police to evict the families if they tried to stay, hope ive helped you realize society will crush you and your family very violently if you don't have any money.
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it’s usually sheriffs that help with evictions but whatever
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Casey Finnigan posted:what happens if they don't comply with the order lol the penalty for rejection of social mores has always been deprivation of the benefits of society. cops and jails is just the most recent version of it because kicking someone out into the woods to fend for themselves and telling everyone in the area not to help them is a bit impractical now.
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euphronius posted:it’s usually sheriffs that help with evictions but whatever lmao you can just not post instead of telling on yourself like this
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euphronius posted:it’s usually sheriffs that help with evictions but whatever sheriffs are famous for never using violence
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euphronius posted:it’s usually sheriffs that help with evictions but whatever its me the cspam poster trying to split hairs between the term police and sheirff
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Stereotype posted:also deeds aren't stored only on paper lol deed is stored in the balls
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If you dont pay property taxes it takes longer but you will be thrown to the curb too. There is no escape from this, and if you try to live on the curb you will get even more violence... It's very hard to believe property is in any way fair or consensual when its so often the 1° reason for horrible poo poo happening, people getting sick, losing jobs, being evicted for late rent then dying is very very common.
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no one agrees with me it’s fine I’ll stop . sorry
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euphronius posted:no one agrees with me it’s fine I’ll stop . sorry Did this liberal seriously not understand that the monopoly on violence of the bourgeois state is the axiom upon which private property relationships exist Is this dnd or something Lmao
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i wish euph wouldn't push this issue, but he seems to want to hold on to this dispute. let's jump out of this discussion eh?euphronius posted:no one agrees with me it’s fine I’ll stop . sorry my apologies, it appears you already tapped out
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euphronius posted:no one agrees with me it’s fine I’ll stop . sorry I'm earnestly trying to educate you, but like wtf man have you ever talked to a poor person in your life?
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bagual posted:If you dont pay property taxes it takes longer but you will be thrown to the curb too. There is no escape from this, and if you try to live on the curb you will get even more violence... but have you tried giving 6-figures to your friendly congressman so he can talk about it in a hotel ballroom
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euphronius posted:Living in the USA has really broken people 1000%
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Mr Hootington posted:Why live for tomorrow when profits can be seized today.
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All of you live by my right my law
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euphronius posted:a deed is a document that is a reflection of grant by the crown to some rights in land that is recognized by the courts. the various rituals around the deed protect its authenticity but they mostly exist - as used - as reproduced images . that’s it I know someone who threw out a few dozen original mortgage documents on accident once Had to write a whole bunch of lost note affidavits
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I spent the night in Telluride CO because I was heading north from Santa Fe and let me tell you something, there is absolutely no economic problem there. best thing was watching four guys talking about "luxury boats and their 4,000 square foot houses" get openly mocked by the bartender and three "assumingly" blue collar workers getting drunk at the bar.
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Jabronie posted:Marx failed to predict the revolution never starting since we ran out of pamphlet paper. The Collapse of European Trotskyism
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Forseti posted:You could get a guide certification and be a guide for a living. Probably pays pretty poo poo though if I had to guess. drat dude, you might be on to something. I asked my case manager at VAC about that on a whim today, and as long as the career ultimately pays 66 and 2/3rds my military pay, they’ll cover a semester of climbing school the same way they cover a semester of anything else. I just got back from Jasper again, I’m reluctant to climb in the states because of Covid. When I did Wapta last year, two people have to get Air MEDEVAC because they developed Covid symptoms once they got about 10k ft . If anyone was ever curious about it, this is another thing that Covid and the poo poo economy have made cheaper than I’ve ever seen it. Two other covid/poo poo economy side effects: No international travel means that you aren’t competing with Chinese tourists, but Edmonton and Calgary office workers have decided to just climb on a whim and rescues are through the roof. How has covid hosed up climbing in the states? Is everything inexpensive there right now too?
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someone should really finish and layout the rules of acquisition completely. At this point Americans are ferrengi.
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Xeom posted:someone should really finish and layout the rules of acquisition completely. At this point Americans are ferrengi.
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Fame Douglas posted:Yeah, how would you buy a Fiat car without it? Fiat makes shitboxes.
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smug jeebus posted:Just because people happily follow the rules most of the time doesn't mean that they aren't still ultimately backed up by force, regardless of country. goddamn the systems of consent are backed by the systems of coercion, that's the dialectic of capitalism baby
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I talked to two separate people today at my warehouse who are voluntarily picking up extra shifts and working 7 day 60 hour weeks so they could put more money into the stock market. Number looking strong!
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V. Illych L. posted:i don't know why the concept of fiat currency is so difficult to get for people
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Xeom posted:someone should really finish and layout the rules of acquisition completely. At this point Americans are ferrengi. Ferengi canonically took 50% more history to reach FTL travel than humans, due in part to being as a society unwilling to take serious risks with their planetary ecology (there’s no profit in Ferenginar becoming uninhabitable). it’s a pretty silly story conceit but it does allow me to point out that Ferengi are better than Americans in almost every way
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Forseti posted:You could get a guide certification and be a guide for a living. Probably pays pretty poo poo though if I had to guess. yeah there's a joke in the outdoor community, what's the difference between a mountain guide and a large pizza? the pizza can feed a family of four guiding work is highly seasonal and pretty demanding, both in physical ability and skills. you've got to constantly be doing trainings, keeping first aid certs up, etc. which all cost money and you need a ton of expensive gear to get started and get experience. a lot of guides basically live out of their van and do ski patrol in colorado/wyoming resorts during the winter and then mountain guiding on rainier and other popular peaks in the summer. it pays poo poo but it's a super alternative lifestyle where you'll never have a pencil pusher boss on your back. it's stressful in other ways though as you're responsible for people in very dangerous places and constantly have to be on alert for your and their lives--kind of like watching a toddler edit: the better move is to find work at an outdoor gear company like REI, MSR, outdoor research, etc. there's a ton more options for real work that can sustain a person, and all of your coworkers, bosses, etc. are outdoor freaks too who just want to get out and get at it mod sassinator has issued a correction as of 02:49 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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a_gelatinous_cube posted:I talked to two separate people today at my warehouse who are voluntarily picking up extra shifts and working 7 day 60 hour weeks so they could put more money into the stock market. Number looking strong! it’s called hustle, baby
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