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Do you think the people making up cyberpunk dystopia settings ever just look at this stuff and realize they can't come close to that level of soul-crushing?
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koshmar posted:At least there’s room for 570 surfboards That place is going to require an amazing HVAC system. In a room that small just a single human breathing, sweating, and radiating body heat will turn the place into a swamp in like 12 hours. If a couple tries to sleep in that room together the walls will be dripping. Using a PC will turn it into an oven. Even in winter it will be a total sweat lodge. I hope they spring for the mold resistant matresses.
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Oct 29, 2021 22:18
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Slanderer posted:Highlights include the Circl-Serv™ Cafeteria, free medical insurance, mandatory Water Pik® Booths, etc.. Cats and dogs will not be allowed in apartments but must be housed in the Pet Park until self-cleaning litterbox and dander-filtering technology is more advanced (not a joke). Free city services but no city taxes (because theyre baked into apartment fees i think, which is somehow not a tax). Apartments will be "renovated" in 5 minutes by means of swapping out the modular metal wall panels with ones of a different color. There is a distinct lack of soup tubes. I am disappointed.
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Oct 29, 2021 22:23
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Facebook Aunt posted:I hope they spring for the mold resistant matresses. They won't.
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Oct 29, 2021 22:23
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Facebook Aunt posted:That place is going to require an amazing HVAC system. In a room that small just a single human breathing, sweating, and radiating body heat will turn the place into a swamp in like 12 hours. If a couple tries to sleep in that room together the walls will be dripping. Using a PC will turn it into an oven. Even in winter it will be a total sweat lodge. I’ve lived in places that were only liveable in the winter because I could open the window and let in freezing air to fight the heat entering my unit from below. Ninety-four percent of these students won’t have that option.
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Oct 29, 2021 22:48
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Platystemon posted:I’ve lived in places that were only liveable in the winter because I could open the window and let in freezing air to fight the heat entering my unit from below. They didn't say the windows would be operable.
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Oct 30, 2021 00:34
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Wanderless posted:They didn't say the windows would be operable. Yeah they’re explicitly not. horns.aiff
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Oct 30, 2021 00:34
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Yes but you see if the entire interior of the building is a hot stinky humid mess that will encourage students to go outside and socialize. Gasp for air together.
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Oct 30, 2021 00:38
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Houseplants will thrive in, and contribute to, the dank atmosphere.
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Oct 30, 2021 00:41
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I'm having a real hard time imagining an 'amateur architect' has a good grasp of HVAC. Will the individual rooms even have ventilation? Everybody wants to live in the dorm that smells of farts and BO.
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Oct 30, 2021 00:41
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Putting the jungle in concrete jungle.
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Oct 30, 2021 00:42
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Facebook Aunt posted:I'm having a real hard time imagining an 'amateur architect' has a good grasp of HVAC. Will the individual rooms even have ventilation? This place is going to look like everyone's first attempt at Oxygen Not Included.
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Oct 30, 2021 00:45
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Platystemon posted:Houseplants will thrive in, and contribute to, the dank atmosphere. This dorm is now the grow-op ghetto, thanks billionaires with terrible ideas!
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Oct 30, 2021 00:46
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 Even outside the cells, the service areas don't seem sufficient for the population. And these plans need to be followed exactly. 4500 residents. 1 40 seat theater. The food service areas appear to have dozens of seats. I'm sure that won't be a problem when a thousand residents want to have lunch at the same time. The ground floor seems to have a laundry room, is that just for the apartments and services on the ground floor, or is the whole building using a single laundromat? Why surfboards? Oh, hey, surfboard storage room has windows, the staff offices don't get windows but the surfboards do.
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Oct 30, 2021 01:08
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On the upside, with only two entrances it will be easy for the students to barricade and extremely defensible when they riot and present a list of demands.
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Oct 30, 2021 01:11
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Tiny room marked "PETS" is giving me anxiety.
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Oct 30, 2021 01:14
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Cyrano4747 posted:On the upside, with only two entrances it will be easy for the students to barricade and extremely defensible when they riot and present a list of demands. We the class of 2025, and our compatriots at the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory here declare, ow ow ouchie ow
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Oct 30, 2021 01:29
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Cyrano4747 posted:On the upside, with only two entrances it will be easy for the students to barricade and extremely defensible when they riot and present a list of demands. What is the point of protesting when there is no way to fix this? They can't put windows in later. There isn't any spare space to expand or change anything. An entire pod has a single point of emergency egress and there is no way to fix that. Even if you tear out all the interior walls and redesign the space it is still a cube with the minimum possible surface area. They only thing that can be done is build new dorms and tear this abomination down, and that won't be in the budget or they would just have built sane buildings in the first place.
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Oct 30, 2021 01:47
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Facebook Aunt posted:What is the point of protesting when there is no way to fix this? They can't put windows in later. There isn't any spare space to expand or change anything. An entire pod has a single point of emergency egress and there is no way to fix that. Even if you tear out all the interior walls and redesign the space it is still a cube with the minimum possible surface area. Secretly build it so the centre is removable, making a somewhat livable hollow cube.
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Oct 30, 2021 02:08
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I've seen this building being discussed in four separate threads now, I haven't seen Goons this united in a while.
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Oct 30, 2021 02:24
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I've seen this building being discussed in four separate threads now, I haven't seen Goons this united in a while. It's Star Citizen the dormatory.
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Oct 30, 2021 02:33
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Facebook Aunt posted:Tiny room marked "PETS" is giving me anxiety. You mean the Portable Euthanasia Trailer Storage?
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Oct 30, 2021 02:39
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I've seen this building being discussed in four separate threads now, I haven't seen Goons this united in a while. Last time I can recall was the DooM bath.
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Oct 30, 2021 02:55
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Slanderer posted:Reminds me of Victory Cities, a concept for an all-inclusive megacity apartment building designed by a maniac millionaire at age 13. The guy eventually donated all of his writings on the concept to some college, under the condition that they build a library to maintain his collection (to that end, the website for the project is still online lol).
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Oct 30, 2021 02:57
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Facebook Aunt posted:What is the point of protesting when there is no way to fix this? They can't put windows in later. There isn't any spare space to expand or change anything. An entire pod has a single point of emergency egress and there is no way to fix that. Even if you tear out all the interior walls and redesign the space it is still a cube with the minimum possible surface area. Sometimes the point is to create a big enough mess that you embarrass the gently caress out of the people in charge and gently caress near anything gets done. Your typical prison riot doesn't have a high probability of enacting meaningful reform, but it still underscores what's hosed. It's worth noting that in this instance buying a poo poo load of doublewides and parking them in literally any empty field, parking lot, or sports field would be an improvement. Napkin math and lazy googling says that a doublwide costs about ~900,000. If we assume you can squeeze 4 people in there (not an insane assumption, plus you're probably getting bespoke trailers for this huge as gently caress contract) that's ~$112million to just put everyone in a gently caress-off huge trailer park. Which, you know, is extremely significant and has you basically bending over and paying retail, but it's still a drat sight cheaper than the $200 million Mega
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Oct 30, 2021 03:14
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File photo of one of the new dorm's RAs:
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Oct 30, 2021 03:15
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Cyrano4747 posted:Sometimes the point is to create a big enough mess that you embarrass the gently caress out of the people in charge and gently caress near anything gets done. Your typical prison riot doesn't have a high probability of enacting meaningful reform, but it still underscores what's hosed. you have a mod’s understanding of California property and construction costs. let me just do some back of the napkin math on buying single story space for 4500 people in downtown Santa Barbara, factoring in environmental assessments (assuming no locals use the CEQA to block the project!) and… oh gently caress Edit: wait it’s on the outskirts. maybe a bit pricey the Slanderer fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Oct 30, 2021 |
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Oct 30, 2021 03:27
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Stack the trailers on top of each other like in Ready Player One.  
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Oct 30, 2021 03:30
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Platystemon posted:Stack the trailers on top of each other like in Ready Player One. That's just disturbing. No one wants to use drones to slaughter uni students. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2tpwW0kmU
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Oct 30, 2021 03:32
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Cyrano4747 posted:Sometimes the point is to create a big enough mess that you embarrass the gently caress out of the people in charge and gently caress near anything gets done. Your typical prison riot doesn't have a high probability of enacting meaningful reform, but it still underscores what's hosed. lmao it’s not a $200m project, that’s the part of the total cost which is buying amateur architect billionaire j. fucknuts his opportunity to stage his biggest crush porn shoot yet.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Sometimes the point is to create a big enough mess that you embarrass the gently caress out of the people in charge and gently caress near anything gets done. Your typical prison riot doesn't have a high probability of enacting meaningful reform, but it still underscores what's hosed. Not $200 million, $1.5 Billion https://twitter.com/alfred_twu/status/1454180125700866048 E: lol "The cube plans to put 1 out of every 6 UCSB students next to the County of Santa Barbara Community Hazardous Waste Collection Center" https://twitter.com/alfred_twu/status/1454173132374220800 -Zydeco- fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Oct 30, 2021 |
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Oct 30, 2021 03:35
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Slanderer posted:you have a mod’s understanding of California property and construction costs. let me just do some back of the napkin math on buying single story space for 4500 people in downtown Santa Barbara, factoring in environmental assessments (assuming no locals use the CEQA to block the project!) and… oh gently caress counterpoint: the university already owns a fuckload of land in the area, just bulldoze the third practice football field or something
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Oct 30, 2021 03:40
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I mean, or, I dunno, radical thinking here, build a few dorm buildings on the same land that are only the normal grade of dehumanizing giant student storage rather than trailblazing new paths into dystopia. I've lived in some gently caress awful housing in my life, and some of it was provided by educational institutions, but they all managed a bare minimum of poo poo like "giving me a window" and "safe fire egress."
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Oct 30, 2021 03:42
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Slanderer posted:One reply mentioned something no one is talking about--there is already a Munger dorm for grad students at the university of michigan. I think the bedrooms are larger, but the concept might be the same? Yeah the Munger Graduate Residence here has had almost exclusively negative press even before it was built. The university used eminent domain to acquire enough land to build the thing, and in the process bulldozed the original location of an iconic and well loved family restaurant. They had some kind of artificial deadline from the donor and had crews working basically 24 hours a day to get it finished. The rooms are configured into seven bedroom suites, which is one bedroom more than the city code allows. But because the university is a state institution, they can do whatever the gently caress they want. And no, the bedrooms do not have windows. The entire concept of the dorm was supposed to be grad students living with people from different programs. You'd have to apply with an essay and then would be slotted into suites with people you do not know and will not be part of your cohort. This was the brainchild of a senior director of housing who got suspended about 9 months after the dorm finally opened. The place has been pretty drama free for the last 5 years or so, I honestly wasn't aware that the bedroom suites didn't have windows in their rooms until today. It looks like there are windows in the living rooms that all the bedrooms connect to, which is probably still better than this new UCSB dorm.
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Oct 30, 2021 03:43
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koshmar posted:Do they normally provide stoves in dorms configured with that type of shared living space. When I was in school some students seemed to have a issue with using a microwave without evacuating the entire dorm. They never would have stuck a stove in any of the common areas. I lived in a four- and eight-person dorm and both had reasonably complete apartment kitchens (refrigerator, dishwasher, stove, byo microwave). e. I checked google maps and every single dorm on my undergrad campus is arranged to provide a window for every bedroom.
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Oct 30, 2021 03:51
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RoastBeef posted:I lived in a four- and eight-person dorm and both had reasonably complete apartment kitchens (refrigerator, dishwasher, stove, byo microwave). It really, really depends on what the people who built it thought of the likely lives of the students. It's entirely in the realm of what some architect imagines people doing. I've lived in a standard dorm hall where you were expected to just walk to the cafeteria a few blokes over and there was a communal kitchen with a microwave. Worked fine. On the same campus I lived in a dorm that had an integral dining hall for special interest dining groups and you were expected to go there and socialize with other nerds interested in your thing . That worked too. It was it's own brand of weird, but it was fine if you value eating dining hall food while geeking out about specific subjects with other like minded dorks (I very much did). Same campus, I lived in a detached "apartment" that had access to a microwave like a quarter mile away, was about a mile from a dining hall, and had loving awful routes to walk to get to any of that. By the end of that semester I was on a first name basis with the pizza delivery guys and was tipping them in  Not an ideal situaton.Meanwhile in grad school I saw someone's university provided grad-school apartment/dorm that was basically my freshman dorm with a solo bathroom and the world's shittiest kitchen that they expected this dude, his wife, and his two kids to somehow live in. The really hosed part is that he could have gotten a halfway decent 2br apartment for what they were charging him for it, but he was foreign so I guess he just went with what his trusted institution was offering.
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8one6 posted:This place is going to look like everyone's first attempt at Oxygen Not Included. *Sewage system backs up, 4500 HolHorsejob fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Oct 30, 2021 |
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Oct 30, 2021 09:09
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Sirotan posted:Yeah the Munger Graduate Residence here has had almost exclusively negative press even before it was built. The university used eminent domain to acquire enough land to build the thing, and in the process bulldozed the original location of an iconic and well loved family restaurant. They had some kind of artificial deadline from the donor and had crews working basically 24 hours a day to get it finished. The rooms are configured into seven bedroom suites, which is one bedroom more than the city code allows. But because the university is a state institution, they can do whatever the gently caress they want. And no, the bedrooms do not have windows. The new dorm is definitely leveling up the dystopia, seeing how far they can turn the screws. The old place has no bedroom windows, but they are much larger bedrooms with double beds and private bathrooms. Big kitchens with 2 fridges, 2 stoves, 2 sinks, 2 microwaves and 2 dishwashers. Oh, and it actually has a guest bathroom with just a toilet and sink too. So 7 bedrooms, 8 bathrooms for 7 people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_WUixhkwu4 And here's what a resident's room looks like once it is lived in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iRaug6kB14 And of course since it is a graduate residence no one is having to share their space with a freshman away from home for the first time.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Meanwhile in grad school I saw someone's university provided grad-school apartment/dorm that was basically my freshman dorm with a solo bathroom and the world's shittiest kitchen that they expected this dude, his wife, and his two kids to somehow live in. The really hosed part is that he could have gotten a halfway decent 2br apartment for what they were charging him for it, but he was foreign so I guess he just went with what his trusted institution was offering. Yeah, residence hall/dorm pricing is......not great. My daughter just signed a lease with her current roommate for a 2 BR apartment just off campus. It's going to cost about 20% more than the residence halls, where their single shared dorm room is the size of one of the bedrooms in the apartment. The dorms also have no kitchen, communal or otherwise and they have only a dorm fridge/microwave combo as opposed to a full kitchen and a living room and poo poo in the apartment. And they'll only be sharing a bathroom with each other rather than the other 15 women on their hallway. These apartments are between campus and the B&N official campus book store, and have campus shuttles and security (including emergency pull boxes) everywhere. If you didn't know better you'd think you were still on campus. A lot of this has been driven by campus dining selections being lackluster in general, and even worse for a kit with celiac so she wants a drat kitchen. If it weren't for that we may have not known just how......not great the dorm pricing actually is.
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