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Flopsy posted:Because I'm trying to keep up with New Jersey results. There are results being posted on places like nytimes.com if you want raw results without commentary.
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If my cousin's wife is the primary demographic for Youngkin's appeal(upper middle class, white, 2 kids) then he nailed it. Democrats have to start fulfilling promises. It's just basic human interaction 101, small promises fulfilled work better than promising big things and never doing them.
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Willa Rogers posted:There are results being posted on places like nytimes.com if you want raw results without commentary. All the sites I've been trying are pay blocked.
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Nov 3, 2021 04:22
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Peter Daou Zen posted:If my cousin's wife is the primary demographic for Youngkin's appeal(upper middle class, white, 2 kids) then he nailed it. Democrats have to start fulfilling promises. It's just basic human interaction 101, small promises fulfilled work better than promising big things and never doing them. There's an over estimation of what moderates would allow I believe. They're way more republican than the majority of the party and that rat fucks everything.
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Dave Wasserman currently saying VA has a tied house? https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1455734418350514177?s=20 So that's uh, something?
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Flopsy posted:All the sites I've been trying are pay blocked. Virginia New Jersey
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TulliusCicero posted:Dave Wasserman currently saying VA has a tied house? Oh wow. They seemed like they were going to get to 51 for sure. There's NO provisions for control in the event of a tie? I assume the Speaker breaks the tie, but if you can't elect a Speaker because there is a tie then, like, what the hell do you do?
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Flopsy posted:Good news is I haven't vomited tonight so...there's that. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/11/02/us/elections/results-new-jersey.html If its paywalled there are, uh, chrome plug ins for that. Its currently 17k votes apart with 72% reporting, but every time more votes roll in the gap narrows. I might make  off of this, which is neat
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Sanguinia posted:Oh wow. They seemed like they were going to get to 51 for sure. There's NO provisions for control in the event of a tie? I assume the Speaker breaks the tie, but if you can't elect a Speaker because there is a tie then, like, what the hell do you do? ...Power sharing agreement?
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Flopsy posted:There's an over estimation of what moderates would allow I believe. They're way more republican than the majority of the party and that rat fucks everything. America is so incredibly partisan right now, "moderates" have no place in the current system. We are way way past decorum. Democrats absolutely have to get rid of anchors like Sinema, Manchin, etc etc or this race in Virginia will be repeated. My state, Michigan, votes for Governor next year. If Whitmer wants to win, she cannot coast on "Remember when Trump refused to call me by my name." Trying to work with Republicans is a fools errand .
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Sanguinia posted:Oh wow. They seemed like they were going to get to 51 for sure. There's NO provisions for control in the event of a tie? I assume the Speaker breaks the tie, but if you can't elect a Speaker because there is a tie then, like, what the hell do you do? Probably something extremely stupid like cut a deck and high card wins, and mysteriously the democrat will pull a 2
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Sanguinia posted:Oh wow. They seemed like they were going to get to 51 for sure. There's NO provisions for control in the event of a tie? I assume the Speaker breaks the tie, but if you can't elect a Speaker because there is a tie then, like, what the hell do you do? It's probably either going to be a coin flip or a civil war.
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Peter Daou Zen posted:America is so incredibly partisan right now, "moderates" have no place in the current system. We are way way past decorum. Democrats absolutely have to get rid of anchors like Sinema, Manchin, etc etc or this race in Virginia will be repeated. The problem is Whitmer got utterly loving clipped by our fuckwad GOP State Supreme Court last year, and COVID numbers shooting through the roof right now because the state government literally can't do poo poo, despite the lockdown being a massive success in making Michigan initially have some of the lowest numbers in the country. Our loving Chud GOP Legislature rather kill their own constituents so they can blame Whitmer though. I really wish the West coast of Michigan was a seperate state. Take Macomb county while you are at it: we don't want it TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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Neither state has been called for the GOP yet so there's still hope, for all those who are stressed about it.
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Willa Rogers posted:Neither state has been called for the GOP yet so there's still hope, for all those who are stressed about it. Lmao if T-Mac ekes out the weakest victory ever
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The progressive mayor won in Boston  she'll probably disappoint me someday but I'll take this.
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TulliusCicero posted:Lmao if T-Mac ekes out the weakest victory ever ....what?
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Willa Rogers posted:Neither state has been called for the GOP yet so there's still hope, for all those who are stressed about it. Isnt kinda deeply embarrassing that Murphy didn't just walk away with NJ already though? I recall hearing that after an early republican lead this would be a slam dunk by late night
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Peter Daou Zen posted:If my cousin's wife is the primary demographic for Youngkin's appeal(upper middle class, white, 2 kids) then he nailed it. Democrats have to start fulfilling promises. It's just basic human interaction 101, small promises fulfilled work better than promising big things and never doing them. if your cousin's wife voted for Youngkin, then she can go get hosed (by a transvaginal ultrasound, which, she apparently voted for!) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nix Panicus posted:Isnt kinda deeply embarrassing that Murphy didn't just walk away with NJ already though? I recall hearing that after an early republican lead this would be a slam dunk by late night https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1455740106694922244 Not a slam dunk but not a loss. apparently.
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Gumball Gumption posted:The progressive mayor won in Boston My wife vaguely recalls her from her time at a Boston non-profit. She says she reminded her a lot of Ayanna Pressley, which is not a ringing endorsement. Progressive, sure, but in a very manufactured and focus tested way
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Flopsy posted:....what? Youngkin didn't win in a blowout or even a margin large enough to discount late votes. There remains a small chance McAuliffe comes back and wins through provisional and late arriving mail in ballots.
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Flopsy posted:....what? Don't buy it. Looking at the votes yet to be counted and the margins, I don't see how its possible, which is why Better Dave called it hours ago. But its going to be very close. People who were talking about a 5% R win were pulling the trigger way early. Its going to be 2% max I think, and more likely less.
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Flopsy posted:....what? I mean it still hasn't been called and apparently there's some missing mail in ballots/ data, anything is possible, but that lead seems rough to get over Lmao if Dave Wasserman was wrong though: would make my night for the polling boys to be wrongo again
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Sanguinia posted:Don't buy it. Looking at the votes yet to be counted and the margins, I don't see how its possible, which is why Better Dave called it hours ago. But its going to be very close. People who were talking about a 5% R win were pulling the trigger way early. Its going to be 2% max I think, and more likely less. I guess this explains Wasserman thinking it's going to be a split House of Delegates?
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Nix Panicus posted:My wife vaguely recalls her from her time at a Boston non-profit. She says she reminded her a lot of Ayanna Pressley, which is not a ringing endorsement. Progressive, sure, but in a very manufactured and focus tested way Oh absolutely. Wu is still a careerist. My expectation is some good stuff to make us a more modern city, hopefully better attempts to desegregate Boston, half assed police poo poo that will roll back at some point. We have a strong mayor so if she stays in we'll either become a progressive beacon or roadkill on someone's career path.
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TulliusCicero posted:The problem is Whitmer got utterly loving clipped by our fuckwad GOP State Supreme Court last year, and COVID numbers shooting through the roof right now because the state government literally can't do poo poo, despite the lockdown being a massive success in making Michigan initially have some of the lowest numbers in the country. Michigan is wild. It's conservative everywhere but the big cities. The West of Michigan, and the very north. . .Just crazy. Like cities are little fiefdoms with their own politics. Segregation. With how many "pure moron" signs about Whitmer I see in the suburbs, I don't know how good of a chance she has if she's not taking notes about Virginia tonight. SourKraut posted:if your cousin's wife voted for Youngkin, then she can go get hosed (by a transvaginal ultrasound, which, she apparently voted for!) People can vote for whomever they want, thank you!
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Sanguinia posted:Don't buy it. Looking at the votes yet to be counted and the margins, I don't see how its possible, which is why Better Dave called it hours ago. But its going to be very close. People who were talking about a 5% R win were pulling the trigger way early. Its going to be 2% max I think, and more likely less. Imagine the "Stop the Steal!" conspiracies if McAuliffe won, though 
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Gumball Gumption posted:Oh absolutely. Wu is still a careerist. My expectation is some good stuff to make us a more modern city, hopefully better attempts to desegregate Boston, half assed police poo poo that will roll back at some point. We have a strong mayor so if she stays in we'll either become a progressive beacon or roadkill on someone's career path. Build more transit. Build more light rail capacity out to the commuter cities (where I live) and kick Charlie Baker in the dick repeatedly until he agrees to put more money into regional transit systems so the goddamn buses run after 7pm on weekdays. This is all I ask. I pledge my eternal allegiance to whoever gets me more buses and slightly more frequent trains.
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Nix Panicus posted:Isnt kinda deeply embarrassing that Murphy didn't just walk away with NJ already though? I recall hearing that after an early republican lead this would be a slam dunk by late night I'm trying to look on the bright side to accommodate the electorally anxious among us.  Contrary to forum sentiment I don't have a vested interest in the GOP winning.
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Nix Panicus posted:Isnt kinda deeply embarrassing that Murphy didn't just walk away with NJ already though? I recall hearing that after an early republican lead this would be a slam dunk by late night Poll average said that Murphy would win by 8, and the tweet box is currently saying he's on track to win by 5-6. His peak a month ago was 11, granted, but underperforming by 2-3 isn't that big an embarrassment, especially since NJ hasn't re-elected an incumbent Dem since the 70s. Still, it is certainly proof that dissatisfied swayable sent a message to the Democrats at large today, which is that they're dissatisfied. The Nazi Squad also sent a message that the hope they'll not show up when their Fuhrer isn't on the ballot may not be holding as well as hoped.
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Van Jones speaking truth about the downside of political echo chambers, because it insulates political folken against views beyond TRUMP BAD.SourKraut posted:if your cousin's wife voted for Youngkin, then she can go get hosed (by a transvaginal ultrasound, which, she apparently voted for!) 
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Peter Daou Zen posted:Michigan is wild. It's conservative everywhere but the big cities. The West of Michigan, and the very north. . .Just crazy. Like cities are little fiefdoms with their own politics. Segregation. Western Michigan is DeVos bought and payed for Psycho Prosperity Gospel Hell, but a lot of Northern Michigan and the UP is gettable if anyone in our party remotely gave a gently caress about them and their crippling poverty up there. Like just going to visit them on the campaign trail would send a nice message, rather than visiting "Redder than Trump's rear end" Macomb for the 50th loving time to no avail. Like a lot of the Northerners just don't know about issues, need their guns up there to actually hunt and survive in the wilderness, and their only exposure is the rich conservative fucks who own lake Cabins/ mansions who spread COVID to them like crazy during the summers. My heart goes out to the forgotten Yoopers 
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Willa Rogers posted:I'm trying to look on the bright side to accommodate the electorally anxious among us. I invested a few bucks on predict-it so now I'm fully engaged. I've seen articles that say mail in voting hasnt been fully counted in NJ, and nobody seems to know where or what proportion of mail ins are left outstanding so Murphy could actually be up thousands of mail in ballots right now. Is that cope or does that check with whatever you're reading beyond NYT?
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Nix Panicus posted:I invested a few bucks on predict-it so now I'm fully engaged. I have no idea wtf anymore, bc I'm just watching bullshit cable-news folks spin poo poo. eta: It sure is cool watching people making millions a year puzzling over why voters are angry. Willa Rogers fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Nov 3, 2021 |
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Sanguinia posted:Poll average said that Murphy would win by 8, and the tweet box is currently saying he's on track to win by 5-6. His peak a month ago was 11, granted, but underperforming by 2-3 isn't that big an embarrassment, especially since NJ hasn't re-elected an incumbent Dem since the 70s. Eh I think Dem turnout dropped due to loving stasis on the bills, the undecideds saw Dems weren't doing poo poo and split for the GOP, and the GOP got some better turnout than expected by going after the CRT boogieman. I hate saying this, but the Karen Mom vote is going to be an issue in the suburbs going foward if you get another Gaffe machine like T-Mac, and possibly in general. The GOP has gone back to the old reactionary standard "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" which is cat nip for domineering parents.
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Nix Panicus posted:I invested a few bucks on predict-it so now I'm fully engaged. NJ is apparently incredibly slow to count and it does sound like the mail-ins are either not completely part of the count or may be completely uncounted. https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1455740106694922244 Appropriate for the home of the Sopranos, I guess.
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