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Makes a lot of sense that around the 19th/early 20th century the army was complaining that they couldn't get any recruits that passed the bare minimum of physical standards.
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“The Age of Optimism” Good luck with that mate
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Need some advice on a bit of a moral dilemma. Friends have been a bit “well, gently caress ‘em” and I’m hoping the thread has a more balanced view. This reads as a bit of a humblebrag so please start any replies by saying how great I am, then probably come back to it at the end and say it again. The Dilemma We live in a pretty poor area. Every year my wife and I coordinate with a couple of local schools (generally different each year) to make sure that kids that would have literally gently caress all on Christmas Day have got a couple of presents to open, some decent grub, whatever. The only ‘rules’ we impose are in asking the school to help identify kids who need it, and for the school to work with the parents so any gifts come from them not the school or us randos. Last year one of the schools wrote to say thanks and they were going to buy a book for every kid in the school. I went back and said books are great, and sharing equally is great, but if you remember our conversation that’s not quite what we were going for. The head seemed to understand but then shortly after Christmas I found out the school did use the donation to buy all the kids a book, as a gift from the school, and linked it back to good behaviour at some event they’d held earlier in the year. Now the same school have reached out and asked if we’d like to make a Christmas donation again. Don’t wanna! Loads of other schools in the area who’d be happy for such a donation. But (1) when you donate money, it’s not yours any more, and you shouldn’t put limits on what the recipient does with it, and (2) the piss-poor kids I see walking past my window in the morning will still at least be getting something. Any advice please?
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Angepain posted:I appreciated this reference. Same, it was a good one
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Sanford posted:Now the same school have reached out and asked if we’d like to make a Christmas donation again. Don’t wanna! Loads of other schools in the area who’d be happy for such a donation. But (1) when you donate money, it’s not yours any more, and you shouldn’t put limits on what the recipient does with it, and (2) the piss-poor kids I see walking past my window in the morning will still at least be getting something. Edit: If you wanted to, there’s probably other local charities that would be helping some of those kids as well? Or, if you think it would be well-received you could gently explain to the school why you don’t feel able to work with them this year, and hopefully they’ll be able to work with you again next year? TACD fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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Sanford posted:Need some advice on a bit of a moral dilemma. Friends have been a bit “well, gently caress ‘em” and I’m hoping the thread has a more balanced view. This reads as a bit of a humblebrag so please start any replies by saying how great I am, then probably come back to it at the end and say it again. I'd personally give the school the donation again. I can also see where the school is coming from because they might not want to tell a kid that they are poor and therefore deserving of charity, whilst the other kids in their class aren't. That's the sort of thing that can both knock a child's confidence and make them a target of bullying. It also opens the can of worms of a parent rejecting the gift because they don't want to be a "charity case".
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you're trying to donate to kids in need so they can have a good Christmas. the school is merely an intermediary
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That head teacher sounds like a right bell-end tbh, taking a gift from the community on trust and making it into a reward for good behaviour, as if it's at their gift whether kids "deserve" to have a nice Christmas or not I'd give the money somewhere else, it's not like you can give to everyone so the place where your donation will be administered by a confirmed bell-end is low priority imo. What I used to do when I had more disposable income was send cool toys to whatever Christmas present appeals I could google up, and just phone up food banks in poor areas saying "hey if I send you a hamper or 2 full of nice Christmas stuff can you please give them to families who might have a poo poo Christmas otherwise", which they were always very cool with. No idea who the stuff ended up with, but that's not up to me, all you can do at the end of the day is try to do something nice. Which you did.
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What are your blokes thoughts on the Queen withdrawing from the Glasgow climate summit due to health reasons
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Oct 27, 2021 09:10
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the Queen withdrawing from the Glasgow health summit due to health reasons SOON
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a pipe smoking dog posted:I'd personally give the school the donation again. Parents have to apply for their child to be registered as Pupil Premium, however children often don't know they are. As a school it wouldn't be that hard to have the conversation with parents of those students explaining the situation and seeing if they were interested. Some might say no because they don't want to be a charity case, but some would definitely accept.
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the Queen withdrawing from the Glasgow climate summit due to health reasons
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the Queen withdrawing from the Glasgow climate summit due to health reasons Lucky that she hasn't already died otherwise Charles would be there going full ecofash.
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Fundraising guidelines generally hold that charities and trusts should be cautious of accepting conditional gifts that are costly to administer. If the condition turns out to be too onerous, one should return the gift rather than redirect it. On the receiving side, I think it'd depend on the sums involved - the school would have to ask staff to administer a condition that is quite time-consuming and sensitive; one has to reach out to every parent involved - rather than just tossing funds into the bulk purchase form If it's in the ballpark of £100 per child or less, it seems reasonable for the school to turn a conditional gift down or to gently suggest that the donor administer it another way. Schools are not the only trusts with lists of locally deprived households. To just return with a nuh-uh how about our Christmas whip-around? form letter seems a touch rude though.
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Sad Panda posted:Parents have to apply for their child to be registered as Pupil Premium, however children often don't know they are. As a school it wouldn't be that hard to have the conversation with parents of those students explaining the situation and seeing if they were interested. Some might say no because they don't want to be a charity case, but some would definitely accept. "Pupil Premium" is such a loving terrible, soul-sucking horror of a name for quote:The pupil premium was in the 2010 Liberal Democrat manifesto 
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Sanford posted:Need some advice on a bit of a moral dilemma. Friends have been a bit “well, gently caress ‘em” and I’m hoping the thread has a more balanced view. This reads as a bit of a humblebrag so please start any replies by saying how great I am, then probably come back to it at the end and say it again. any book you get from a school, especially one that lies to charity donors, is probably boring shite anyway so dont feel bad not funding whatever indoctrinating crap they would have pedalled out this year.
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Marmaduke! posted:I will be immensely displeased if all this Literal poo poo doesn't lead to a tabloid headline of "Poo Turn" U-bend
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Gorn Myson posted:Shes one of the top five hottest British women ever (in no particular order; Maggie Thatcher, Barbara Windsor, Theresa May, Kirstie Allsopp and Queen Liz) but its highly likely that only two of them are still alive. Listen I know you're doing a bit but if you ever, ever, ever diss the sainted Barb again - even by association like this - there will be consequences. TBH I only want an excuse to post this, the most East End picture of all time:  (Local legend has it that Princess Margaret was on the piss with the Kray brothers in the pub opposite while this pic was taken - it's *probably* not true, but she definitely did enjoy a quick G&T at their club in Soho, and did also pull out of attending this, the premiere of Sparrows Can't Sing, at very short notice) goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the Queen withdrawing from the Glasgow climate summit due to health reasons Im increasingly thinking they'll shaft us on the coronation bank holiday by either holding it in y an existing holiday or using it a smoke screen to finally abolish may day
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I'm reminded that Orwell said that one of the few uses of constitutional monarchy was that it provides a relief valve for fascism by giving people a couple of days off to wave flags and sign in a fairly benign way. If it can't do either of those then it's finally devoid of whatever little use it had left and people will start to see that.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:On the other hand, it is very very very very funny when fash get outed and lose their job. I suppose the real complication is if you're saying it in a way that easily ties you back to that employer - most people have their employer name in their FB profiles, which sort of makes it their problem if you start posting a Minion saying the 14 words. Funny though it is to see fascists get owned, I'm extremely uncomfortable with the trend of supposed left wingers going round to their political opponents' employers and trying to get them fired. Socialists should never be siding with bosses against workers however awful they are, that misses the whole point of class politics. If you want to give them a kicking give them a kicking, don't go tattling to their manager. Completely counterproductive, handing more power to bosses, whatever reason you have for doing it.
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If it had just been that they gave as the school, I'd probably give again. But to make it a reward for good behaviour instead of a gift? That's soul-destroying in my opinion, and the school would get nothing from me. There must be other good causes you could give to.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Im increasingly thinking they'll shaft us on the coronation bank holiday by either holding it in y an existing holiday or using it a smoke screen to finally abolish may day Businesses have already planned in for the extra jubilee holiday next year. If Brenda dies before then I bet they just have the coronation on June 3rd, and not have to make any changes.
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ThomasPaine posted:Funny though it is to see fascists get owned, I'm extremely uncomfortable with the trend of supposed left wingers going round to their political opponents' employers and trying to get them fired. Socialists should never be siding with bosses against workers however awful they are, that misses the whole point of class politics. If you want to give them a kicking give them a kicking, don't go tattling to their manager. Completely counterproductive, handing more power to bosses, whatever reason you have for doing it. In fairness it's mostly the libs who do all the legwork there - after all demanding to see the manager is very much their thing.
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The school absolutely misappropriated your moneyz but ronya makes a fair point about burdensome administration, and you should just give to local shelters or kids charities instead
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the Queen withdrawing from the Glasgow climate summit due to health reasons
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Donate toys to your local food bank, they know exactly which kids have nowt.
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Sanford posted:Any advice please? Could you not get in touch with the parents directly? Put a sign up at the local community centre/food bank saying you're willing to help out financially at Christmas and set up a specific email address for them to get in contact with you. You'd have to deal with the (probably miserable) task of trying to screen out chancers yourself, but at least it cuts out the middle man.
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the Queen withdrawing from the Glasgow climate summit due to health reasons The queen is going to be a key part of our carbon sequestration program
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Hmmm, having read the other replies, yeah its a bit weird to sort of be lord of the manor-ishly calling the those chosen local headmasters and mistressess to your annual banquet where you inform them of how they shall be distributing your generous donations this year. Which is how I imagine it all happened.
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the Queen withdrawing from the Glasgow climate summit due to health reasons Would you like to hear my thoughts about dickheads who pop into the thread once a week demanding takes on subjects that have been discussed to death in the preceding pages? Particularly when they use language that suggests the nearest they've been to a British person is glancing at the cover of a Guy Ritchie DVD?
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The school using the donation to pick and choose which children to reward makes me think yeah you would be entirely reasonable to find other places to send your money.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Would you like to hear my thoughts about dickheads who pop into the thread once a week demanding takes on subjects that have been discussed to death in the preceding pages? Particularly when they use language that suggests the nearest they've been to a British person is glancing at the cover of a Guy Ritchie DVD? goddamnedtwisto what's your thoughts on London
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Whatup my good blokes
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:goddamnedtwisto what's your thoughts on London you've got to more specific, London as in within the M25 or London as in the historic boroughs?
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OwlFancier posted:The school using the donation to pick and choose which children to reward makes me think yeah you would be entirely reasonable to find other places to send your money. I think he meant they gave every child the present only telling them it had been for good behaviour.
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Wizard Master posted:What are your blokes thoughts on the Queen withdrawing from the Glasgow climate summit due to health reasons The short term goal is to limit her temperature rise to 1.5 C but the medium term goal is to lower the temperature by at least 20 degrees.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I think he meant they gave every child the present only telling them it had been for good behaviour. Classic Santa Claus bullshit
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