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Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

fez_machine posted:

The internet/vulture capital completely gutted foreign affairs reporting. The old model of thousands of smaller newspapers paying for agency/news wire reporting no longer exists and there's been belt tightening on international reporters all around for the last 15 years.

For most international conflicts why have a reporter on the ground when there's think tank analysts and the internet doing work for you and besides local and national news is what most people want to hear (especially in a pandemic)?

I see what you're saying, but international reporting of conflicts absolutely still exists, even for the less-sexy conflicts. BBC and Al-Jazeera come immediately to mind, while wire news services have people coming reports from all over. Even in Syria outlets would take about "unconfirmed reports" based on some YouTube video, but in Ethiopia I don't see even that.

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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

Reuters is still doing tons of excellent Africa reporting, in my opinion they are unmatched in terms of getting the news itself.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Reuters is still doing tons of excellent Africa reporting, in my opinion they are unmatched in terms of getting the news itself.

in Ethiopia or "Africa"?

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

I mean across the continent, in terms of quality and quantity of English-language content aimed at foreign audiences. AFP is about as good, actually. AP does good reporting but it's slowed to a trickle. Same with BBC. Al Jazeera tends to be second to the punch or just offers takes. NYT has an exclusive story now and then but the rest of the time it's long pieces that spend a lot of time explaining background, it's rare that they are first to break. Bloomberg is good now and then as well but most of their reporting is on forex, FDI, business.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

I mean across the continent, in terms of quality and quantity of English-language content aimed at foreign audiences. AFP is about as good, actually. AP does good reporting but it's slowed to a trickle. Same with BBC. Al Jazeera tends to be second to the punch or just offers takes. NYT has an exclusive story now and then but the rest of the time it's long pieces that spend a lot of time explaining background, it's rare that they are first to break. Bloomberg is good now and then as well but most of their reporting is on forex, FDI, business.

Addis Standard is good, they’ve been arrested 30 times under the junta and abiy so they they’re honest.

There’s rumors that the president of Djibouti has died, especially sad since he had just won his fifth consecutive term with a landslide 97 percent of the vote. His eldest daughter is expected to be “democratically” elected as the next president.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

I mean across the continent, in terms of quality and quantity of English-language content aimed at foreign audiences. AFP is about as good, actually. AP does good reporting but it's slowed to a trickle. Same with BBC. Al Jazeera tends to be second to the punch or just offers takes. NYT has an exclusive story now and then but the rest of the time it's long pieces that spend a lot of time explaining background, it's rare that they are first to break. Bloomberg is good now and then as well but most of their reporting is on forex, FDI, business.

The Economist does good original reporting and has several weekly articles on every geographic region of the world. It tends to be focused on trade, but it often covers major development projects, elections, and wars. It's just not going to do like a human interest story. Jeune Afrique also does good original reporting, but (a) is in French and (b) almost exclusively covers Francophone countries + West & North Africa, so you won't see much on like Ethiopia or Mozambique there.

Vice does good video reporting too, or maybe did? I don't know whether they shuttered their international reporting or not, but they cover(ed) random places globally, occasionally report from somewhere in Africa.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1438300670927544323

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

nigeria raised its VAT from 5% to 7.5% about eighteen months ago and it looks like some of the public works projects it was intended to fund are coming to fruition. i like the effort at transparency

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Tweet no longer exists. What was it?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

nice av

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1438539900895350789

ok, whatever

Spacewolf
May 19, 2014
From the AP:

US threatens sanctions against officials in Tigray conflict

Or, the tweet link in case my direct link doesn't work:

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1438844839471325186

Not sure what to think, tbh.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

i say swears online posted:

nigeria raised its VAT from 5% to 7.5% about eighteen months ago and it looks like some of the public works projects it was intended to fund are coming to fruition. i like the effort at transparency



Seems to be also good for buying Land Cruisers

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/addisstandard/status/1438845405589086212

ONLF withdraws from Ethiopian elections,

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005



my friend is a party leader for a new populist party in south africa and i'm hrrmming at his conjecture

the first two points are debatable, the third point is true, and the fourth is oh no buddy we gotta talk

he's been firmly anti-ramaphosa and malema but this post is pushing me back into the EFF camp

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


First two seem to be confused about the role of the party vs the state in a slightly worrying manner.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

my understanding of the ANC is that it's just 100% a patronage machine

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010
I heard back from the guy I know in Lalibela; he was my tour guide there for a couple days in early 2020 and I'd kept in touch with him and chatted occasionally. It looks like even they don't really have better lines of information about what's going on locally.

Instagram message on March 2021:
Me: [first time messaging related to the war] "Hi [his name], just found you on Instagram [we had exchanged messages on WhatsApp or TripAdvisor before, and IG randomly suggested him as a contact, probably because his phone # is in my address book]! I hope you're doing well and that things are starting to return to normal. It has been a long time, feel like years. How have things been in Lalibela with the war?"
[same day, a couple hours later]
Him: "Hello [my name]. How are you doing its nice to meeting you again. Here I am fine but it was a boring sitaution. Please pass my greetings to your wife and dad."

August 6 2021:
Me: "Hi [his name], hope you're able to stay safe... I just saw the news about Lalibela."

Sept 19 2021:
Him: "Hello dear friend. I hope this letter finds you are in good health. Here I wrote the message to reach out how I am in a trible [sic for all spelling & punctuation] situation, it has been a month since I am running place to place to save my life from the northern ethiopia civil war which is started 10 months ago in Tigray between TPLF and Central government that expanded to the nebor Amahara and Afar regions. by the reason of the war many los their lives, hundred and thousands displaced from there home, womans and children many more suffering from the hunger. "

Next message, a few minutes later: "The politicians back ethiopian to the dark age. During the 10 month war destroyed many schools, hospitals, electricity and telecommunications we even don't know when it ends. at the moment there is no chance to communicate with families friends and relatives. luckily I moved 70 km far from Lalibela that I stayed one big family house in the village for two weeks and the other three weeks, i continued some more distance, then I joined dozens of peoples slept in the Church. I have never seen such a worst time in my life.
The worst I struggled to let out myself from hearing heavy wepon sound and leave the war zone took me 10 hours in a very hard walk across many rivers and high mountain.
Finally I reached Bahar Dar safely but currently I just need some your help. I really appreciate the concern and attention. Hope to head good news from you.
[his name]"


I included the March message just because the main issue for Lalibela at the time was boredom (lack of tourists) and how quickly it can change. Anyway I'm going to Western Union him some $$ but it sounds like he just got to Bahir Dar and most likely this is the first time he's had Internet access, given his timeline since early August ("stayed in family village for 2 weeks / then another family village for 3 weeks / then somehow got to Bahir Dar in the last week"). Anyway, hopefully for him things now return soon to "life is boring". His comment about how war+COVID disrupted Lalibela in March (i.e. very little, except reduced interactions with foreigners and reduced income) reminds me of that apocryphal Chinese curse "may you live in interesting times."

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Spacewolf posted:

From the AP:

US threatens sanctions against officials in Tigray conflict

Or, the tweet link in case my direct link doesn't work:

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1438844839471325186

Not sure what to think, tbh.

I'd maybe have an OK view of sanctions if there were one single instance of them working in 70 years

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

icantfindaname posted:

I'd maybe have an OK view of sanctions if there were one single instance of them working in 70 years

The goal of sanctions is always hurt the civilians. It's a test tactic to get the populace to turn against the military or cooperation.

It is bad

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

icantfindaname posted:

I'd maybe have an OK view of sanctions if there were one single instance of them working in 70 years

Apartheid South Africa? :devil:

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

Meanwhile in Mozambique, Rwandan forces capture northern rebel stronghold.

I find it interesting how Rwanda and Uganda seem ready to deploy troops to relatively far-flung conflicts around the continent. It also speaks to how weak the government in Maputo is in the northern part of the country that they have to call in backup from a thousand km away.

al-Jazeera posted:

Rwandan forces deployed last month to help Mozambique’s army battle rebels said on Sunday they have recaptured control of the key northern port of Mocimboa da Praia from the armed group.
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The port town, from where the first rebel attacks were staged in October 2017, has since last year become the de facto headquarters of a rebel armed group, locally referred to as al-Shabab.

Mocimboa da Praia “was the last stronghold of the insurgents, marking the end of the first phase of counter-insurgency operations which is dislodging insurgents from the stronghold”, Rwivanga said in a text message.

Rwanda sent in 1,000 soldiers last month to shore up Mozambican military forces that have been struggling to regain control over the northern Cabo Delgado province, which is home to one of Africa’s biggest liquefied natural gas projects.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/8/rwanda-mozambique-forces-recapture-port-city-from-rebels

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Saladman posted:

The Economist does good original reporting and has several weekly articles on every geographic region of the world. It tends to be focused on trade, but it often covers major development projects, elections, and wars. It's just not going to do like a human interest story.

Was it this thread or the South Africa thread where someone posted an Economist article following a family in an unusually poor rural town and screaming about how they were all welfare queens because they got just enough support from the government to be able to eat the cheapest meat available once a month on Sunday? It segued right into arguing that the South African government was spending too much on social welfare (proportionally less than any Western country, and vastly less in absolute terms), and the solution was just to tax businesses less.

Yeah I wouldn't call the Economist's reporting "good". It's very clearly got a neoliberal axe to grind.



KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

my understanding of the ANC is that it's just 100% a patronage machine

I'm not saying the ANC doesn't have a patronage problem, because they definitely do, to varying degrees across the country. But this is one helluva take.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Was it this thread or the South Africa thread where someone posted an Economist article following a family in an unusually poor rural town and screaming about how they were all welfare queens because they got just enough support from the government to be able to eat the cheapest meat available once a month on Sunday? It segued right into arguing that the South African government was spending too much on social welfare (proportionally less than any Western country, and vastly less in absolute terms), and the solution was just to tax businesses less.

Like any newspaper, The Economist has an editorial slant but it is... not even remotely the take you describe. The Economist is hugely in favor of expanding no-strings-attached cash welfare payments to poor people. E: For instance, check any of their articles about Brazil's similar program within the last year. I don't remember the article you're talking about for South Africa and such an article did not immediately show up when I looked ( https://www.economist.com/search?q=South+Africa ) but I didn't look very hard.

Saladman fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Sep 28, 2021

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Saladman posted:

Like any newspaper, The Economist has an editorial slant but it is... not even remotely the take you describe. The Economist is hugely in favor of expanding no-strings-attached cash welfare payments to poor people. E: For instance, check any of their articles about Brazil's similar program within the last year. I don't remember the article you're talking about for South Africa and such an article did not immediately show up when I looked ( https://www.economist.com/search?q=South+Africa ) but I didn't look very hard.

Huh. You're right. It was Bloomberg.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-02-24/lamb-for-12-on-400-monthly-shows-south-africa-welfare-addiction

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

https://www.businessinsider.com/melania-trump-wanted-to-send-mirrors-to-african-children-book-2021-10

quote:

Melania Trump wanted to send full-length mirrors to African children so they could 'see that they are very strong,' book says

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/Yonigussie/status/1446423295528669184

"Law enforcement operation", capture junta, "we're in Mekelle so it is over and won". Invite Eritrea and FANO who then commit a little ethnic cleansing. Round and Round we go.

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1446639918625837057

PawParole fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Oct 9, 2021

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

Sudan :smith:

At least people are out in the streets about it...

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1453929507359019011

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1454454707628429315

To name a few reasons (approximately from simplest to more complicated):

1 The terrain around Dessie is ideal for fortification. Many hills to guard the city and to place defenses atop of.
2 Once Dessie is down Kombulcha has no chance since Kombulcha is downhill and doesn't have the same protective terrain that Dessie has.
3 The Dessie-Kombulcha metro area is by far the largest urban area between Weldiya and Addis Ababa. The next largest is Debre Birhan which has 1/4th of the people that Dessie-Kombulcha has with a lot less fortification. On top of that it is only 4- 80-90 miles away from Addis Ababa. Once Dessie-Kombulcha are passed the war is essentially at the door steps of Addis Ababa.
5- With Weldiya and Dessie-Kombulcha taken there are no major routes to/from Afar/Djibouti from/to Bahir Dar or Gondar that don't go near Addis Ababa where OLA has a lot of presence and where TDF will be soon. This begins to cut the war theater in half. Which in turn would make it a lot harder for ENDF to enforce the blockade from the Afar side and Sudan at the same time.
6- Since the war most likely moves to Debre Birhan after Kombulcha it sets TDF up to be able to move west and cut off Amhara region from both Addis Ababa and Afar. It also allows TDF to move west towards Bahir Dir if they want to force ENDF & Fano to spread out and away from Addis.


It's also important to mention that, 10 days after the Italians captured Dessie, Emperor Haile Selassie fled to Djibouti and then to th UK with his family.

Another example is, 3 days after the TPLF and their much smaller allied forces captured Dessie, Haile Mariam, the leader of the derg regime fled to Kenya and then to Zimbabwe.

PawParole fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 30, 2021

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1454792688532922376

https://twitter.com/Yonigussie/stat...%5Es1_&ref_url=

now that Kombolcha has fallen, the ENDF will either fall back or be destroyed

https://twitter.com/omarhuseiin/sta...%5Es1_&ref_url=

sorry for posting so much, updates though

freeasinbeer
Mar 26, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
Don’t be sorry. Sometimes stuff happens fast and as before we don’t have much to contribute but appreciate yours.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



I appreciate the update posts, I just don't know almost anything about Ethiopia so I don't have anything to add.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1454866118229774338

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1454867605236355073

https://twitter.com/OromiaWarUpdate/status/1454934848737615875

https://twitter.com/OdaaTarbiiWBO/s...imWxpLg26s%3D19

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

I'm gonna guess this failed attempt at centralization-turned-civil war is going to set back Ethiopia's infrastructure efforts back a decade?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1455056375726419975

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1455211322199642116

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

Tsadkan recently did a long interview in which he supposedly reveals some of his ideas for the future of the country. Sadly, I have found no english translation. Does anyone in this thread have the necessary language skills to help?

(Not asking for a play-by-play, because the :effort: would be gigantic. Just, is he pushing for independent Tigray republic or something?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0znM0zm7nj8

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1455280168583507969

Tuna-Fish posted:

Tsadkan recently did a long interview in which he supposedly reveals some of his ideas for the future of the country. Sadly, I have found no english translation. Does anyone in this thread have the necessary language skills to help?

(Not asking for a play-by-play, because the :effort: would be gigantic. Just, is he pushing for independent Tigray republic or something?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0znM0zm7nj8

dont speal tigray, sorry

PawParole fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Nov 1, 2021

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PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/MapEthiopia/status/1455553147057881099

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