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The layout of movie Arrakeen/environs is a little muddled - the main spaceport seems like it's pretty far from the city, but later Leto points it out to Gurney as if it's within the city. Maybe he's just pointing in its general direction. The final battle doesn't have to take place particularly close to Arrakeen, just near the spaceport where the Emperor's ship/palace lands. Somehow removing a natural barrier to let the storm/worms in seems like a mandatory plot point. Although if they have the Emperor just take over the Arrakeen palace instead the battle could take place within the city, and removing the artificial wall we saw in the film would then be the tactical trick that lets the Fremen win. We've already seen that there are spots on the surrounding mountains that let you look down on the city. It doesn't quite solve the issue of letting the storm in, assuming they work that in there as well. I'd be sad to lose the design of the Imperial ship, but at this point I think we've got contradictory signals - the space port is away from the city, which points to a novel-like space port finale with the Emperor's landed ships, but the only named Shield Wall is an artificial barrier right next to the city, which might indicate they're moving the action to the city itself. Maybe we'll get a two-parter, with both the mountains and the city wall needing to be breached.
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The shield wall as such (geological feature) isn’t mandatory, but there needs to be some reason why the Fremen can’t just run Arrakeen over. Otherwise they’d just do that instead of sit in the desert and talk about it.
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Ulf posted:Pretty sure there was a “CHOAM Gang” / “witches get sietches” gang tag a few hundred pages back somewhere. 
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Drone posted:The thought of Brian Herbert and KJA getting producer credits on a Dune movie would just ruin me Erm. Don't watch the end credits friend. 
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I doubt we get a Jamis funeral. It really does nothing for the plot and introduces what’s likely going to be kind of a trigger plot point that I could easily see them dropping and that’s Jamis‘s wife and Paul taking ownership of the family sort of. I could easily see that being a patriarchy problem that ends up on the editing room floor.
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If I'm remembering the film correctly he doesn't say the shield wall is a city construction but rather he's talking about the shield wall as the thopters pass over it and as soon as he's done talking the camera pans downward in a sort of BR 2049 city shot, so I think it's just easy to misinterpret.
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They got pretty far in part one You have to see in part two : spice agonies , riding the worm , mother loving snakes eating saudauker , they killed my son
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 I loved how DUNC made riding the worm look like the dude was going 100mph and holding on for dear life with his cloak in the wind like extreme skports rather than  or god forbid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVqXE9ZY5wk the worm can't submerge yo, but that doesn't mean that 90% of its body mass would be on top of the sannnnd 
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:imagine bringing a lazgun to a worm fight When all you have is a Duncan with a lasgun, all problems look like a dickless worm
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kiimo posted:I doubt we get a Jamis funeral. It really does nothing for the plot and introduces what’s likely going to be kind of a trigger plot point that I could easily see them dropping and that’s Jamis‘s wife and Paul taking ownership of the family sort of. I could easily see that being a patriarchy problem that ends up on the editing room floor. It introduces the fremens precision engineering, how deep the ecological dream of the fremen goes as they would die before they touch the cistern, and Paul's first time face to face with death. You could rewrite harah and move a lot of that other stuff around but I'd argue a lot that goes on in the death ceremony is kind of core to Paul becoming part of the fremen
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I'm always lol at this because it looks like he's using my elementary school jump ropes as reins
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I quite enjoyed the large cast production of Dune, which is the best audiobook version of Messiah?
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The Bloop posted:I'm always lol at this because it looks like he's using my elementary school jump ropes as reins it just occurred to me how little sense it makes that you could pry up a big enough part of a sandworms hide to bother it with your hands, it would be like trying to tickle a building
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i thought it was the sand under their scales or plates or w/e that irritated them, so even a tiny crack would be good enough
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I can't think of any reason that wouldn't be pseudoscientific. Maybe it lets the furnace-like heat out and it melts sand causing friction? It'd be tough to stand next to a cracked open furnace like that though. Maybe the worms get some sort of infection from sand plankton or an imported species and their genetic memory keeps open wounds above sand. Also, is there a quote of how hard the scales are? Maybe worms just aren't as armored as I remember and they are always portrayed as too dragon-y instead of like earth worms. It's all speculation anyways, although a whale attacked with a harpoon often won't dive, paradoxically. It will pull and stay near the surface. Perhaps there's some Moby Dick influence I've missed? "What is the name of the early Arabic Muslim prophet that lives in the desert?" "Ishmael" "Call me Ishmael" 
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Some time ago- 3,156 years ago precisely- having little or no hope in my golden path, and nothing particular to interest me on Kaitain, I thought I would encyst myself within a living integument of soundtrout and see beyond the watery part of the world.
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Soul Dentist posted:I can't think of any reason that wouldn't be pseudoscientific. Maybe it lets the furnace-like heat out and it melts sand causing friction? It'd be tough to stand next to a cracked open furnace like that though. whales come to surface to breath, so they can't dive to the depths straight after and whales aren't killed by the harpoons, but by the lances
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Arbite posted:I quite enjoyed the large cast production of Dune, which is the best audiobook version of Messiah? To me the best versions will always be the ones narrated by Scott Brick alone. Although I also have a soft spot for the Danish audiobook produced in 1981 and narrated by Elise Munch-Petersen, because that was my introduction to Dune as a child. Soul Dentist posted:I can't think of any reason that wouldn't be pseudoscientific. Maybe it lets the furnace-like heat out and it melts sand causing friction? It'd be tough to stand next to a cracked open furnace like that though. Heat (and oxygen) is vented from the rear of the worms, and even Fremen children know to avoid this area. "You think it's air you're breathing?" "It's worm farts!" One thing that the visual adaptations fail to address is how the spice harvester attack makes it possible to mount the sandworm when attracted by a thumper. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Oct 31, 2021 |
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Dune's world is endlessly bizarre, but it has just enough of reality's texture that our brains are lulled into puzzling out details like worm ecology or plastics manufacturing infrastructure.
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Tim Hortons New Hampshire. I'm here all week
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Finally saw the movie in IMAX. It was very good.
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Yeah, IMAX was a great experience.I really loved how all the spaceships have such bizzare shapes; everything looks bizarrely top heavy and wrong. I felt like half the movie was people walking out of bizarrely designed spacecraft. I'm disappointed they didn't actually show the Heighliners folding space. With all the advancements in special effects, I would think that was something they would want to show off.
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HOUSE ATRIEDES FTW!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tree Bucket posted:Dune's world is endlessly bizarre, but it has just enough of reality's texture that our brains are lulled into puzzling out details like worm ecology or plastics manufacturing infrastructure. People have developed the unimaginable technology to fold time and space accurately and repeatedly. They use this technology to fly to other worlds and hit each other with swords, because reasons.
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Does stillegar come to house Atriedes on arrakis in the book. I remeber spitting on the table thing but was that stillgar? I thought they first meet stillgar in that scene in the desert where jessica "bests" a freeman but im not sure.
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He does yes.
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Vampire Panties posted:They use this technology to fly to other worlds and hit each other with swords, because of expensive worm poop.
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Flakey posted:He does yes. Interesting OP. I guess I didn't remeber it was him because I didn't know of his great import at the time....
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Vampire Panties posted:People have developed the unimaginable technology to fold time and space accurately and repeatedly. People hitting each other with swords is one of the great literary themes. Sir Terry Pratchett posted:And even though it was "The Lord of the Rings," in those days, "The
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Panfilo posted:Yeah, IMAX was a great experience.I really loved how all the spaceships have such bizzare shapes; everything looks bizarrely top heavy and wrong. I felt like half the movie was people walking out of bizarrely designed spacecraft. they sort of do but it's really subtle and easy to miss.
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threelemmings posted:It introduces the fremens precision engineering, how deep the ecological dream of the fremen goes as they would die before they touch the cistern, and Paul's first time face to face with death. You could rewrite harah and move a lot of that other stuff around but I'd argue a lot that goes on in the death ceremony is kind of core to Paul becoming part of the fremen You can show all this without the funeral. Don't get too attached to it is my suggestion
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uber_stoat posted:they sort of do but it's really subtle and easy to miss. Yeah it’s weird. It’s like the heighliner was acting as a bridge between two distant points that you then fly through. It’s the scene where the Bene Gesserit ship is approaching Caladan. There’s a shot where you’re looking through the heighliner and at one end of the hole is a totally different space.
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epic 2012 username posted:Does stillegar come to house Atriedes on arrakis in the book. I remeber spitting on the table thing but was that stillgar? I thought they first meet stillgar in that scene in the desert where jessica "bests" a freeman but im not sure. He comes to tell them that they better not show those Crysknives to anyone. This is also where you learn about Fremen water recycling.
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Re: wormriding I know that they keep their open flaps topside, but the irritating part to me is why does sand bother sand worms? They literally move through it and filter it internally! I know the answer is "science fiction" but it just seems wrong.
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