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All this time when I thought it was just some bored idiots trying to start a "Let's Go Brandon" chat at the Giants game, but now I realize I was actually at the epicenter of the New Nuremberg Rallies.
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While I do think the media is overall far too deferential towards Biden and towards power in general, it's pretty obvious that the NASCAR reporter tried "oh yeah they're saying let's go Brandon" because sports reporters are pathologically averse to "politics" in their coverage.
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Oct 31, 2021 14:35
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lobster shirt posted:While I do think the media is overall far too deferential towards Biden and towards power in general, it's pretty obvious that the NASCAR reporter tried "oh yeah they're saying let's go Brandon" because sports reporters are pathologically averse to "politics" in their coverage. Also because it was a network broadcast and networks can get in trouble for broadcasting "gently caress" if it is not "broadcast in a fleeting manner or said involuntarily in shock."
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Oct 31, 2021 14:47
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I remember and prefer the days of limited meme reach where they were seemingly confined to somewhat niche corners of the web and shared with contacts over personal email versus today's nearly inescapable social media web which bled over into an increased proliferation of physical world yard sign displays, decal emblazoned vehicles and political meme catchphrases embedded in verbal public communications. Or at least I can imagine a time when it didn't seem like I inhabited a full fledged meme world. Maybe it was a different set of memes I was steeped in to the point of non-awareness of them back then.
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Oct 31, 2021 14:54
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I saw a Let’s Go Brandon sticker on a boomer driven Tahoe in my neighborhood. I think it’s got some legs with the decrepit, terminally online Facebook meme sharers. Still dumb as poo poo though, but each encounter in the wild is emblematic of the ring of inflammation around the rotting wound of online nazi poo poo.
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Oct 31, 2021 14:58
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It's great, old fucks are discovering the equivalent of "umadbro" and no one knows how to react Loving our 2021 world of right wing memelords vs left wing effortposters
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Oct 31, 2021 15:23
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Chomposaur posted:It's great, old fucks are discovering the equivalent of "umadbro" and no one knows how to react It's just dog-whistling, dude, and every bit as vile as it ever was.
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Oct 31, 2021 15:30
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It’s okay to loathe Joe Biden, he deserves it. I think fighting over the exact meaning of the phrase is missing the point. Dogwhistles aside, “Conservative” used to mean George Will. Any racist underbelly was firmly hidden behind “fiscal” concerns. But after Trump’s 2016 campaign, the mask is off and “Conservative” now means that if you aren’t white, cis, and Christian, then you aren't a real American. “Conservatives” now physically threaten people on the streets all over this country. Signaling that you’re “Conservative” is no longer benign, especially when you’re doing it in a secret-but-not-secret way that suggests “We’re out here, we’re everywhere, and we loathe you. Be silent, be invisible, like you were back when America was Great.”
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Oct 31, 2021 15:32
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My favorite right wing thing is that at all my local gas pumps, someone has put these stickers of Joe pointing at the price saying "I did that!"
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Oct 31, 2021 15:38
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BonoMan posted:My favorite right wing thing is that at all my local gas pumps, someone has put these stickers of Joe pointing at the price saying "I did that!" I wondered how far these have spread. I saw one of these in central NC the other day. Although my favorite gas station politics is still the time I saw simply “Obama Sucks” written in pink highlighter on a gas pump in NH.
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Oct 31, 2021 15:56
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Rip Testes posted:I remember and prefer the days of limited meme reach where they were seemingly confined to somewhat niche corners of the web and shared with contacts over personal email versus today's nearly inescapable social media web which bled over into an increased proliferation of physical world yard sign displays, decal emblazoned vehicles and political meme catchphrases embedded in verbal public communications. Or at least I can imagine a time when it didn't seem like I inhabited a full fledged meme world. Maybe it was a different set of memes I was steeped in to the point of non-awareness of them back then. I too yearn for the days where Mr. T ate my balls.
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Oct 31, 2021 15:58
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Lord Wexia posted:I wondered how far these have spread. I saw one of these in central NC the other day. Ah I saw it in Durham so maybe it's still just in NC?
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Oct 31, 2021 16:02
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Isn’t usually the response to any of these right wing memes “ok boomer” or something. Why is everyone concerned about olds discovering memes?
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Oct 31, 2021 16:03
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Honestly let's go Brandon is way less toxic than many other things they like to yell so it's probably not that big of a deal.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:07
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Honestly let's go Brandon is way less toxic than many other things they like to yell so it's probably not that big of a deal. I think what annoys me about it is that it sounds innocuous and is very crowd-chant-friendly (by nature) so we keep hearing anecdotes of big crowds striking it up. Whether it means the entire crowd even knows what it means or not, it's really discouraging to see. (And probably worse if they don't realize what they're doing)
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Oct 31, 2021 16:10
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Data Graham posted:I think what annoys me about it is that it sounds innocuous and is very crowd-chant-friendly (by nature) so we keep hearing anecdotes of big crowds striking it up. Whether it means the entire crowd even knows what it means or not, it's really discouraging to see. (And probably worse if they don't realize what they're doing) Maybe the Dems and liberals should focus on correcting their failures to deliver anything they promised during the 2020 campaign instead of a silly chant that is meant to hide an expletive about the president? If this chant is supposed to be some code for Nazis to identify each other than maybe things like voting rights should be treated with importance instead of some fundraising propaganda.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:18
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Data Graham posted:I think what annoys me about it is that it sounds innocuous and is very crowd-chant-friendly (by nature) so we keep hearing anecdotes of big crowds striking it up. Whether it means the entire crowd even knows what it means or not, it's really discouraging to see. (And probably worse if they don't realize what they're doing) All it takes is a few people to start a chant in a crowd full of drunk idiots. I wouldn't read into it too much.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:19
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I just realized UCSB stole my dwarf fortress bedroom layout
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Oct 31, 2021 16:24
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That's why the building plan kept causing a weird part of my brain to itch!
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Oct 31, 2021 16:26
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InsertPotPun posted:i say we treat "let's go brandon" in the same way as we treat that pepe frog or "fren" or "pede": assume the person using it is a chud. that's it, that doesn't seem "hysterical" to me. worst case scenario people who use the phrase will be seen as a slightly different type of rear end in a top hat. best case scenario fascists can't hide behind "they just don't like biden" because, again, i assume some of the people using it are honest to god giving their heartfelt and insightful commentary on the administration. #notalltrumpsupporters In the rest of my post, which you cut out, you might have noticed that I said basically this! My post was about alienating people by using language that comes off as hyperbolic and histrionic. Very cool of you to imply that I want to “hear [trump supporters] out on other social issues” or anything of the sort though!
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Oct 31, 2021 16:38
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This is the same argument we had about the racist okay sign. Like to the extent that it's just an ingroup code word it's not worrisome on its own because the people already exist and the meme isn't what is changing their mind. But it absolutely is a dogwhistle. And it's not just about Joe Biden sucking. It's internet humor for conservatives, and they use it to identify each other and form in groups. I don't know whether that "matters" or not but it's definately real.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:38
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I'm kind of shifting back and forth on this. Where I'm at now is either all conservatives are Nazis ready to kill us all or they aren't. Either way freaking out about yet another whistle seems like a distraction. If they aren't, we are being successfully trolled. If they are, it's small potatoes.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:48
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InsertPotPun posted:i say we treat "let's go brandon" in the same way as we treat that pepe frog or "fren" or "pede": assume the person using it is a chud. that's it, that doesn't seem "hysterical" to me. worst case scenario people who use the phrase will be seen as a slightly different type of rear end in a top hat. best case scenario fascists can't hide behind "they just don't like biden" because, again, i assume some of the people using it are honest to god giving their heartfelt and insightful commentary on the administration. #notalltrumpsupporters I might be wrong, but from my own observation it seems like the frog emojis have sort of transcended and are now used by people of all political persuasions, and have approached the 'ok hand sign' point of how crazy you seem to most people if you try to talk about the bad contexts in which they were used.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:49
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I dunno how much of this talking past each other is on purpose or blind posting rage, but it seems like some posters have misread things and it got dumb. You've got: "This is a dog whistle" Yeah seems right. "People who use it are right-wingers" Uh huh probably a fair assumption. Then, "People who use it are, more specifically, Nazis" Okay that's more of a jump and is getting into hyperbole that is unnecessary at best. "All right-wingers are nazis" This, to me, is unhelpful. It's just... Not what the word means. Hell some of them might be worse than the actual Nazis, somehow. I wouldn't put it part these psychos.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:54
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Flying-PCP posted:I might be wrong, but from my own observation it seems like the frog emojis have sort of transcended and are now used by people of all political persuasions, and have approached the 'ok hand sign' point of how crazy you seem to most people if you try to talk about the bad contexts in which they were used. I hope Pepe does fully return to a neutral cultural use over time, Boy’s Club didn’t deserve what was done to it 
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Flying-PCP posted:I might be wrong, but from my own observation it seems like the frog emojis have sort of transcended and are now used by people of all political persuasions, and have approached the 'ok hand sign' point of how crazy you seem to most people if you try to talk about the bad contexts in which they were used.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:54
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Biden should hire like, a personal assistant or a driver named Brandon and then whenever they leave someplace he says "Let's go, Brandon" and by Biden himself saying the meme it will destroy it for conservatives, which would be funny.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:56
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I guess they think they're being funny with their dumb code poo poo Like just say 'gently caress Joe Biden', who cares.
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Oct 31, 2021 16:56
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Bear Enthusiast posted:I dunno how much of this talking past each other is on purpose or blind posting rage, but it seems like some posters have misread things and it got dumb. You've got: Words like nazi, fascist, socialist, liberal, etc. have lost all nuance in online discourse and just mean "someone with different political views than me." They're used more in a way to signal membership to a political tribe than any sort of specific political philosophy.
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Oct 31, 2021 17:01
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Harold Fjord posted:I'm kind of shifting back and forth on this. Where I'm at now is either all conservatives are Nazis ready to kill us all or they aren't. Either way freaking out about yet another whistle seems like a distraction. If they aren't, we are being successfully trolled. If they are, it's small potatoes. I think it's fine to figuratively shove the microphone in the face of people that you hear say it, and ask why they think it's okay to say that in that context? It's not cute or funny and you're a 50-year old man, so if you want to say gently caress Joe Biden, say it. If society generally doesn't establish boundaries, it's not like anyone else will. Make them pay an uncomfortable social price for acting like a child. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4pSp3Km6Mw&t=77s
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Oct 31, 2021 17:01
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Gumball Gumption posted:Treating it as a big taboo is part of what fuels memes like this. It was acceptable to chant gently caress Trump and while the right got mad about it they never really acted like it didn't happen and it never really became a big thing. The news caster unfortunately pretending it was a different phrase gave it that spice to make people like Ted Cruz feel punk rock when they say it. I think I mostly agree with this take. If someone says "Let's go Brandon" they've identified themselves as a right winger and someone I want nothing to do with. Doesn't necessarily mean I'm afraid that particular person will march me to a gas chamber but like, I'm still pretty much automatically not going to like anyone who outs themselves as a right winger. I think passengers gasping is an appropriate response. Not because "omg he said the equivalent of a slur!" but simply for the unprofessionalism of bringing a political meme where it doesn't belong. If I was on a plane in 1996 and the pilot said "Please vote for Bob Dole" I'd probably make some sort of surprised exclamation.
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Oct 31, 2021 17:02
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Hellblazer187 posted:Biden should hire like, a personal assistant or a driver named Brandon and then whenever they leave someplace he says "Let's go, Brandon" and by Biden himself saying the meme it will destroy it for conservatives, which would be funny. See this is how you fight a culture war. It's stupid, petty, and hilarious. We don't live in that world unfortunately
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Oct 31, 2021 17:02
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:See this is how you fight a culture war. It's stupid, petty, and hilarious. Yeah, West Wing has been off the air for a while. But if you can find Aaron Sorkin you could probably put a pitch together
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Oct 31, 2021 17:03
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Happy Halloween, you miserable bastards. Anyone doing anything or dress up or watching anything?
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Oct 31, 2021 17:05
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Happy Halloween, you miserable bastards. Anyone doing anything or dress up or watching anything? I'm dressing up as a fat goon and watching star trek.
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Oct 31, 2021 17:06
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Happy Halloween, you miserable bastards. Anyone doing anything or dress up or watching anything? I'm dressing up like a keyboard as a D&D Lib.
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Oct 31, 2021 17:09
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Happy Halloween, you miserable bastards. Anyone doing anything or dress up or watching anything? My wife and I watched the first two Evil Dead movies back to back last night. It was the first time we had seen them as adults, and they hold up incredibly well. High art. Probably going to watch the third tonight. Might watch Night of the Living Dead or Zombi as well, I love the classics. Any other recommendations, you spooky freaks?
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Oct 31, 2021 17:09
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Devor posted:Yeah, West Wing has been off the air for a while. But if you can find Aaron Sorkin you could probably put a pitch together Eww no. Sorkin would be like making a speech about morals after someone named Brandon committed suicide after hearing the chant, changing everyone's mind in the end. Trolling a troll like let's go Brandon is a perfectly fine response as long as it's funny. It's not going to actually fix the problem.
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Oct 31, 2021 17:10
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Hellblazer187 posted:I'm dressing up as a fat goon and watching star trek. drat, this was also my plan. Cat's Paw is a Halloween classic.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Eww no. Sorkin would be like making a speech about morals after someone named Brandon committed suicide after hearing the chant, changing everyone's mind in the end. That just reminds me of how they changed the ending of Needful things. Where instead of getting into a weird magic duel with a daemon. The sheriff talks the town down in a giant sorkin moment and leads to the hosed up select man suicide bombing max von sydow. In the book, like half the town is dead or blow up and the daemon kinda gets chased off. How come most king movies suck? Like misery and shining are good. And it chapter 1 Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Oct 31, 2021 |
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