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My co-op recommendations: Phasmophobia is super fun, and I've heard good things about the knock off with mummies. Demeo is decent enough for a try, IMO. I haven't played them, but Star Trek: Bridge Crew and Payday seem fun.
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Oh, yeah, I'll +1 Demeo. Once you beat a setting that's kind of it for that setting? But it's still fun working up to that, and it's more accessible now there's a save option.
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Is Steamteam VR any good? Because the regular game is a blast with other people on mobile. You’re basically a crew running a ship on a bridge and you have to give each other insanely tv sci-fi commands https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du1h3PTLddw
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Is Steamteam VR any good? Because the regular game is a blast with other people on mobile. You’re basically a crew running a ship on a bridge and you have to give each other insanely tv sci-fi commands Oh poo poo, I loved Space Team, thanks for the lead on this one.
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Booyah- posted:I haven't kept up with VR in a while but my friend just got a headset, any good co-op games out there? Space Pirate Arena. You are gonna need a really big clear area and a wifi signal to play it.
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Nocheez posted:I think you've hit on the next Big Thing here. Being able to watch a game is fun, being able to VR yourself into the space is even better. I don't want to play Rocket League in VR, but I think it would be awesome to be able to sit in virtual stands for Pro RLCS games and heckle with my buddies next to me. Or you might just float around without affecting the environment at all, just watching the game at your own pace. I agree this is the only good, novel idea I've heard for a "metaverse" in years. Ghost drop in multiplayer mandatory for every new quest game would actually be very cool, it's just an extension of current streaming they've already put into everything. That being said, it's not as mind blowing as they want, just a cool new feature they could put in to iterate towards what they want.
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Windows 11 quest 2 airlink trip report: Like a dumbass I decided to try windows 11 and had a terrible time with VR. I’ve got a 9900k and a 3080 powering a quest 2 with airlink. Windows 11 was installed as a fresh install on a formatted drive, rather than an upgrade. The main problem I had was that ASW refused to ever kick in. I tried a few oculus games and a few steam vr games and the ones where I can maintain 90fps were fine but games where I couldn’t it would just never kick in, meaning things got jittery and lovely real quick. I tried the test channel version of the desktop software and had the same problems. Non-vr game performance was identical to windows 10, no issues there. Only VR games that are heavy enough to require the use of ASW. Went back to windows 10 and everything is good again.
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EbolaIvory posted:Because if you only ever hit drums you'd get bored as gently caress. Every music games shifts around a bit and thankfully rag understands what makes sense to hit poo poo to and don't. Its one of those "know the song and it makes sense" Kinda things. Audica suffers a lot from this. And either way, varying what I have to do when the song is not changing is just aggravating. For a dance game it makes sense, but for a game where you're ostensibly playing an instrument it just throws me off completely. Booyah- posted:I haven't kept up with VR in a while but my friend just got a headset, any good co-op games out there?
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GutBomb posted:Windows 11 quest 2 airlink trip report: I had a lovely time with the earlier betas of Windows 11 with a Quest 2, too. I wrote about it in the Windows 11 thread, but basically what happened was I upgraded to Windows 11 and suddenly I was getting tons and tons of dropped frames from the compositor. It was dropping around 1 in 3 frames. I have a 5900x and a 2070s, and the 2070s cant do everything but it shouldn't have been that awful. I assumed it was the beta adding some latency as a part of the telemetry, or from some other extra diagnostics, but now that RTM is out I'm hearing from multiple people that they're still running into similar problems. Same deal though, going back to Windows 10 fixed everything. Though lately I swear I'm getting some minor stuttering in games that shouldn't be there, and only seemed to start after updating the Quest, Oculus software and the gpu driver. But I cant actually find any evidence of it other than seeing it myself, compositor isn't dropping frames, games themselves arent dropping frames, everything stays a solid 120fps yet it doesn't look like it. Kinda like that jagged almost ghosting in HL Alyx, or like the boxes not always looking like they're moving all that smoothly in beat saber.
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I think I periodically wander into these VR threads to ask this whenever something major enters the news cycle, so here it goes again: how far are we from AR/VR offering a meaningful productivity platform? I assume a headset will have trouble replacing a couple dedicated, high-resolution monitors in terms of fidelity, but if it's good enough, the flexibility of not being stuck with just a couple fixed viewports could make it a real competition. I want to array my VS Code, browser tabs, and misc. apps across my virtual world, pulling one in or just leaning closer if I need to focus on it. And then there's the comfort of having the thing strapped to your face for hours on end... I imagine that'd usher in a whole new set of neck issues for anyone trying to actually use it for productivity.
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Speaking of AR/VR news, I wanted to mention Antony's XR newsletter (his site is here) to which I subscribe to make sure I don't miss anything. His newsletter is an excellent way to keep up on all the developments; it's always a great wrapup of news.
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Cugel the Clever posted:I think I periodically wander into these VR threads to ask this whenever something major enters the news cycle, so here it goes again: how far are we from AR/VR offering a meaningful productivity platform? I assume a headset will have trouble replacing a couple dedicated, high-resolution monitors in terms of fidelity, but if it's good enough, the flexibility of not being stuck with just a couple fixed viewports could make it a real competition. I want to array my VS Code, browser tabs, and misc. apps across my virtual world, pulling one in or just leaning closer if I need to focus on it. https://immersed.com/
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Fidelity is at the level of "good enough" with Quest 2, it's mostly a matter of the software needing to improve. Facebook/Meta are pushing PWAs and Android apps, but with the Quest's barebones window management it's not any better than a triple monitor setup (with painfully limited app support). There are options to stream windows from from a desktop PC with tools like Immersed as well as keyboard "passthrough" options. It's still early and it's not at the point where even I feel comfortable switching to a full VR desktop, though.
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Edit: ^^^^^^ I still don't really get the ask for being able to see your keyboard, touch typing + eyehole if you really need it are already totally fineCugel the Clever posted:I think I periodically wander into these VR threads to ask this whenever something major enters the news cycle, so here it goes again: how far are we from AR/VR offering a meaningful productivity platform? I assume a headset will have trouble replacing a couple dedicated, high-resolution monitors in terms of fidelity, but if it's good enough, the flexibility of not being stuck with just a couple fixed viewports could make it a real competition. I want to array my VS Code, browser tabs, and misc. apps across my virtual world, pulling one in or just leaning closer if I need to focus on it. It depends on what your threshold is. About two years ago, I was able to get meaningful work done in virtual desktop when I didn't have access to a regular desk setup, though I don't use it now that I do (it helps that I'm a one monitor neanderthal) Imo the optics for text at desktop sizes aren't quite good enough for it to be really comfortable, the text needs to be a bit larger than it would be if you were just using a normal monitor at a normal viewing distance, and the peripherals aren't quite good enough to get around needing to turn your head a bit to get everything in focus. I think with the Quest 2 the resolution would probably be good enough, but at those text sizes the optics are noticeably not totally sharp As far as comfort and environment I think the current headsets would be good enough otherwise
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Lemming posted:Edit: ^^^^^^ I still don't really get the ask for being able to see your keyboard, touch typing + eyehole if you really need it are already totally fine I shift around a lot and found myself fumbling to find where the keyboard was located pretty often. Eyehole helps but it's still an annoyance.
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I’d guess we’ll see AR monitors used for typical desktop workloads before VR sees a lot of adoption for desktop style workloads, maybe in 2 or 3 years. Even then it’ll probably have some compromises and not be wanted in all circumstances.
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Butt Discussin posted:I’d guess we’ll see AR monitors used for typical desktop workloads before VR sees a lot of adoption for desktop style workloads, maybe in 2 or 3 years. Even then it’ll probably have some compromises and not be wanted in all circumstances. Other way around, imo. VR development exists well ahead of AR, and for what you'd be wanting AR for in an office environment why would you want to stare at your own office all day when you can be literally anywhere else virtually?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Other way around, imo. VR development exists well ahead of AR, and for what you'd be wanting AR for in an office environment why would you want to stare at your own office all day when you can be literally anywhere else virtually? I paid good money for those anime posters and by God photons from them are going directly into my eyes
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The current obstacle to VR productivity is comfort, I guess. It has to feel much more 'invisible' to me to have the headset plugged in for 5 hours in a row.
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BrainDance posted:
I've noticed the same thing, and it only happened after I factory reset my quest 2 about a week ago (the day I bought resident evil 4). Noticed it playing risk of rain 2 VR. It felt like lag, almost, but all of my stats regarding my stream were fine and not out of ordinary
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Wow if you ignore all the old oculus headsets, the Quest 2 has more market share than everything else combined Coming up on 2% ownership across all active steam survey users, wow, I thought we were still under 1% Quest 2 just ground the rest of the industry into a fine paste, lmao Extra curious to see what the pro model looks like ... Next year? Especially if it's not tied to Facebook account
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Tied to a meta account ain’t exactly going to be much different.
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Hadlock posted:Wow if you ignore all the old oculus headsets, the Quest 2 has more market share than everything else combined It's probably much worse than you think if you consider that's only the Quest 2's that are being linked to Steam. A whole lot more will have never gone near a PC at all. The hard truth is your market share for a PCVR headset is limited to "people with a gaming PC". Which is a subset to begin with of "owns a PC", and its growth is limited right now because *gesticulates frantically at GPU market and COVID loving logistics of everything*. The Quest 2's market share, on the other hand, is "Anyone with the money for a Quest 2". Which is a whole lot more people. And the Meta account means squat, it's the same poo poo just in a different container. Just one that's filled by all the smaller containers like Facebook and Oculus.
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It reached 2.3% on May, but on June there was a 'big' correction, to 1.86%. Then another 0.3% drop in August. We are still recovering.
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As long as it means that you don't have to go through the charade of engaging with Facebook and also won't have every single Quest on the planet personally bricked for yourself by being banned from Facebook then that's really what matters from most people's perspective.
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I mean it’s still a 100% Facebook run account under a new name with possibly less direct social aspects. The idea of an individual account tied to nothing outside of the device itself is simply not the direction Facebook will ever go for considering the direction they are pushing the Quest line.
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Is there a way to convert your quest login from FB to Meta? Obviously I could just make a new meta account but I dont want to lose my purchases
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Is there a way to convert your quest login from FB to Meta? Obviously I could just make a new meta account but I dont want to lose my purchases Based on a few posts in the subreddit, you should be able to start an Oculus support chat and get the facebook account unlinked then use only the Oculus account on the device. This breaks the social aspect on the UI so games that use it for MP could be borked but otherwise you can get rid of FB right now. No idea when Meta is actually taking off with Quest but for now you can go back to just Oculus.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Is there a way to convert your quest login from FB to Meta? Obviously I could just make a new meta account but I dont want to lose my purchases As far as I know, there is still not a Meta site or Meta accounts. It's in 2022. If you really want to rush it: https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/qilkwy/you_can_unlink_your_facebook_account_now/
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https://twitter.com/oculus/status/1455228753047523333Hadlock posted:Extra curious to see what the pro model looks like ... Next year? Especially if it's not tied to Facebook account https://twitter.com/Basti564/status/1455333035667345415
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Oh loving hell yeah a charging base for the headset AND controllers? I’m all for that.
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forest spirit posted:I've noticed the same thing, and it only happened after I factory reset my quest 2 about a week ago (the day I bought resident evil 4). I heard from a few other people that something like it was happening to them, too. If it's widespread I hope that means it might get fixed sooner rather than later. It did sometimes feel in some games like something you might not even notice if you weren't looking for it, so maybe it affects a lot of people who just havent noticed yet? The last quest update had this; "Next time you use Link or Air Link with your headset, you may notice improved image quality and text clarity thanks to Link Sharpening." And I wonder if whatever they did there is just poo poo.
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Yeah, but like, curious what the specs look like, what new technology, if any, particularly in regards to optics Presumably whatever is in the developer edition for $2400 this year, will trickle down to the Quest 3 or 4 Renders are neat, but show me the numbers
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Oh loving hell yeah a charging base for the headset AND controllers? I’m all for that. someone said that it might be because battery life is just that bad that the second you're not actively using them you have to drop them in the dock and... yeah, not so exciting if that turns out to be true
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Hadlock posted:Yeah, but like, curious what the specs look like, what new technology, if any, particularly in regards to optics You asked what it looks like
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