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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Raskolnikov38 posted:

is there a definition of statues i'm not aware of or capable of finding or does NK have a thriving trade in marble works

they work in bronze mostly
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35569277

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Founded in 1959, it caters for North Korea's considerable domestic propaganda needs. The huge statues, murals and banners you see being dutifully applauded at military processions - as well as the poster images that surround North Korean daily life - are all made by its 4,000 staff.

"It's in the heart of Pyongyang, Mansudae is the name of the district," says Pier Luigi Cecioni, an Italian who is the sole representative of the art factory to the outside world. "Actually, it's more of a campus than a factory, more of a studio, the biggest in the world."

They've just produced a giant embroidery for the Benetton fashion family and fitted out a museum in Cambodia, but it's in Africa that Mansudae Overseas Projects (MOP) has found the keenest appetite for its work.

The export of this bold, direct, firmly authoritarian style began in the early 1980s as a diplomatic gift to socialist or non-aligned countries from their North Korean brothers. More recently it's become a valuable source of hard currency, with artists and craftsmen from MOP working in Angola, Benin, Chad, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia and Togo. Local media in Zimbabwe report there are two giant Robert Mugabes in storage waiting to commemorate his death. And most famously, in Senegal the giant African Renaissance Monument was cast on site by Mansudae craftsmen and dedicated in 2010. It's estimated that the studio has earned tens of millions of dollars in this way.

North Korean art seems to appeal to African leaders for two reasons. First, because the price is right. Senegal paid for its 49m-high (161ft) statue by giving some land to the North Koreans - who immediately sold it for cash.

The second reason is the style. "The Russians and Chinese don't make that kind of stuff any more," says art critic William Feaver. "The appeal is in the statement of the obvious - and of course size is everything." He sees enthusiasm for the style as part of a nation-building process. "You could think of Mount Rushmore as the American version, performing a similar celebration of founding fathers for a relatively new nation keen to assert itself in the world."

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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
i think we should stop loving with north korea and let the natural democratizing forces of industrial capitalism take root in the hermit kingdom. just my $0.02. no need to continue punishing them for leaving the capitalist world system a billion years ago.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Red and Black posted:

They’re really good at making statues and monuments. They’ve been commissioned to do them in foreign countries before. Can’t be assed to look up which countries though

seems like such a weird thing for a country to specialize in

"virgin mary statues, 20 bucks!"

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Constant hurt feelings about maps is the funniest thing that states do.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
bold, direct, firmly authoritarian style

lmao

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

countering pooh xi with eeyore biden

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

John Charity Spring posted:

bold, direct, firmly authoritarian style

lmao

love the BBC

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Genuine question, what was with that China arresting Marxist students for wanting Marxism? I heard they got set up by the CIA, ties had to be what 5/6 yesrs ago but something made me remember that today and idk maybe I've just become more favorable to China since than but seeing all recent made up bullshit did make me wonder what the deal was with that

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1455220760985866240

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1454836802859069447

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Please understandu, Adani has to buy coal from australia to sell it to Indian power plants at a markup.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Modiji, thank you 🙏

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/chenweihua/status/1455587997877932032

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
"Haha, imagine how much worse we would be under the UPA and the Khangress" - Clueless bloke pawning the family plate off to a cash for gold trader. Thank god the Indian middle class' utter lack of political organizing won't deepen the current predicament any further.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

CYBEReris posted:

countering pooh xi with eeyore biden

I'm another one who didn't notice the yellow thing.
I thought it went back to a photo of him walking with Obama that looked like Pooh and Tigger.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Virgin world leaders sleep in the physical conference; chad world leaders deliver virtual speech from home

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

that statue always looked incredibly loving gauche, not for any fault with the craftsmanship save for how it looks in the middle of senegal where that money maybe should have gone to something else

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

stephenthinkpad posted:

Virgin world leaders sleep in the physical conference; chad world leaders deliver virtual speech from home

exqueeze me sir. Modiji sold off our national airlines for pennies on the dollar so he could buy bitchin' new planes. You expect him to stay home and not amble over and hug other leaders in front of the camera?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Come on dude, did Modi really hugged anybo... holy poo poo!



Guy looked like he was screaming delta variant inside.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

stephenthinkpad posted:

Come on dude, did Modi really hugged anybo... holy poo poo!

This patented technique made India a massive international player overnight. Now everyone takes us seriously. BTW please read this whatsapp forward from an epoch times link on how china is gonna collapse any day now. I need that 2 rupee per link click.

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

LionYeti posted:

Is it strange that I look at China and am jealous of a government that does things?

What you need to be jealous of is not the CCP but the Chinese people and China itself

not in some stupid liberal sense, but because ~despite~ not being a liberal democracy, the CCP knows that their authority does not stem from the Mandate of Jefferson or even brute force but from having at least a general sense of approval from the Chinese people overall, who are in small and large groups willing and able to actually gently caress poo poo up if the government doesn't work for them. the real difference between America now and the America of the New Deal Era is not simply that american capital has won a greater share of power, but that structurally, capital just really doesnt need the consent of the american people at all anymore

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

the best part is when american media acts like the chinese government giving people things that they like is proof that their grip is weakening since a truly legitimate government would just constantly tell everyone to gently caress off

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,
also even intraparty politics, like Xi consulting with party leaders both at the national and provincial level to develop the best way to roll out property taxes

i mean can you imagine something like that happening here? lol

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Some Guy TT posted:

the best part is when american media acts like the chinese government giving people things that they like is proof that their grip is weakening since a truly legitimate government would just constantly tell everyone to gently caress off

lmao shades of Indian media being really mad at the INC for winning the 2009 elections because they created a massive public works project.
"that doesn't count, you only uplifted a quarter billion people just to win elections."

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Some Guy TT posted:

the best part is when american media acts like the chinese government giving people things that they like is proof that their grip is weakening since a truly legitimate government would just constantly tell everyone to gently caress off

See also the perfidious Hugo Chavez bribing the Venezuelan people with "increased food security" (RIP)

joe football
Dec 22, 2012

Have a lot of confidence in 70 something politicians laying out their plans to achieve something 50 years from now

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

so basically they did what america has always done but because they’re China it’s scary and bad now.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Michael P Senger
@MichaelPSenger

Attorney, author of China’s Global Lockdown Propaganda Campaign, The Masked Ball of Cowardice, and Snake Oil: How Xi Jinping Shut Down the World

SNAKE OIL: HOW XI JINPING SHUT DOWN THE WORLD

Through propaganda and fraud, the CCP under Xi Jinping transformed the snake oil of lockdowns into “science,” the greatest crime of the 21st century to date.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
I would like to remind you that if modi has said something he has put a lot of thought into it. Its not like he deleted 80% of the cash in the economy overnight or anything.

PS: The indian left is the reason why we went from having a nuclear powered electrical infrastructure plan with renewables filling in the gap to the current state where modi's financial backers are shipping in coal from australia to sell at a markup to State owned power utilities.

Serf
May 5, 2011


https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/1455729206399315969

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

you know it's dire when dudes like this are on board

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Nah, things aren't that bad.

Yet.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

lmfao

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

Liberalism has truly rotted people's brains lmao
https://twitter.com/j_beeezy/status/1455729835150561287?s=20

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
Authoritarianism is when government actually achieves things

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





'authoritarian/democratic' is a dogshit excuse for a binary when democratic countries such as, idk, the US, are authoritarian by nature

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Office Pig posted:

that statue always looked incredibly loving gauche, not for any fault with the craftsmanship save for how it looks in the middle of senegal where that money maybe should have gone to something else

i read that in the voice of the people in that hillary song by that blob woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H51HuNX41Fg

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
how dare you

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

John Charity Spring posted:

bold, direct, firmly authoritarian style

lmao

love a bold, direct and authoritarian bbc

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy



so much winning

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