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https://www.microcenter.com/product/641915/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-32ghz-sixteen-core-lga-1700-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included no online pre-orders
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Buy whatever toy you want to buy. It’s generally not the greatest to buy in on the very first launch of a new memory standard though. I spent like $250 to get 16gb of 2400mhz ddr4 at the Skylake launch, lol.
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Oct 27, 2021 17:35
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Oh my god they're showing off Alder Lake on an Alienware Aurora 
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Oct 27, 2021 17:38
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Just dumping liquid nitrogen all over the place
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Oct 27, 2021 17:41
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WhyteRyce posted:Just dumping liquid nitrogen all over the place This is great
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Oct 27, 2021 17:43
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Yeah this is a lot better than "you can literally see it!" and "back to you Steve"
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Oct 27, 2021 17:44
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love to use my 2-in-1 laptop with the keyboard key-side on a table
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Oct 27, 2021 17:48
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I swear they dusted off some drone from BKs old stash, mounted a new camera on it, and had some intern fly it around to stream this whole thing
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So UK pricing has a 5900X more or less bang on halfway between the i7-12700 and i9-12900 lines. I've be thinking about switching from a 1700 to a 5900X so I won't complain if the prize drops in response. I don't think I'd switch to 12th Gen Intel for a mix of platform costs and zero desire to switch to W11 at this point (and it sounds like W11 is needed for optimum big/little scheduling). Pablo Bluth fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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Oct 27, 2021 17:54
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"We are going to break the overclocking LIVE" "Uh, ok we are having a problem so let's come back in a bit" ... "So we had a problem but don't worry we already broke the record off camera before don't worry we'll post the results" https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1453403632347586565
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Oct 27, 2021 18:03
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Oct 27, 2021 18:10
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LRADIKAL posted:Nice lack of PPE. you can pour liquid nitrogen on your bare hand and be totally fine. its a fav trick of extreme OC folks to do on livestreams.
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Oct 27, 2021 18:25
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if you really wanted to be worried about LN2, you should be most worried about getting it in your shoe. Transient contact is.... fine, but it's when that poo poo pools that you get the injuries. Back on topic: Did Intel have nothing to say about Alder Lake-M? SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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Oct 27, 2021 18:39
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I'm less worried for their safety than just the weird lack of it for image/liability issues.
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Oct 27, 2021 19:02
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Presentation already over? I miss anything good? Looking at Linus Tech Tips latest video, they're thinking that Intel benchmarked against AMD while AMD was having the WIN11 performance issues? Hughmoris fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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Oct 27, 2021 19:09
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Hughmoris posted:Presentation already over? I miss anything good? You missed some very awkward, non-stage type people (aka regular humans) try to do a presentation and went about as could be expected. Whenever AMD/Intel/Nvidia do a presentation, you realize how much effort Apple must put in. Pretty much all of the content was "leaked" already. Completely ignore any benchmarks that any of the companies provide. The CPUs are in peoples hands so were gonna see a ton of leaks, and then real reviews on 11/4.
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Oct 27, 2021 19:33
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BurritoJustice posted:The top 96eu model which is in Tigerlake sees a healthy performance boost with LPDDR4X-4266 over DDR4-3200 so I imagine it'll be even better once they throw some DDR5-4800 or LPDDR5-6400 at it. Yeah, I was just hoping they'd take the opportunity from going to like 4800 Gbps minimum to make a monster igpu so I can finally live out my gaming on an ultra portable dream. Ah well, there's always next gen.
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Oct 27, 2021 20:36
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VorpalFish posted:Yeah, I was just hoping they'd take the opportunity from going to like 4800 Gbps minimum to make a monster igpu so I can finally live out my gaming on an ultra portable dream. Ah well, there's always next gen. https://youtu.be/Gz8Aj-6nb08 
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Oct 27, 2021 20:48
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:125w even on the midrange parts lol I try to understand the AnAndTech article as well but holy hell 125 watts is going to double as a space heater.
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Oct 27, 2021 20:49
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:I try to understand the AnAndTech article as well but holy hell 125 watts is going to double as a space heater.
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Oct 27, 2021 21:55
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Cygni posted:wait until you hear about GPUs my man I know GPUs are hot too but I don't need anymore heat!
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Cygni posted:wait until you hear about GPUs my man The most common GPU according to the steam surveys is actually about that.
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Oct 27, 2021 22:07
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:I try to understand the AnAndTech article as well but holy hell 125 watts is going to double as a space heater. e: it's super hard to find actual undervolting/underclocking perf/watt benchmarks. Most people are just doing the other undervolt to oc thing. I was going to post a graph but I can't find any. Khorne fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Oct 27, 2021 |
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Oct 27, 2021 22:11
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hobbesmaster posted:The most common GPU according to the steam surveys is actually about that. Fair enough, but thats also a 5.5 year old part.  Lowest power draw in the 30 series is 170w at the moment, but i guess we alo never actually got the full 30 series including the low end because well... you know...
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Oct 27, 2021 22:25
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Khorne posted:I bet you can undervolt/underclock and get crazy power efficiency. Most modern CPUs are like this because people just don't care about power consumption but do care about X% faster or BIG CLOCK NUMBER. 5950x draws 100w-125w depending on auto oc settings but if you are running it 24/7 for compute you're better off undervolting/underclocking and taking a ~15% performance hit to draw <=60w at full load. Is it possible to also do this on the GPU as well? I'd take a 15% performance hit if it works out -
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:I try to understand the AnAndTech article as well but holy hell 125 watts is going to double as a space heater. I don't understand where this incredulity is coming from - 125w has been Intel's tdp rating on every k series sku for the last like 5 years. There will be 65w rated non k skus almost certainly. 125w is also lower than every Ryzen chip out of the box except the 5600x (141w), and should be easily handled by a budget tower cooler in a case with decent airflow. The real insane power draw comes when the motherboard is set to ignore power limits, either intentionally or as a manufacturer default. Those short duration limits look nuts though. Hopefully someone reviews them with Intel spec power limits applied and a cooler that isn't a huge aio to see how that plays in the real world.
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Oct 27, 2021 23:06
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Cygni posted:ROG boards have "leaked": $440 preorder
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VorpalFish posted:I don't understand where this incredulity is coming from - 125w has been Intel's tdp rating on every k series sku for the last like 5 years. There will be 65w rated non k skus almost certainly. 5800x, 5900x, 5950x are all 105W. You can certainly pump more than that in but that’s the limit out of the box.
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Oct 27, 2021 23:54
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Intel, like AMD, is doing the sliding memory spec thing now. DDR5-3600 at CL40 might be pretty brutal compared to DDR4. There arent many dual rank dimms announced yet, but Crucial does have some 32gb dual rank sticks on newegg. Hope someone gets em to test how bad the controller chokes in reality. Both AMD and Intel are generally pretty conservative with the supported spec, but we shall see.
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hobbesmaster posted:5800x, 5900x, 5950x are all 105W. AMDs tdp ratings aren't strict power limits like Intel's which is why you can't directly compare. The equivalent value for AMD would be the PPT, which is 142w for the 105w tdp chips and 88w for the 65w chips.
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VorpalFish posted:AMDs tdp ratings aren't strict power limits like Intel's which is why you can't directly compare. The equivalent value for AMD would be the PPT, which is 142w for the 105w tdp chips and 88w for the 65w chips. As a 5600X owner, I'm reasonably sure the stock PPT for it is somewhere in the mid to upper 70s. You can increase it with the press of a button in Ryzen Master. You get like 98% of all the performance you're going to get out of the chip by the time you hit 90w though. (And 90% of the performance at 75w)
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:As a 5600X owner, I'm reasonably sure the stock PPT for it is somewhere in the mid to upper 70s. You can increase it with the press of a button in Ryzen Master. You get like 98% of all the performance you're going to get out of the chip by the time you hit 90w though. (And 90% of the performance at 75w) PPT is 88 watts stock for the 5600x https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-zen-3-review/3 What you're observing is the 5600X doesn't actually need the full power limit to hit its stock all core max turbo frequency in most workloads. That's not the case with the other chips; my 5800x will happily pull 142w in cinebench all day long stock if I let it (I manually dropped PPT to 105w for noise/sff reasons).
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5700G is a little different because it’s monolithic, and this could vary across tasks (perhaps being a compute heavy task saturates the cores earlier) but the difference between 60W and 82W is like 7% or something and almost all of that is between 60W and 70W, going from 70W to 82w is like a 1% difference. IF adds a power floor and I’m definitely sure it curves upwards at a lower wattage than the enthusiast chips but the curve definitely gets steep at the top, you burn a ton of extra power for very little gain.
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VorpalFish posted:PPT is 88 watts stock for the 5600x No, that's not what I'm observing. Hammering the 5600X with Prime95 causes it to boost well under the max clock of 4600mhz across all cores. The default PPT as per Ryzen Master is 76 watts. 
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:No, that's not what I'm observing. Hammering the 5600X with Prime95 causes it to boost well under the max clock of 4600mhz across all cores. The default PPT as per Ryzen Master is 76 watts. Welp, can't argue with that - I'm wrong on the 5600X. Definitely not on the 5800X though, here's ryzen master if I disable PBO and run cinebench:  edit: ok timg hates me and doesn't work, pew pew pew. VorpalFish fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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Oct 28, 2021 01:26
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What's ETA for the non-Ks? I'm a cheapest i5 SKU kind of guy who is very ready for an upgrade. On DDR4 of course.
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The 12400 wasn't even mentioned by Intel today. They'll probably stealth drop it on some random day without giving it to press first like they did with the 11400.
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Twerk from Home posted:What's ETA for the non-Ks? I'm a cheapest i5 SKU kind of guy who is very ready for an upgrade. On DDR4 of course. Non K isn't going to be until next year Also I feel like its gonna succ because the i5-12400 is only going to have 6 P cores and no e cores Like I'm sure there's gonna be a performance uplift if you throw a gaming benchmark at it compared to a 10400 or whatever but the whole point of Alder Lake is the wombo-combo of cores!
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gradenko_2000 posted:Non K isn't going to be until next year I mean it's perfect if you were already looking at an 11400 or 5600X
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You're still getting an IPC uplift, so yeah, I'd expect something akin to 5600X performance but for $200 or less.
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