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Oct 28, 2021 16:50
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Please progressives kill the bill It's likely at this point. House Progressives aren't budging because Manchin/Sinema released half-rear end statements. https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1453747491413843975
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Oct 28, 2021 16:57
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Very tight, either the progressives back it and the DNC attempts to primary them all, or they don't back it and also the DNC attempts to primary them all just with different messaging
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Oct 28, 2021 17:35
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Paid parental leave has been axed from the senate bill. Progressives are looking to tank the infrastructure vote in the house as Manchin and Sinema have not yet formally agreed to the reconciliation bill. Obama is making statements about how better things are wanted and were promised but just aren’t possible.
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Oct 28, 2021 17:35
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Progressives need to take the "my way or the highway" power than Manchin and Sinema have right now away and use it themselves. Edit: I know the difference is that progressives actually want to do things, and everyone else is fine with doing nothing. A Bad Poster fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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Oct 28, 2021 17:41
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https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/1453724741441757188
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Oct 28, 2021 18:07
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I just read a book on Carter and getting vibes of when in the late 70s Dems had large majorities in both houses and Ted wanted national coverage but Carter wanted more limited catastrophic coverage and in the end nothing happened. Carter was/is ethical and did a lot for human rights but dammit he stunk at messaging and working with congress. Also learned when Carter welcomed Reagan to the White House post-election he was concerned when briefing him that he wasn't paying attention or taking notes, and when Carter mentioned South Korea cracking down on protestors being an issue Reagan wished America had more of an ability to shutter campuses during unrest, which Carter found unsettling.
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Oct 28, 2021 18:09
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Biden wants to force Stanta to be first in line for mandatory gender re-assignment?
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Oct 28, 2021 18:28
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I don’t mind my tax dollars going to health services but I have to draw the line at $130bn for a single person. Is this for all mall Santas? That is more agreeable.
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Oct 28, 2021 18:29
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boop the snoot posted:I don’t mind my tax dollars going to health services but I have to draw the line at $130bn for a single person. You pay $130bn in tax?!?!
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Oct 28, 2021 18:34
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:You pay $130bn in tax?!?! He owes $130bn in tax, they put him on an installment plan.
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Oct 28, 2021 18:39
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facialimpediment posted:It's likely at this point. House Progressives aren't budging because Manchin/Sinema released half-rear end statements. Honestly starting to wonder if most Ds are homeopaths given how much they love watering down bills.  
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Oct 28, 2021 18:52
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https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1453754525593051140?t=LSqJnq9pyo_ysfZp1I-_Nw&s=19 https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1453738122022248454?t=8P0TNHZaFuYLjhWNOCGp3Q&s=19
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Oct 28, 2021 19:00
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Meeting the chuds in the middle and hating nancy pelosi
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Oct 28, 2021 19:07
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Congress needs a firm retirement age. gently caress this olds running everything from the crypt bullshit.
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Oct 28, 2021 19:10
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Welp 24h after my Moderna booster (on top of J&J) other than a slightly sore arm where I got the shot the only side effect I've had is some slight joint pain in my elbow. A+ would vaxx again.
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Oct 28, 2021 19:14
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Zamujasa posted:Honestly starting to wonder if most Ds are homeopaths given how much they love watering down bills. Neither bill is really that bad, it's just particularly stupid that they're not better because of imaginary debt concerns and stupid self-negotiation. Everyone likes the base infrastructure bill, everyone likes what's in the reconciliation bill, it's just dumb that so much is missing because of CoalBaronGirlboss. But anyways, reconciliation HAS TEXT ON PAPER HOLY poo poo https://twitter.com/LauraLitvan/status/1453786036702744578 I ain't reading 2500 pages though.
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Oct 28, 2021 19:15
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facialimpediment posted:I ain't reading 2500 pages though. thats how they get ya
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Oct 28, 2021 19:23
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Aren't bills typically triple spaced, in a larger font, and full of blank pages? I feel like 2500 pages is misleading.
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Oct 28, 2021 19:24
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My Spirit Otter posted:thats how they get ya Counterpoint, this is how they get you: https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1453772988361453572 https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1453789257521315841 Fuckin destroyed democracy, killed off the news industry, and made billions of dollars just to leave us this Second Life-rear end bullshit. CRUSTY MINGE posted:Aren't bills typically triple spaced, in a larger font, and full of blank pages? I feel like 2500 pages is misleading. And yeah, Congressional bills are like triple-spaced, half-paged things written in Olde English. Edit: https://twitter.com/BrandyLJensen/status/1453791100066533381 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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Oct 28, 2021 19:29
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Reading Snow Crash and thinking "yes, this sounds like a cool and good world to live in because I would be the one who owns the cybernetic rat dogs".
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Oct 28, 2021 19:35
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Like 75% of the text of a bill is boilerplate filler bullshit that is only there to make bills sound uber complicated to make congress look like experts instead of assholes (they manage to look like inept assholes in spite of this though)
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Oct 28, 2021 19:37
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Yeah, lots of "blah blah refers to the blah blah act of 19AGGGGGHHHHH" if the forestry section up front is anything to go by.
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Oct 28, 2021 19:44
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Every section follows almost the exact same format. Once you learn how to read bills you‘ll see that a 1500 page bill is probably 100 pages of actual information. It’s frustrating to navigate and unfair to citizens imho.
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Oct 28, 2021 19:51
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boop the snoot posted:Every section follows almost the exact same format. Once you learn how to read bills you‘ll see that a 1500 page bill is probably 100 pages of actual information. It’s frustrating to navigate and unfair to citizens imho. Part of the problem is that all that text has to be legally precise for regulatory agencies to implement and courts to deal with down the line. If there was a non legally binding, non technical summary of the bill's changes prepared by an organization something like the CBO that would be a huge improvement.
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Oct 28, 2021 20:00
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boop the snoot posted:Every section follows almost the exact same format. Once you learn how to read bills you‘ll see that a 1500 page bill is probably 100 pages of actual information. It’s frustrating to navigate and unfair to citizens imho. I always thought that legislative bill formats basically have to follow the same standards as like bills posted in the late 1700s because every "may" "shall" and "must" gets millions of dollars of litigation over it. The frustration and dumb poo poo of said language is probably just a happy accident that isn't in Congress's interest to fix. Edit: efb 
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Oct 28, 2021 20:02
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Someone mentioned the VA governor’s race, anyone local have thoughts on what’s going on there? I’m suddenly getting a pile of fundraising emails about how close Mcauliffe and the actual, literal ghoul are polling.
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Oct 28, 2021 20:06
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facialimpediment posted:I always thought that legislative bill formats basically have to follow the same standards as like bills posted in the late 1700s because every "may" "shall" and "must" gets millions of dollars of litigation over it. The frustration and dumb poo poo of said language is probably just a happy accident that isn't in Congress's interest to fix. It's the natural consequence of a system designed by lawyers.
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Oct 28, 2021 20:08
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https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1453775255349207057?s=20 VR chat but its your anti-vaxx cousin sending you 3d videos of Dan Bongino
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Oct 28, 2021 20:08
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Strong 15 million merit vibes
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Oct 28, 2021 20:12
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Acebuckeye13 posted:It's the natural consequence of a system designed by lawyers. Speaking of, I have a thread for Mr. Nice! Paging Mr. Nice! to this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/thetomzone/status/1453795592463917058 https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1453798166327877632 Edit: AAAAAAAAA https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1453799150278037512 https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1409990041896591360
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Oct 28, 2021 20:12
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Icon Of Sin posted:Someone mentioned the VA governor’s race, anyone local have thoughts on what’s going on there? I’m suddenly getting a pile of fundraising emails about how close Mcauliffe and the actual, literal ghoul are polling. TL;DR: It's a clusterfuck. It's effectively a race within the margin of error and, being a VA resident, I'm just assuming Youngkin is going to win. Even up here in Northern VA, I'm seeing more Youngkin signs than McAuliffe ones. McAuliffe hosed almost every aspect of his campaign up. It's like he picked up Hillary's 2016 playbook and thought "I can't lose!"  Both candidates have been publicly and enthusiastically fellating whatever cops will endorse them, Terry seems to be squigged out by trans people, and nearly every McAuliffe "vote for me" ad until recently didn't feature him actually speaking to the voters. Youngkin clearly wants to rob the state blind but he's winning the "he seems like such a nice man" race, whereas McAuliffe is running again because like Richard Gere in Officer and a Gentleman, he's got nowhere else to go. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Oct 28, 2021 |
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Oct 28, 2021 20:14
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Whoops, meant to edit, not quote. -_-
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Oct 28, 2021 20:17
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facialimpediment posted:Speaking of, I have a thread for Mr. Nice! Paging Mr. Nice! to this twitter thread: "Based meme-bers of the jury..." *Shkreli smirk*
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Oct 28, 2021 20:27
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BIG HEADLINE posted:TL;DR: It's a clusterfuck. Yeah I am extremely disappointed that McAuliffe was what the Democratic Party decided was a compelling candidate for this one. Youngkin can eat my whole rear end but he's probably going to win.
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Oct 28, 2021 20:30
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facialimpediment posted:Counterpoint, this is how they get you: I hope Metta World Peace sues their asses off for trademark infringement
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Oct 28, 2021 20:36
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shame on an IGA posted:I hope Metta World Peace sues their asses off for trademark infringement You don't think Facebook isn't going to go after every single thing or person who uses the word "meta" going forward? Or already hasn't threatened every one of them they could find? "Sure seems like your business has a nice social media presence, would be a shame if something happened to it."
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Oct 28, 2021 20:42
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sounds like your buddy meta terrible fate, would be a shame if it happened to you
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Oct 28, 2021 20:48
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so thats what happened to Second Life
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Oct 28, 2021 21:05
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Icon Of Sin posted:Someone mentioned the VA governor’s race, anyone local have thoughts on what’s going on there? I’m suddenly getting a pile of fundraising emails about how close Mcauliffe and the actual, literal ghoul are polling. I'm in VA but haven't a clue how things are actually going. Remember that staff will exaggerate in order to drive voters. Youngkin did just get a very loud and proud Trump endorsement flyer out so that might remind "independents" what the candidate is about. I was just happy to find out I could do permanent mail-in voting.
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