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mcmagic posted:You're really never doing anything good out at 3:30 in the morning. In Vegas you could just be getting a 99 cent breakfast buffet.
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AndrewP posted:IIRC the guy he hit was illegally walking across a highway or something so that was probably a mitigating circumstance Was this ever proven? He very well could have been jaywalking but wasn't it just Stallworth's drunken word on that? He also claimed to have flashed his lights at the guy to warn him which seems odd.
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Elephanthead posted:In Vegas you could just be getting a 99 cent breakfast buffet. Last time I was in Vegas even the strip club gave me a free ride back to my hotel in the morning
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Amy Pole Her posted:Immediate advice he's gotten be given, based on my way limited knowledge, but he's still seeing prison time if he pleas NC. Are you sure of this? How does this work? They have this setup in every city with an NFL team? They have this setup in cities that players are likely to visit on their off days or during bye weeks? Who is going to run a car service in god knows how many cities across America and have it hardly get used.
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Tim Whatley posted:The fact Ruggs isn't already cut is gross https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1455601557148512256/photo/1 The statement makes it sound very much like they plan to get rid of him once he's arrested (he absolutely will be after he's out of the hospital, the question is just how much time he does)
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Tim Whatley posted:The fact Ruggs isn't already cut is gross https://twitter.com/tashanreed/status/1455606146497073152 That's why
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Are you sure of this? How does this work? They have this setup in every city with an NFL team? They have this setup in cities that players are likely to visit on their off days or during bye weeks? Who is going to run a car service in god knows how many cities across America and have it hardly get used. From what I understand of it, they got rid of their own and just literally use a special UBER service now.
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He's hosed. There are a few places in America where DUIs get pled down but that's largely a relic of entrenched good old boy culture and the former difficulty of proving impairment. He's hosed on the evidence. DUI evidence collection has been idiot-proofed to an insane degree.They probably have a blow if they contacted him at the scene. They absolutely have his blood. Challenging a blow is difficult enough, but good loving luck with a blood draw too. He's hosed on a goodwill plea. There's no hemming and hawing about evidence and there's a legit citizen victim with a family and a city full of have somes with zero sympathy for the rich kid with the fancy car.
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Niwrad posted:Was this ever proven? He very well could have been jaywalking but wasn't it just Stallworth's drunken word on that? He also claimed to have flashed his lights at the guy to warn him which seems odd. Yes, Stallworths case pretty clearly showed the old dude Jay walked and ran into the road hopping a barrier. That’s textbook.
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“I love the man, I hate the sin," quarterback Derek Carr said.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:He's hosed. There are a few places in America where DUIs get pled down but that's largely a relic of entrenched good old boy culture and the former difficulty of proving impairment. Challenging a blow isn’t difficult whatsoever depending on quite a few circumstances. For one, most precincts forget to update their software, and the intoxilizer (been 9 years since i handled a crim defense thing so forgive bad memory) has weird accuracy issues if you don’t update the software You’re dead on about blood though.
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Leonard Little played 12 years! Manslaughter conviction After leaving a birthday party in 1998, Little crashed into and killed Susan Gutweiler in St. Louis, Missouri who was on her way to pick up her son from a concert. When tested, his blood alcohol content was 0.19 percent, 0.11 points exceeding the legal limit of 0.08 in the state of Missouri. Little received four years probation and was ordered to undergo a thousand hours of community service.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Are you sure of this? How does this work? They have this setup in every city with an NFL team? They have this setup in cities that players are likely to visit on their off days or during bye weeks? Who is going to run a car service in god knows how many cities across America and have it hardly get used. are you the attorney for henry ruggs the third
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Kalli posted:From what I understand of it, they got rid of their own and just literally use a special UBER service now. Ah, well that makes more sense. But if I were a player, I'd wanna deal with UBER directly. So I can imagine why it doesn't get "used" very often from the NFLPA's perspective.
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Black Sunshine posted:Leonard Little played 12 years! Jesus Christ And he got a DUI in 2004. Wow
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:Are you sure of this? How does this work? They have this setup in every city with an NFL team? They have this setup in cities that players are likely to visit on their off days or during bye weeks? Who is going to run a car service in god knows how many cities across America and have it hardly get used. They sub contract out. Every one of these nice car services, even with the protection aspect, exists for people other than players. As for the accuracy… this was 2 years ago and the driver was driving for someone that y’all loving *hate* but was a higher $ player, going to a charity golf event held by my buddy’s grandpa. Player and driver both said it’s available via NFLPA so not sure if that means you’ve gotta be active roster to get it or?
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Professor Funk posted:I am (unfortunately) an attorney so that avatar is kind of exactly the joke Don't think Ruggs will benefit from that.
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Mr Nice is a walking florida crim law textbook so him weighing in would be good too
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A Corvette rear-ended a RAV4, completely destroying it and killing the driver Was Riggs loving drag racing or something, good lord
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Doesn't sound like the NFL will be able to sweep this one under the rug.
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I'm a pleb state worker in Vegas that takes a $70 Lyft to the Strip when I'm going to be drinking even though I live 20 mins away. There was a traffic safety event in Boulder City the other day to try and raise awareness about pedestrians and a truck almost killed a lady walking across the street while they were filming.
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wandler20 posted:Doesn't sound like the NFL will be able to sweep this one under the rug. That's what happens you use a carr like a weapon.
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Doesn't the NFL have a program where you just call a number and they'll send out a driver?
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Amy Pole Her posted:Challenging a blow isn’t difficult whatsoever depending on quite a few circumstances. My dude intoxoilizers are three gens behind the current hand held models that get automatically plug and play tested and recertified as accurate against a known sample nightly. The machines (excuse me, instruments) are smarter than most cops and will catch and correct procedural fuckups. There's a reason the pro move a few years ago became "refuse all tests, gently caress the consequences" and even that's been countered. Most counties over 10,000 have an on-call magistrate that will authorize a blood draw at the first sign of reindeer games.
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I'm sure the league and the individual teams have programs and they probably work but you just never hear about them
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:My dude intoxoilizers are three gens behind the current hand held models that get automatically plug and play tested and recertified as accurate against a known sample nightly. The machines (excuse me, instruments) are smarter than most cops and will catch and correct procedural fuckups. There's a reason the pro move a few years ago became "refuse all tests, gently caress the consequences" and even that's been countered. Most counties over 10,000 have an on-call magistrate that will authorize a blood draw at the first sign of reindeer games. Holy moly. How things have changed. And yeah tbf in Florida the pro move has always been to say no to every test. Im curious if thats changed in the past few years. Do you do crim def in NV? Amy Pole Her fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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As far a I know (I am not a lawyer anymore) it is still always better in florida to refuse to blow as first refusal results in the same license suspension that a dui would. This may also be the case for second refusal but I’d have to look things up and can’t be bothered to do so right now.
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Mr. Nice! posted:As far a I know (I am not a lawyer anymore) it is still always better in florida to refuse to blow as first refusal results in the same license suspension that a dui would. This may also be the case for second refusal but I’d have to look things up and can’t be bothered to do so right now. I forgot you made a move. Financial sector ?
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Amy Pole Her posted:Holy moly. How things have changed. One state over. The problem(?) with DUI defense is that the sheer number of them forced a technical solution to spotty evidence collection and it's designed to be simple and easy for the dumbest cop to quickly and easily collect solid samples on the scene. In many states now (not sure about Nevada) you don't even need to prove impairment, you can proceed on just the number. It's led to situations where the prosecution will ask to bar all audio and video of the scene where a defendant is lucid and sober looking as irrelevant. This is probably veering into derail territory, but I tend to have sympathy for people's first DUI because how the gently caress do you know what your limits are? The most enlightening thing I ever did was do was volunteer for a cop training session where the goal is to get test subjects right on the line. I was shocked at how drunk I felt at .08 but there's no way I would have known what the line was. Mr. Nice! posted:As far a I know (I am not a lawyer anymore) it is still always better in florida to refuse to blow as first refusal results in the same license suspension that a dui would. This may also be the case for second refusal but I’d have to look things up and can’t be bothered to do so right now. In my jurisdiction it's the same way. They'll laugh at you for accepting the automatic suspension, then speed dial the on-call magistrate who walks them through a five minute telephonic hearing to authorize a blood draw warrant. If the dude is insistent enough about a refusal it can take less time than just doing the blow. Chef Boyardeez Nuts fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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I dunno, a friend of mine was murdered by a drunk driver while on his bike. The guys first offense (he was 60?), upstanding citizen, pled no contest and gave the family (he had 2 young kids) literally all his money in the civil case. Judge gave him 9 years in jail. I know it depends a bit on situation but the days of DUI death only resulting in like 30 days of jail are largely a relic of the past.
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Amy Pole Her posted:I forgot you made a move. Financial sector ? I’m working on a PhD in finance.
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Lmao Dwayne loving Bowe
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What exactly are the Browns doing that is wrong? He's there and he's playing. His contract is very hard to trade.
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