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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









skasion posted:

The most important canonical fact in the Dune Encyclopedia is that Fremen men are trained to orgasm without releasing fluids and that you aren’t considered a “real man” until you can do this

It just emits a puff of dust, to the accompaniment of natural desert sounds so as not to attract a worm

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
'How do you call among you that that wheezing sound your dicks make when you jack off?' Paul asked remembering the time he walked in on Farok masturbating at Tuono basin. He illustrated with one hand.

A chuckle sounded through the troop.

'We call that one Honk'Oof" said Stilgar.

'I am Atreides,' Paul whispered, and then louder: 'It is not right that I give up entirely the name my father gave me. Could I be known among you as Paul-Honk'Oof?'

No Pants
Dec 10, 2000

skasion posted:

The most important canonical fact in the Dune Encyclopedia is that Fremen men are trained to orgasm without releasing fluids and that you aren’t considered a “real man” until you can do this

wouldn't the cum end up in his bladder, which he will pee out and drink later???

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


pee and poo processed in the thigh pads, cum processed in the calf pads

mossyfisk
Nov 8, 2010

FF0000
How much of the fremen ecological project do you think is dedicated to growing coffee - or do they just import enough for millions of people without anyone noticing?

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

I always liked that even the fremen weren't able to live without coffee. Relatable.

I guess it's just full blown speculation, but yeah large scale coffee growing on arrakis seems questionable. Given the size of the imperium and the amount of spice bribes the guild is getting, I would more readily buy coffee for a few million people falling off the back of a heighliner

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
i trade you some of the most valuable substance in the universe. in return you get me some coffee.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I had always thought their coffee was actually brewed with spice instead of coffee bean grounds. Giving a kind of cinnamon-y brew with similar perky effects and also the occasional prescient vision.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost
At a kerjillion solarii per microgram, I'm certain there is a healthy and sizeable underground spice market. Maybe not spelled out so much in Dunc, but in the book & Dune 1984 it seemed like the Spacing Guild looked the other way on just about anything as long as the spice flowed.


So yeah they could afford to get some sort of weird future space-cat-poo poo coffee to mix with their wormpoop hash and really just go nuts

My PIN is 4826
Aug 30, 2003

I did a quick ctrl-f through a dune.txt that I found a while back, and it's mostly "spice coffee", which is ambiguous. Except one time when Jessica's coffee is "spiced coffee", so I guess it's just the good ol' black stuff with a sprinkling of :catdrugs:

mossyfisk
Nov 8, 2010

FF0000
It's not the cost that's an issue, the fremen are absolutely minted. It's shipping in coffee for ten million plus fremen on a planet with a supposed population of 500,000 or w/e - although I just looked it up and apparently there are ~5 million non-fremen people on Arrakis. So not that extreme.

Also I hate that Arrakeen is the name of a city. Welcome to the city of French, France - we do lot of trade with Spanish in Spain.

oxford_town
Aug 6, 2009

mossyfisk posted:

Also I hate that Arrakeen is the name of a city. Welcome to the city of French, France - we do lot of trade with Spanish in Spain.

Think of it more like Tunis or Algiers.

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire

mossyfisk posted:

It's not the cost that's an issue, the fremen are absolutely minted. It's shipping in coffee for ten million plus fremen on a planet with a supposed population of 500,000 or w/e - although I just looked it up and apparently there are ~5 million non-fremen people on Arrakis. So not that extreme.

Also I hate that Arrakeen is the name of a city. Welcome to the city of French, France - we do lot of trade with Spanish in Spain.

I always like that the Harkonnens ever even bothered with the shithole of Arrakeen and just hung out in Carthag, but that's basically never in any adaptation so far.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
It’s more like, “welcome to Earthia, capital of Earth”. Not totally unbelievable I guess.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

there was also the roman empire

mossyfisk
Nov 8, 2010

FF0000
The city wasn't called "Roman" or "Romanus" though. It's being an adjective which makes it so weird.

Bubblyblubber
Nov 17, 2014

mossyfisk posted:

It's not the cost that's an issue, the fremen are absolutely minted. It's shipping in coffee for ten million plus fremen on a planet with a supposed population of 500,000 or w/e - although I just looked it up and apparently there are ~5 million non-fremen people on Arrakis. So not that extreme.

Also I hate that Arrakeen is the name of a city. Welcome to the city of French, France - we do lot of trade with Spanish in Spain.

By the time of the books, the fremen are well on their way with the ecological transformation of Arrakis. I can't remember if the appendices list some info on it, but Kynes is the second generation of planetologist on it, so we can assume a good five decades or more of work.

They have palmaries and other plantation stuff on the southern hemisphere, and bribe the guild to go all "Ah no, impossible to put satellites around the most important planet in the empire, too much... sand...... static??" so no one really knows about it.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

mossyfisk posted:

The city wasn't called "Roman" or "Romanus" though. It's being an adjective which makes it so weird.

Still not that weird imo. Paris was “Lutetia Parisiorum” to the Romans, “Lutetia of the Parisii”, then became “Parision” then just Paris. Very common pattern all across Gaul actually because of how it was organized into cities for administrative purposes post-Roman conquest. Trier was formerly “Augusta of the Treverii”, Angers was “city of the Andecavi” etc. We can similarly hypothesize that Arrakeen is just the slightly degenerate common name of (City/port of the) Arrakeen (people).

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
yeah, what he said

Prolonged Panorama
Dec 21, 2007
Holy hookrat Sally smoking crack in the alley!



skasion posted:

Still not that weird imo. Paris was “Lutetia Parisiorum” to the Romans, “Lutetia of the Parisii”, then became “Parision” then just Paris. Very common pattern all across Gaul actually because of how it was organized into cities for administrative purposes post-Roman conquest. Trier was formerly “Augusta of the Treverii”, Angers was “city of the Andecavi” etc. We can similarly hypothesize that Arrakeen is just the slightly degenerate common name of (City/port of the) Arrakeen (people).

That owns, awesome post.

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

jeeves posted:

I always like that the Harkonnens ever even bothered with the shithole of Arrakeen and just hung out in Carthag, but that's basically never in any adaptation so far.

Dune 1992, Cryo Entertainment :colbert:

Though they flipped the two, and also put Carthag down near the equator, for some reason

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



No Pants posted:

A king's line fizzling out isn't incompatible with him having a lot of descendants!
I guess it's more in Scott Bricks reading, but it definitely sounds that way to me.

skasion posted:

The most important canonical fact in the Dune Encyclopedia is that Fremen men are trained to orgasm without releasing fluids and that you aren’t considered a “real man” until you can do this
What, tantric sex?

kalel
Jun 19, 2012

kalel posted:

I'm thinking about going to see it again, tonight, this time in imax

I did this except I hosed up and got the 4d smellovision tickets instead, rip

most fun theatre experience of my life. the ornithopter scenes, with the seats rocking and swaying and air blowing around me, were mind blowing. after the sand crawler rescue scene I wanted to jump out of my seat and hoot and holler at the top of my lungs. probably not a great viewing experience for first timers to dune but it was a blast

God Hole
Mar 2, 2016

skasion posted:

The most important canonical fact in the Dune Encyclopedia is that Fremen men are trained to orgasm without releasing fluids and that you aren’t considered a “real man” until you can do this

a fantastic way for a population to flourish in a hostile environment is if all the men are making themselves infertile from repeated retrograde ejaculation

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Buller posted:

Anyone else thinking about dune??

Watched it again, with the help of a happy pill or two.

Me sitting in the theater

Really loving these dunes!!!

Also those loving orthinopters loving chef's kiss

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



:aaaaa: when i realized that the beat in this song that starts at 30s is actually ornithopter wings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc8RTc6vKPE

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 13 days!
Who were the guys they used for that Sardakur blood ritual? Prisoners? Volunteers?

Seems like the rain would really dilute the hell out of the blood though.

Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:

Panfilo posted:

Seems like the rain would really dilute the hell out of the blood though.

It was a cost saving measure so they had more to go around. These ceremonies are always on rainy days.

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006

Seems like they are just punished sardaukar. Concise way of showing how brutal the planet is

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

It's a prison planet. Was the former capital but the environment went to hell so they just turned it into a hell-prison. Because it's a hell world they also think it's a great army training world too.

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
I like that in Dune the two ways to get a really good army are 1) Raise them on a hell planet that sucks and recruit the survivors (Sardarkaur and Fremen) or 2) treat people mostly fairly and then train and equip them well

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Shoehead posted:

2) treat people mostly fairly and then train and equip them well

This one sucks don’t do it lol

.sent from my no globe on Gammu

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

Baronjutter posted:

It's a prison planet. Was the former capital but the environment went to hell so they just turned it into a hell-prison. Because it's a hell world they also think it's a great army training world too.

Looked like scifi Scotland to me.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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God Hole posted:

a fantastic way for a population to flourish in a hostile environment is if all the men are making themselves infertile from repeated retrograde ejaculation
They don't do it when they want to make the baby. Then it's :cumpolice: time.

Gabriel Grub
Dec 18, 2004

BeanpolePeckerwood posted:

:aaaaa: when i realized that the beat in this song that starts at 30s is actually ornithopter wings


It's pretty clearly a thumper for calling a sandworm.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Gabriel Grub posted:

It's pretty clearly a thumper for calling a sandworm.

Listen to ir speed up thooo

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

skasion posted:

The most important canonical fact in the Dune Encyclopedia is that Fremen men are trained to orgasm without releasing fluids and that you aren’t considered a “real man” until you can do this

A true naib only faps into the hidden cache of a sietch. We have thousands of such caches, only a few of us know them all. And one day we will use it to change the face of ur mom

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost
Dunc thoughts-


Yueh could've just gone to Jessica and 'betrayed' himself. Leto is honorable; they could've set a trap for the Harkonenns. The whole setup is so Yueh can murder the Baron to get revenge for his wife Did he think he needed permission to do that? Or did he think Leto would gently caress it up?


yes, Yueh was specifically looking for release for Wanna, and I suppose if they somehow entrapped the Baron then maybe that wouldn't have happened. However it seems like Yueh is all but confirmed that she's dead anyway, and betraying himself to Jessica would both enable his plan and allow Imperial conditioning to remain intact

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost
How does woods porn work on a desert planet

Do spice blows intermittently rain Hustler

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kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

Vampire Panties posted:

How does woods porn work on a desert planet

Do spice blows intermittently rain Hustler

Not until Muad'dib made it rain Hustler at the end. Where there was hate, Muad'Dib brough love. His love.



love from the sky


and how can this be???

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