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josh04 posted:It's working about as well as every other attempt to ape what works for the Tories, you say? Well Starmer has just got covid so...
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This sewage thing, has there been a recent change in volumes discharged or is this a weird tipping point when people overnight become deeply opposed to something that's been happening since humans built houses. Mild legislation in the Environment Bill causing the public to demand much more stringent legislation on something they previously hadn't bothered about.
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Endjinneer posted:This sewage thing, has there been a recent change in volumes discharged or is this a weird tipping point when people overnight become deeply opposed to something that's been happening since humans built houses. As far back as I remember Southend beach has always been a no-go for swimming. Maybe it is a lot worse right now?
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Endjinneer posted:This sewage thing, has there been a recent change in volumes discharged or is this a weird tipping point when people overnight become deeply opposed to something that's been happening since humans built houses.
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fuctifino posted:It sadly is expensive (£150 erk), but I think it's worth it. If you do get one, check out vapefiend and use the code '420' - it'll save you enough to also get the stand for it, so you can have it permanently positioned over a bong. Reading your bongventures makes me imagine you as some kind of 40k tech priest with a giant smoking apparatus on their back and tubes hardwired into their nose and mouth.
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Incase people didnt watch this its 500quid a pop per week per gazebo to rent. One little centre in bumfuck nowhere has two, so multiply by however many hundreds (?) of such sites there are nationwide. Looks like any old nobody can rent one for around 100-150quid a week so with much bigger buying power and long term you would expect that to be alot lower. or you could buy one once for 300quid that looks about equivalent. So in a year that one centre spent 52 grand on 600quids worth of tent.
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fuckin gobshite wains runnin about with shitey arses parents can't afford nappies FUCKIN SHITEY-ARSE CHANCELLOR MORE LIKE  EH!?!?!?
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Sanford, the book school isn't cool. Everyone knows the kids with the worst home lives have the worst behaviour, so all their prizes were doing is rewarding children with stable home lives for being lucky. Some local charities allow children who are refugees/in domestic violence shelters/emergency accommodation etc to choose a gift, and people can choose to buy a specific present for a specific child. Also, because nobody else has, I'm going to say you're doing a wonderful thing and you are Good People.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Incase people didnt watch this its 500quid a pop per week per gazebo to rent. One little centre in bumfuck nowhere has two, so multiply by however many hundreds (?) of such sites there are nationwide. Looks like any old nobody can rent one for around 100-150quid a week so with much bigger buying power and long term you would expect that to be alot lower. or you could buy one once for 300quid that looks about equivalent. So in a year that one centre spent 52 grand on 600quids worth of tent. Not even £300. I bought a 3*3 gazebo this summer for fudge trading purposes; really nice top of the range model with canvas sides, not plastic. For all of £200.
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Camrath posted:Not even £300. I bought a 3*3 gazebo this summer for fudge trading purposes; really nice top of the range model with canvas sides, not plastic. For all of £200. pack the fudge in and start renting out the gazebo, theres 26 grand.
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Hard to watch the smug cuntery of James O Galaxy Brain, but it is always worth reminding oneself how many billions are being creamed off into the pockets of the Rees-Moggs of the UK while several hundred thousand UKians are dead. Astounding shock doctrine stuff really, bit Orwellian innit
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It really is loving appalling how transparent the grift is... And how gently caress all can be done about it. In more entertaining news the wife got a very official looking letter from the USA today. She opened it with dread to find a cheque for $1400 from Biden for covid hardship. Apparently there's another $1800 worth of them floating around somewhere. Absolutely crazy.
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Invest it in gazebos now.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Incase people didnt watch this its 500quid a pop per week per gazebo to rent. One little centre in bumfuck nowhere has two, so multiply by however many hundreds (?) of such sites there are nationwide. Looks like any old nobody can rent one for around 100-150quid a week so with much bigger buying power and long term you would expect that to be alot lower. or you could buy one once for 300quid that looks about equivalent. So in a year that one centre spent 52 grand on 600quids worth of tent. Learning about how the NHS is expected to rent equipment from private companies rather than just buy them themselves is wild. So much money wasted renting something over the course of a year that you could buy and sell for substantially less. But that's the point, innit?
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fuctifino posted:loving hell... Bit harsh on Goebbels that.
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Huh, I've discovered something about (modern) TV Detector Vans that I hadn't previously known, and I need to do a bit of digging because lol if it's true.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Huh, I've discovered something about (modern) TV Detector Vans that I hadn't previously known, and I need to do a bit of digging because lol if it's true. That they don't exist?
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forkboy84 posted:Bit harsh on Goebbels that. loving lol 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Huh, I've discovered something about (modern) TV Detector Vans that I hadn't previously known, and I need to do a bit of digging because lol if it's true. Theyre this but also teslas? 
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Gonzo McFee posted:That they don't exist? That's the thing, they (might) actually, sort of, exist in that there is a van that can be used to detect stray emissions from a television.
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Endjinneer posted:This sewage thing, has there been a recent change in volumes discharged or is this a weird tipping point when people overnight become deeply opposed to something that's been happening since humans built houses. Combined Sewer Overflows discharging sewage into rivers have been a thing since public sewers was first put in place. How it's supposed to work is that if storm drains directly feed into the sewer system, you can't control the amount of water going in to the sewers when it rains, so you have to store the excess water while you process it. If the storage fills up, it's a choice between allowing (rain water diluted) sewage into rivers, or allowing that same sewage to back up the system and come out of the toilets and drains in people's homes. The first option is the less bad of the two. Water companies are regulated monopolies, and Ofwat sets the amount of money that can be invested in their waste networks, sets performance targets, and sets the profits that the companies are allowed to make and return to their investors. Upgrading the national sewer systems is a possibility, and Ofwat could increase the amount that the water companies are allowed to spend on upgrading sewers and treatment works to fix the issue. This is such an eye-wateringly large amount that no government has approved it. There's a load of other work that can be done to reduce the amount of water that flows into sewers by, for example, not tarmaccing over every bit of green space in the country, and allowing water to soak into the ground. This requires private enterprise (outside of the water industry, even) to invest in something that doesn't make profit, however.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:That's the thing, they (might) actually, sort of, exist in that there is a van that can be used to detect stray emissions from a television. Can it distinguish between a TV being used as a TV and a TV being used as a computer monitor?
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goddamnedtwisto posted:That's the thing, they (might) actually, sort of, exist in that there is a van that can be used to detect stray emissions from a television. This isn’t the bollocks they came out with a while back about them being able to tell what you’re watching from the light pattens bouncing through your curtains is it?
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smellmycheese posted:This isn’t the bollocks they came out with a while back about them being able to tell what you’re watching from the light pattens bouncing through your curtains is it? It is this, but in particular it's (supposed) actual proof of it in use and a description of the technique used.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It is this, but in particular it's (supposed) actual proof of it in use and a description of the technique used. Whatever form these detector vans took, surely the proof would be in the courtcases where their evidence was used to convict illegal tv watchers? Then we'd all know?
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Would be impressed to discover that the TV man was harnessing gravitational lensing to bend the light emanating from my TV at the back of the house on to the main street at the front of my house
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smellmycheese posted:This isn’t the bollocks they came out with a while back about them being able to tell what you’re watching from the light pattens bouncing through your curtains is it? How does that prove anything though. You could be watching the sketchy porn VHS's you bought down the sunday market, not anything broadcast.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Whatever form these detector vans took, surely the proof would be in the courtcases where their evidence was used to convict illegal tv watchers? Then we'd all know? No, because this is covert surveillance as defined by RIPA so isn't admissible as direct evidence in court. It's part of the evidence gathering used to obtain a search warrant for a house - it's a bit of weird legal tap-dancing around the fact that you can't use, say, that Fingers overheard the Malloys talking about the Post Office job in the Feathers as evidence to convict the Malloys but you *can* use that as evidence for a search warrant for the Malloy's house to see if you can find the shooters and the 2 grand they got away with. (Well technically you *could* use that overheard conversation as part of your case but it'd almost certainly get thrown out by the judge apart from in very narrow circumstances).
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And they bother to do this to fit out special vans for the one in a million shot those weird lights on the curtains are eastenders? And they get the warrants on the basis? Surely the tech used to obtain the warrants must have been proven at some point in a publicly known way? Otherwise why don't judges just issue out search warrants on the grounds of arcane magics?
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the whole concept of detector vans is extremely Scarfolk when you think about it
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ThomasPaine posted:the whole concept of Britain is extremely Scarfolk when you think about it
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RDevz posted:Combined Sewer Overflows Well yeah, this is the funny thing. In the UK we've been doing a shitload of work on reducing CSOs since the Sustainable Drainage came along in about 2004 and started being really enforced about 10 years ago. Then the nasty EU forced us to eliminate a load of nearshore outfalls with the Water Framework Directive in about 2015. Your chances of floating past a turd at Scarborough have never been smaller. My theory is that water pollution is easy to get a revolting photo of. Everyone in the UK has at least one treasured memory of the seaside and having looked at those photos is now feeling like they want a really long shower. It's right that people are angry about sewage dumping but when does that revulsion/outrage kick in? It worked to turn people against animal testing for example. Not pheasant hunting though.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Otherwise why don't judges just issue out search warrants on the grounds of arcane magics?
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fuctifino posted:loving hell... The previous Public Appointments Commissioner seemed like a good chap who would try amd keep the worst of the worst away from these kinds of positions. His tenure ended just one month ago, and if you want a good fright this Halloween look up his replacement William Shawcross. Big fan of torture, apparently, and just the guy our overlords would love to have rubber stamping their decision making.
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The TV detection vans were just empty vans with a huge antenna that someone inside could spin around. While you could theoretically establish someone might have an old CRT TV running by using very sensitive antennas and equipment, not a single UK court case or search warrant application has ever included such evidence in the decades these vans have been operating. It's pure intimidation tactics. Having the vans noisily sitting in streets and estates scared people into purchasing licenses. Most people ended up being prosecuted by admitting to watching TV without a license when the licensing people knocked on their doors.
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Oops, I thought I'd posted this in this thread... so cross posting from the GBS weed threadfuctifino posted:Time to start poking the hornet's nest again:
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fuctifino posted:Oops, I thought I'd posted this in this thread... so cross posting from the GBS weed thread look mate you were buying your weed from crooks before, whats the problem?
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