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MA-Horus posted:Excuse me Excuse me That's "Convicted Felon Conrad Moffat Black, Baron Black of [Ideally The Bottom of] Crossharbour" to you
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Oct 31, 2021 23:52
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B33rChiller posted:And probably more insects The animal ag industry claiming "protein" is as bad a the oil and gas sector claiming "energy". You don't have to construct a horrible rube goldberg scenario where you feed critters then grind them up into protein powder. DrBox fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Nov 1, 2021 |
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Nov 1, 2021 00:28
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B33rChiller posted:And probably more insects Good news, meat is really jumping in price so it's just a matter of time. Costco chicken thighs were $1.50 more expensive this weekend than the last time we went about a month ago. I think they'll shut down before they raise the price of their rotisserie chickens by a single cent though.
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Nov 1, 2021 13:26
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/affordable-housing-strategy-not-about-privatization-minister-says-1.6233210 The UCP are selling off the government's affordable housing stock to private for-profit companies, but that is somehow not privatization. Down the road we are 100% going to find out they were sold to donors at a fraction of market value, with a majority of them being converted into overpriced standard housing units and loving nothing will happen.
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Nov 2, 2021 00:16
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https://twitter.com/robertbenzie/status/1455316933415522314 Still going to vote your rear end out.
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Nov 2, 2021 00:35
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lol that was one of the first things the PCs cancelled when they took office. Their internal polling numbers must be dire if they’re bringing this out.
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Nov 2, 2021 04:12
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Mr. Apollo posted:lol that was one of the first things the PCs cancelled when they took office. Their internal polling numbers must be dire if they’re bringing this out. Literally the same thing my dad said to me when he told me about this. poo poo must be dire if theyre willing to go back on their promise to Struggling Small Business OwnersTM to not raise the min wage any more.
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Nov 2, 2021 05:22
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The tied to inflation thing is kind of big if true.
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Nov 2, 2021 06:53
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DynamicSloth posted:The tied to inflation thing is kind of big if true. The federal liberals are going to get beat over the head with the inflation thing.
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Nov 2, 2021 07:16
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Powershift posted:https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/affordable-housing-strategy-not-about-privatization-minister-says-1.6233210 The government ditching ownership of affordable housing is like the opposite direction of what they should be doing. They should be buying and building more units, not selling them off ffs. Logically the only reason a for-profit developer would buy (apparently) shoddy units would be to...make a profit on them yes? And if a non-profit can buy them and make them work why can't the government? UnknownMercenary posted:https://twitter.com/robertbenzie/status/1455316933415522314 At this point $15/hour is obsolete and is not a living wage in most places. I'm guessing that it should be closer to $20 now. Automatic inflation increases is nice though.
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Nov 2, 2021 13:06
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Fidelitious posted:The government ditching ownership of affordable housing is like the opposite direction of what they should be doing. They should be buying and building more units, not selling them off ffs. Who determines what inflation is though? We already know that the numbers tossed around by economists are not what real inflation is. This just means they will never acknowledge inflation ever again.
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Nov 2, 2021 13:16
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Talked to my brother about the minimum wage increase. This is what he replied with:quote:Increasing wages will only drive inflation. Minimum wage should never be above 8.50. Reduction of inflation and keeping living in check isn't solved by putting more money in the system it can only be fixed by social reform. They want to increase wages because then more people will be able to borrow. The thought is if more people can borrow they can get into homes but that's just a lie. Real estate makes 30-50% of Canada's GDP so our governments want Canadians to borrow more so they'll buy overinflated houses. If people are buying overpriced houses we can say look our economy is growing. I mean yeah, social reform would be great but none of the parties are interested in fixing the problem with reform so keeping minimum at $8.50 like he suggests seems utterly insane to me given the circumstances.
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Nov 2, 2021 13:28
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"Minimum wage increases drive inflation" has got to be the most widespread "dumbass thing that only morons think".
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Nov 2, 2021 13:32
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Fidelitious posted:At this point $15/hour is obsolete and is not a living wage in most places. I'm guessing that it should be closer to $20 now. The only reason Wynne campaigned on 15 was because Canadian politics always has to take cues from American politics and there's been a long time fight to raise the American minimum wage to $15. $15 isn't enough in either country; IIRC it should be something closer to $25 USD if wages kept pace with inflation since the 70s, which is ~$31 CAD. People here already poo poo themselves when it went up to $14 and I legit had co-workers mad that their pay went up because bosses cut hours.
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Nov 2, 2021 14:59
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Arc Hammer posted:Talked to my brother about the minimum wage increase. This is what he replied with: You could for example show him a graph of inflation overlaid on a graph of minimum wage increases since, IDK, 1970 or so. If he still comes away thinking minimum wage is driving inflation, look into a conservatorship for him.
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Nov 2, 2021 15:19
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Imagine working at McDonalds and making $8.50 and having someone come through and order a big mac meal that costs about 1.25x your hourly wage.
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Nov 2, 2021 15:54
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I'm sorry, your brother has a terminal case of rich dipshititis. We could try a salvage therapy of forcing him to labor for $8.50/hr, but the kindest thing might be an amputation of the brain by guillotine.
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Nov 2, 2021 17:02
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My brother and I agree on a lot of stuff but whenever the topic of wages comes up we're diametrically opposed.
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Nov 2, 2021 17:20
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It's pretty much a litmus test for critical thinking. "why should easy jobs pay more than i make at my hard job" "if people make more money, things will cost more every year" "i made $3 an hour in 1970 and i did fine" "if the minimum wage is too high, companies will go elsewhere"
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Nov 2, 2021 17:44
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For some reason I'd thought the BC government already did this ??? Maybe what I'd read before was something at a more informal level? (ie. "we're talking with the Health Minister about blah blah") It sounds like something has changed at the Federal level, and the Feds asked the Province to lead, and come up with something concrete that they can rubber stamp. Possibly because decriminalization has a super majority of support in recent polling. At least I'd like to think this is getting a rubber stamp approval. quote:B.C. finalizes submission to decriminalize drug possession Dr. Bonnie Henry on the CBC radio this morning talking about this. Stephen Quinn noted that in 2019 Henry had put out a report suggesting that the BC government should amend its policing act (or something like that) to try to get to the same decriminalization place and asked why the government wasn't pursuing that. Henry said that in 2019 the Feds were a lot less interested and suggested that something had changed recently. This is "doing it the best way." *waves hands* I've heard drug user advocates mention that BC could do a lot more just by itself. That's interesting to me but kind of surprising. Like a province can tell the RCMP to *not* follow some Federal law? That doesn't seem right. Perhaps if it was a wholly provincial act it would be more around policing direction? But if the RCMP did find drugs on you after arresting you, they are obligated to charge you under the federal laws?
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Nov 2, 2021 18:17
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https://twitter.com/cspotweet/status/1455582327690522625?s=20
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Nov 2, 2021 18:39
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Im assuming this is the real life version of that tweet about reaping and sowing?
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Nov 2, 2021 19:07
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I worry about the minimum wage being tied to inflation. It sounds nice, but if you start off at an already unlivable wage, even if it goes up every year with a realistic amount for inflation, you will still be permanently stuck with an unlivable wage that no politician will touch again because "It goes up every year!"
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Nov 2, 2021 19:12
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DrBox posted:I worry about the minimum wage being tied to inflation. It sounds nice, but if you start off at an already unlivable wage, even if it goes up every year with a realistic amount for inflation, you will still be permanently stuck with an unlivable wage that no politician will touch again because "It goes up every year!" Look at this guy making things better instead of just slowing the pace of getting worse.
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Nov 2, 2021 19:19
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DrBox posted:I worry about the minimum wage being tied to inflation. It sounds nice, but if you start off at an already unlivable wage, even if it goes up every year with a realistic amount for inflation, you will still be permanently stuck with an unlivable wage that no politician will touch again because "It goes up every year!" My bigger issue is that there’s no metric for inflation that is meaningful to regular people. It’s decided upon by those who use it to benefit capital over workers. If inflation was calculated based on real things that everyone has to have like food, shelter, energy etc then maybe it would be useful for this. They purposefully exclude all of those things and then announce inflation is at 2.2% while we pay 20% more for real things we need.
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Nov 2, 2021 19:39
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Furnaceface posted:Im assuming this is the real life version of that tweet about reaping and sowing? Her post basically says the people who gathered outside her house and expressed their desire to hang her because she was involved in making them wear masks are doing it because they're scared and we need to speak with them to understand why they're so afraid. Then she lists a bunch of valid reasons not to get vaccinated that I'd guess 0 of the people who are attending rallies with nooses would qualify for. e: and then people in the comments tell her she deserved it
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Nov 2, 2021 19:46
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Why would both sides do this?
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Nov 2, 2021 20:09
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Noblesse Obliged posted:My bigger issue is that there’s no metric for inflation that is meaningful to regular people. It’s decided upon by those who use it to benefit capital over workers. Stephanie Kelton and a host of modern monetary theory economists literally do this, including accounting for differences in employment rate based on race and gender.
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Nov 2, 2021 20:31
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half cocaine posted:Stephanie Kelton and a host of modern monetary theory economists literally do this, including accounting for differences in employment rate based on race and gender. Do you think Doug Ford will be increasing min wage based on Stephanie Kelton? Oh wait. She’s one of those “this is all transitory!” ghouls Noblesse Obliged fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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Nov 2, 2021 20:40
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https://twitter.com/KevinCTV/status/1455601031950344195 In the most shocking move ever, Kenney is now throwing Hinshaw under the bus. he's probably going to find an excuse to get rid of Yiu, too.
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Nov 2, 2021 20:53
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Powershift posted:https://twitter.com/KevinCTV/status/1455601031950344195 He's not going to get rid of Hinshaw. This is the third or fourth time he's tossed her in front of a moving train. She just rolls over and takes it out of some deluded effort to hold down the fort so someone worse doesn't fill the spot. Hinshaw sucks but if Kenney caused her to resign it would jam another spike into his chances of getting re elected. "Premier rejects science, hires yes-man" the headlines write themselves.
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Nov 2, 2021 21:02
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Noblesse Obliged posted:Do you think Doug Ford will be increasing min wage based on Stephanie Kelton? oh well back to austerity I guess
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Nov 2, 2021 21:03
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Lol Manitoba https://twitter.com/bkives/status/1455618673977221126?t=Wtrn2-yFqNU5seWe2YG9TQ&s=19
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Nov 2, 2021 21:14
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brucio posted:Lol Manitoba Canadian Conservatives are always trying to be a cargo cult of US politicians. It's nearly sad, but also nearly hilarious. I can never decide which. In other political news, I was reflecting today how Canadian society has failed to fall apart after the legalization of cannabis but it has definitely made me appreciate the music of Mastodon a lot more. Thanks a lot, Trudeau.
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Nov 2, 2021 21:31
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I think most of the problematic people are smoking too little cannabis, not too much. You don't go round an MLA's house and set up nooses if you're stoned, you sit on the couch and listen to music whilst eating Hawkins Cheezies. Far from legal weed, we need mandatory weed.
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Nov 2, 2021 22:58
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PT6A posted:I think most of the problematic people are smoking too little cannabis, not too much. I may be late to the party on this but I recently heard about frozen Hawkins Cheezies and I have tried them now and they are delicious.
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Nov 2, 2021 23:14
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CopywrightMMXI posted:I may be late to the party on this but I recently heard about frozen Hawkins Cheezies and I have tried them now and they are delicious. WTF
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Nov 2, 2021 23:44
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Freezing things makes them taste like chalk to me. They taste fine normally. Now I'm wondering what they'd be like if I heated them in a toaster oven for a few minutes.
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Nov 2, 2021 23:50
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Hawkins Cheezies are the most Canadian of all snack foods, it is known.
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Nov 3, 2021 00:23
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PT6A posted:Hawkins Cheezies are the most Canadian of all snack foods, it is known. Hickory Sticks  Right now most provinces have Conservative premiers, but theyre all in the gutter for approval ratings. Other than Alberta and Saskatchewan what other provinces seem likely to stay Con comes the next provincial election?
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Nov 3, 2021 02:44
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