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low-margin, low-risk lending and rising housing prices are The cornerstones of the modern western political economy, so this sort of thing will happen and has to be seen as a sort of collateral damage of neoliberalism i don't care that they were trying to make it big by a ridiculous speculation, ridiculous speculation is how you make money these days if you're not either an outright criminal or have some kind of rent to extract
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V. Illych L. posted:either an outright criminal or have some kind of rent to extract There's a difference?
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Maybe I dont watch linear tv enough but it was still weird to see Matt Damon promoting Crypto in a commercial on TV today. I mean, the government does not want gambling sites promoted on TV but pyramide schemes seems fine, if they are big enough.
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Alhazred posted:There's a difference? I have this strong sense that there is, but how would we ever know...
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You keep calling the town Bofors. It is Hofors. Been there a few times because it is right between a town i used to live in and a town i used to visit. Nothing much to say other than it being a very typical "håla" in Bergslagen.
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Rincewinds posted:Maybe I dont watch linear tv enough but it was still weird to see Matt Damon promoting Crypto in a commercial on TV today. Not the pertinent point here, but I think in the language of classic fraud, cryptocurrency is more of a Ponzi scheme than a pyramid one.
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Vulture banking is bad and horrible and all that, but come on. The couple invested 1 000 SEK and was told by a random dude recommended by a fake GW commercial that those 1 000 SEK had magically turned into 100 000 SEK overnight because BITCOINS! And then they went all in without doing any research. That's an immense mixture of greed and ignorance. I feel bad for them, but there's a limit to how much you can blame the bank before some of that blame falls on the couple. I have a limit where I feel like the "bohoo poor salt of the earth people were raised in a society where the banker was the Good Guy and are completely blameless" angle is a bit too much. Greedy people are easy to fool.
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In response to the latest surge in gang violence, or possibly the surge in reporting of gang violence after an actual white boy was shot, the Social Democrats are now officially exploring options for the police to use wire tapping and covert searches of people's homes without suspecting them of an actual crime. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/mikael-damberg-presenterar-ytterligare-atgarder-for-att-bekampa-gangkriminaliteten
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lilljonas posted:Vulture banking is bad and horrible and all that, but come on. The couple invested 1 000 SEK and was told by a random dude recommended by a fake GW commercial that those 1 000 SEK had magically turned into 100 000 SEK overnight because BITCOINS! And then they went all in without doing any research. That's an immense mixture of greed and ignorance. I feel bad for them, but there's a limit to how much you can blame the bank before some of that blame falls on the couple. I have a limit where I feel like the "bohoo poor salt of the earth people were raised in a society where the banker was the Good Guy and are completely blameless" angle is a bit too much. Greedy people are easy to fool. Fraud is a crime and I see no reason the bank should get to profit for being negligent in their due dilligence.
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von Braun posted:ban bitcoin tbh Ban bitcoin, ntf etc for both being predatory scams and for being a huge waste of resources during an environmental crisis.
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lilljonas posted:Ban bitcoin, ntf etc for both being predatory scams and for being a huge waste of resources during an environmental crisis. But enough about svensk näringsliv.
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I guess this is why people say that Denmark is Sweden in ten years https://www.dn.se/sverige/utskallda-och-hyllade-danska-vagvalet-splittrar-svenska-socialdemokrater/
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Star posted:I guess this is why people say that Denmark is Sweden in ten years https://www.dn.se/sverige/utskallda-och-hyllade-danska-vagvalet-splittrar-svenska-socialdemokrater/ https://www.expressen.se/kronikorer/viktor-barth-kron/nu-ar-det-s-tur-att-jagas-av-sd-spoket/ Denmark is where Sweden will be in ten years. Which incidentally would mean that we will get a M+Kd coalition supported by SD given the last 10 years of Danish politics.
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Cardiac posted:https://www.expressen.se/kronikorer/viktor-barth-kron/nu-ar-det-s-tur-att-jagas-av-sd-spoket/ then it's going to go very fast. denmark a decade ago was much more... danish than sweden is now, and that's with DF a pretty established party not disagreeing with the coalition prediction, though, that does sound credible
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V. Illych L. posted:then it's going to go very fast. denmark a decade ago was much more... danish than sweden is now, and that's with DF a pretty established party Well, who knows. Swedish politics are weird. I think the biggest fear for S would be a M+SD coalition that doesn’t gently caress up. Interestingly the SD M budget discussions fell apart on SD not wanting to go along with Ms traditional lower taxes. S + SD = nationalistic socialism 
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Cardiac posted:S + SD = nationalistic socialism SD + S = sverigesocialisterna = SS
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Beeswax posted:In response to the latest surge in gang violence, or possibly the surge in reporting of gang violence after an actual white boy was shot, the Social Democrats are now officially exploring options for the police to use wire tapping and covert searches of people's homes without suspecting them of an actual crime. You're underselling it. The white boy was also kind of rich.
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Cardiac posted:Well, who knows. Swedish politics are weird. eh modern social democrats love it when the right does straight-up market liberal stuff, it inevitably produces disaffection and allows them to snipe to get back some voters without actually having to do anything, their greatest fear
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the hilarious thing about mid-term støre was that he didn't seem to get that he had to oppose stuff, allowing Sp to grow really big from just voicing some obvious and very strong dissatisfaction. it led to an unnecessary electoral defeat before he sort of lamely corrected course.
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V. Illych L. posted:eh modern social democrats love it when the right does straight-up market liberal stuff, it inevitably produces disaffection and allows them to snipe to get back some voters without actually having to do anything, their greatest fear Well that would require S to give up power and not be in the ruling coalition. The last years history in Swedish politics have taught us that for S being in power is the only thing that matters. Which have taught V, MP and C that extortion is a working political tactic. There is a fair chance we will hit a perfect political storm next year with the concrete, electricity and gasoline.
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Cardiac posted:Well that would require S to give up power and not be in the ruling coalition. The last years history in Swedish politics have taught us that for S being in power is the only thing that matters. Which have taught V, MP and C that extortion is a working political tactic. It will turn out that the fuel/plastic waste burned in the concrete factory was more than enough to feed all powerplants in Skåne at max capacity and that the switch of fuel for the oil fired plant in Karlshamn freed up oil to be refined to gasoline by the slightly expanded Preem refinery in Stenungsund. In addition it turned out that importing concrete was actually quite easy when international big consumers had to lower imports due to logistics fuckery or economic downturns. Sweden will of course lose strategic industries and increase it's total carbon footprint even more, but that is just business as usual and all is well in the kingdom.
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Im a bit distressed to find out that the brownblue alliance in my county forced through a decision to sell off apartments owned by the kommunen This obsession with privatizing will be the death of us all McCloud fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Nov 5, 2021 |
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McCloud posted:Im a bit distressed to find out that the brownblue alliance in my county forced through a decision to sell off apartments owned by the kommunen Same, but what is a few billion in cheap rental properties all across the city between friends. 
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Oddly relevant to the S discussion. https://www.svtplay.se/video/33031906/uppdrag-granskning/uppdrag-granskning-avsnitt-28 There is a fair chance for a S bloodbath next election, where both SD and V are positioning themselves.
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https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/stoppa-skadlig-utvinning-av-kryptovalutor-i-sverigequote:Kritik: Fel väg med förbud Wow, the guy whose job is to make money off bitcoin doesn't want a ban on bitcoin. Shocking.
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On the contrary, a ban on crypto would be a GREAT way forward. At least if you have the slightest interest in making the world/country a little bit better. Overhead bits of a crappy interview on tv just now with some awful person who is apparently the new S leader but spent all the time, I could stand listening, going on about corporations and businesses with some "green industry revolution" (that is... happening?), shared some closet-colonial views about immigrants like how they aren't working enough and should do cleaning and servant jobs to become part of swedish society (lol?). I know I live under a rock, for obvious reasons, but is S just M+SD these days? Maybe they should add a second S. I'm too irritated and disgusted to think.
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S has gotten more and more right wing as time has gone on. The latest and incredibly fascist investigation that they want to do and that was presented earlier this week is just a sign of times to come really. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/mikael-damberg-presenterar-ytterligare-atgarder-for-att-bekampa-gangkriminaliteten MP will also jump in bed with with any neo liberal or fascist that give them the slightest bit of attention (see how Stockholm is ruled currently as an example). If you are left leaning you only really have V any more and it's quite depressing.
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Poil posted:I know I live under a rock, for obvious reasons, but is S just M+SD these days? Maybe they should add a second S. I'm too irritated and disgusted to think. Give or take. They've been dominated by the same regressive centrist+right-wing authoritarian close friends group ever since Juholt was chased out. They've been trying to cold-launch a right-wing turn for the better part of the last four years. Party in general is still not comfortable with this shift but as time passes and more leave out of disgust or accommodate out of career interest odds keep going in their favor. I guess we'll see if this is the one that sticks. Reformisterna got their fig-leafs and seem happy so who knows.
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I like how she blamed the "middle class" for empowering criminals by buying drugs and sex, Sweden is really stuck in the 1980s. How about legalizing them instead?
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Cardiac posted:Well, who knows. Swedish politics are weird. One of the lessons from Denmark is that DF really didn't want to be in government because that would make them actually accountable. DF is actually quite good at politics that way, when they are not busy imploding because they have been outracisted by Nye Borgerlige. I assume SD will be equally hesitant to join the actual government, at least if they're halfway smart.
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BonHair posted:One of the lessons from Denmark is that DF really didn't want to be in government because that would make them actually accountable. DF is actually quite good at politics that way, when they are not busy imploding because they have been outracisted by Nye Borgerlige. I would assume so as well. C is playing exactly this game at the moment and it is going well for them.
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Vesi posted:I like how she blamed the "middle class" for empowering criminals by buying drugs and sex, Sweden is really stuck in the 1980s. How about legalizing them instead? I too blame the middle (and upper) class, for moving Sweden rightwards since the 1980s from a functioning social democratic country to a dysfunctrional bourgeoise mess.
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McCloud posted:S really are the Democrats of Sweden The idea that the second most powerful politician in Sweden for the last 7 years becoming prime minister would mean a major reorientation of politics for S seems rather naive.
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Right, because in the last 10 years of Swedish politics radical political shifts infamously don't follow parties getting new leaders. Uh huh, that sure is reality.
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MiddleOne posted:Right, because in the last 10 years of Swedish politics radical political shifts infamously don't follow parties getting new leaders. Uh huh, that sure is reality. So you think Andersson is going to be a pivot of S politics despite her being a major part of it for the last 10 years? Especially given they are the ruling party.
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His Divine Shadow posted:I too blame the middle (and upper) class, for moving Sweden rightwards since the 1980s from a functioning social democratic country to a dysfunctrional bourgeoise mess. Alot of it goes beyond Sweden too. The collapse of bretton woods preceeded the deregulation of our financial sector. Without mutual capital controls there's no way we can maintain what we had.
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