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tinstaach
Aug 3, 2010

MAGNetic AttITUDE


loving Vince Lombardi probably couldn't win a game with that roster.

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Kurgarra Queen
Jun 11, 2008

GIVE ME MORE
SUPER BOWL
WINS

Yeah, the Lions roster is dire and Goff is even worse than everyone thought.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Campbell is not a very good coach but you didn’t hire him for that, you hired him to just exist while you try and build an actual team that will take years.

So firing him accomplishes nothing

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 2000
But the pondering was if a 3rd team would give him a job when this Lions thing ends.

Maybe he becomes the Tank Commander of all bad teams. They are going to lose, but you bring him in because everyone loves him and people want to watch what he says.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
When was the last time a Lions head coach got rehired to that position somewhere else?

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Chris James 2 posted:

They definitely seem like they plan to

But uh they also definitely seem like they plan to keep Goff on the team next year, and I will say that shouldn't happen

Goff's contract isn't cuttable until at least 2023, they're stuck with him even if they bring in competition

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Athanatos posted:

But the pondering was if a 3rd team would give him a job when this Lions thing ends.

Maybe he becomes the Tank Commander of all bad teams. They are going to lose, but you bring him in because everyone loves him and people want to watch what he says.

I mean he’s the perfect candidate if you want to pretend he’s changing the culture or whatever bullshit people convince themselves of before the crushing reality sets in

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
Campbell is there to rebuild the team, and that requires a coach that people actually want to play for. His players love him - he'll stick around.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
No rebuilding requires getting good players. Then when you start winning that’s when everyone pretends there was some culture shift or whatever

Athanatos
Jun 7, 2006

Est. 2000

Probably Magic posted:

When was the last time a Lions head coach got rehired to that position somewhere else?

Good question.

Dick Jauron was interim Lions and then went to Bills.

If that doesn't count...then it's George Wilson in 1964 who went on to become the first coach of the expansion Miami Dolphins.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
Put Staley on the hot seat, he's terrible

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Stefanski is taking the Matt Nagy career route.

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
Someone should be fired just for that final offensive drive where the Broncos, just needing to burn thirty seconds to win, recover their own fumble, make an incomplete pass, then lose a fumble.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

a neat cape posted:

Put Staley on the hot seat, he's terrible

This turned quickly.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
Campbell isn't going anywhere after this year or after next year, thanks for reading my post.

If he doesn't get another HC job after this, he'll be another in a long line of coaches whose careers have gone to Detroit to die.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp
In terms of "Why are the Lions sucking," Campbell ranks pretty low. He's not entirely blameless, and today he made some pretty bad in-game decisions—including the baffling choice to receive the kickoff after winning the coin toss, and a really bad 4th down call right before the half.

But while he's made mistakes, it's still abundantly clear that the core problem is the sheer lack of talent, which has been execrated by the horrendous injuries. When the Lions started the game today, they were without a full half of their starting lineup: LT Taylor Decker, C Frank Ragnow, WR1 Tyrell Williams, WR2 Quintez Cephus, and RB Jamaal Williams (Who's technically listed on the depth chart behind Swift, but currently leads the team in rushing yards, even after today's game). Most teams would struggle to succeed given the sheer breadth and depth of injuries, and the Lions have suffered even further due to the overall lack of talent and depth—Frank Ragnow alone is arguably the single best player on offense, and his absence has severely impacted the running game and what little there is of the passing game.

A bit of Campbell's shine definitely came off this game, but even if the Lions do go 0-17 I think there's very little chance he'll be fired. Bill Belichick would struggle to succeed with this roster and these injuries, and Campbell has managed to keep the team competitive against some of the best competition in the league. The real question is if Campbell continues to make bad mistakes in-game, and if the team is able to remain at least somewhat competitive in the tough games they have coming down the stretch. (Which is gonna be real hard since Goff is a goddamn anchor on this offense. the man cannot loving throw downfield. how the gently caress did mcvay win any games with this)

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Sean McVay is literally the only coach who has ever won a game with Jared Goff.

Not just games, a singular game. Goff is 0-14 under Jeff Fisher and Dan Campbell.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Goff has been so goddamn bad I don't think the Lions can justify continuing to start him. He is blatantly not even a bridge QB, and he's so bad that he's actively preventing you from accurately evaluating the rest of the offense (or the rest of the team for that matter).

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Benne posted:

Sean McVay is literally the only coach who has ever won a game with Jared Goff.

Not just games, a singular game. Goff is 0-14 under Jeff Fisher and Dan Campbell.

McVay is a goddamn genius, I don’t care what anyone says about that Super Bowl.

YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Nov 1, 2021

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

YOLOsubmarine posted:

Goff is a goddamn genius, I don’t care what anyone says about that Super Bowl.

Found Jared's burner account

The really unfortunate thing is that it's not like the Lions have some rookie with promise waiting in the wings—the backups are currently David Blough (Whose stats from his 5 starts in the 2019 Stafford-less season are somehow even worse than Goff's this year, and somehow managed to fumble on his second snap of the handful he got at the very end of the game today), and Green Bay Preseason Champion Tim Boyle, who's still on IR.

The prospects for the rest of this season are very, very bleak.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Acebuckeye13 posted:

Found Jared's burner account

The really unfortunate thing is that it's not like the Lions have some rookie with promise waiting in the wings—the backups are currently David Blough (Whose stats from his 5 starts in the 2019 Stafford-less season are somehow even worse than Goff's this year, and somehow managed to fumble on his second snap of the handful he got at the very end of the game today), and Green Bay Preseason Champion Tim Boyle, who's still on IR.

The prospects for the rest of this season are very, very bleak.

Very bad brain fart. I meant McVay.

Black Sunshine
Apr 4, 2004

LEFT 4 DEAD IS A LOT LIKE FOOTBALL - I JERK OFF TO BOTH

YOLOsubmarine posted:

This turned quickly.

Ross is doing his best Kawalimus impression but he doesn't have the interesting hobby thing going for him.

C+ needs more effort

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Acebuckeye13 posted:

The prospects for the rest of this season are very, very bleak.

Hmmm, glancing at the schedule and trying to come up with the weird win they'll get. I mean it's the NFL, a weird win can happen anytime, but I guess Bears at home is the best chance maybe followed by Vikings at home or Broncos on the road. Going to 1-15 against the Falcons on the road would be funny.

And it's not a particularly hard schedule is the thing that gets me.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Grittybeard posted:

Hmmm, glancing at the schedule and trying to come up with the weird win they'll get. I mean it's the NFL, a weird win can happen anytime, but I guess Bears at home is the best chance maybe followed by Vikings at home or Broncos on the road. Going to 1-15 against the Falcons on the road would be funny.

And it's not a particularly hard schedule is the thing that gets me.

I do think the Lions are going to get at least one win this season, but it's very hard to predict when that win will be. They've shown they can compete against some of the top teams in the league... but also just fell completely flat against one of the worst teams.

So knowing how this season is going, they'll steal one against the Cardinals and then immediately get blown out by Atlanta.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort


Fire every member of the coaching staff into the sun.

Edit, wait, wrong link, try this one too:
https://twitter.com/mikeclaynfl/status/1454993485203968001?s=21

GokuGoesSSj69
Apr 15, 2017
Weak people spend 10 dollars to gift titles about world leaders they dislike. The strong spend 10 dollars to gift titles telling everyone to play Deus Ex again
Stoke the flames for Mike Zimmer.

Paint Crop Pro
Mar 22, 2007

Find someone who values you like Rick Spielman values 7th round picks.



Zimmer got saved by a few clutch kicks but this team is much more 1-6 then 3-4.

Getting out coached by Mike McCarthy should move you into scorching.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
i mean, there's an easy fix to play eight games a season not in north america

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

Black Sunshine posted:

Ross is doing his best Kawalimus impression but he doesn't have the interesting hobby thing going for him.

C+ needs more effort
I hear he is into mock drafts.

Darth Brooks
Jan 15, 2005

I do not wear this mask to protect me. I wear it to protect you from me.

Zim is done. It's been a fun ride but he's cooked and cannot find an OC worth dirt.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Zimmer should be next

Getting owned by Cooper Rush is bad

GokuGoesSSj69
Apr 15, 2017
Weak people spend 10 dollars to gift titles about world leaders they dislike. The strong spend 10 dollars to gift titles telling everyone to play Deus Ex again
If you're a head coach as a defensive specialist and you can't beat a backup qb no one has ever heard of who played at Central Michigan in college you need to go. On top of this his conservative offensive philosophy has run through countless coordinators finally landing on the nepotism hire of his friend Gary's son, Klint Kubiak. Zimmer has to go. Spielman has drafted well but he also signed Cousins and Cook to big long term contracts so I wouldn't mind a complete house cleaning.

Tom Sellout
May 27, 2011

$240 million of Johnny Walker Blue and Throatzilla's services.
The dire irony with Zimmer is that he finally managed to find a realiable kicker. C'est la vie

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Tom Sellout posted:

The dire irony with Zimmer is that he finally managed to find a realiable kicker. C'est la vie
Extreme monkey paw energy

SirPablo
May 1, 2004

Pillbug
Unless Zimmer wins the SB he's gone. Playoffs alone won't save him.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

Yes, it's Omar but Flores' record is still poo poo.
https://twitter.com/OmarKelly/status/1455520320274771971

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
Sparano, I miss that little meatball.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

The NFL fires back at Joe Judge. "User Error"
https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1455597199740612611

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable

I don't buy it. My poo poo rear end general Electric mri fucks up CONSTANTLY and they always just come back saying everything looks fine!

Never trust the word of those who are liable to fix it.

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Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
Anyway Dan Campbell should be on the hot seat for getting clowned by the sirachi flower eagles.

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