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OnlyBans
Sep 21, 2021

by sebmojo

I just want to let you know how much I appreciate people like your owner. There is a chinzy little trophy store in Broadripple Indianapolis where you can get custom crystal statues made for your little league team or whatever. When I was living in New York dealing with C-suite fucks who want to feel validated and I was visiting a friend of mine to get some clarity I saw that store.

I've had people who come from money, who are worth orders of magnitude more than I will ever be, dirty cry because I gave them a trophy absolutely intended to be bought by some lovely suburban parent.

Everyone wants recognition and people who buy into the whole "American self-made" narrative (even, especially if they are second gen) LOVE that poo poo.

Except when they don't. I've had some near violent misses with that approach. But nothing lost, nothing gained.

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Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:

Again, fully agree. However, the issue with that is most nonprofits can’t just pick up and take their business elsewhere. There are very limited grantmakers, many of whom are very focused in their area, so it’s a real sellers market. If you happen to be a regular grantee for one of these organizations you’ve hit the jackpot, but there aren’t a glut of organizations willing to write big checks over and over.

That's exactly my point. We've got no recourse but to deal with it and try and avoid the worst of them. It's hosed.

EarthboundMermaid
Mar 6, 2012

Go then, there are other worlds than these.

aas Bandit posted:



I had great fun in writing emails and including both people on them and providing quotes from older emails and basically just playing, "Let's you and him fight." Sometimes people wised up and poo poo actually got accomplished at that point without the nonsense. Other times, the accusations and ducking and dodging were seriously impressive as people got called on their poo poo, and things exploded in spectacular fashion. Overall, I'm not sure if it was necessarily productive, but I sure enjoyed it before moving on to other prospects.

:munch:

I did something similar after being hosed around for almost a year. Boss and HR Lady kept blaming the other for my position review not being finalised. Finally got them both in a room together and they tried to blame it on the CEO.

Yeah…neither of them could move fast enough when I told them I was just gonna go check with him, brb! Issue sorted next day. :boom:

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Team leads shouldn't be colliding with HR, don't they know they're not friends? They stalled you for a year, mission accomplished?

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

I wish I didn't have to report to the restaurant manager for everything, not because he's a bad guy, but he's overworked to death without me trying to figure out recipe paperwork and ordering materials. I often have to ask for what I need several times. Recently he was mad because he thought I hadn't gotten recipe paperwork done that I completed like two weeks ago. Not sure why he didn't mention it sooner... hopefully we can improve communication, but it'll probably be an ongoing issue.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Plebian Parasite posted:

My problem comes with the years, I was born in 1988 so now I'm the proud owner of a shirt with a giant 88 on the back and a hat to match. He, and most of the people there are completely oblivious to what has happened here (at least I would hope he is oblivious) but now I gotta find the most tactful way to tell him I'm not wearing the neo nazi shirt he had made for me.

It's more problematic than your particular shirt.

If you have any reasonable HR at all you should let them know and all of that poo poo will disappear very quickly. It's basically a wearable protected class discrimination roadmap.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Alkydere posted:

So I go through managers on a regular basis. Nothing exactly surprising, it's just that Amazon is expanding and my facility is one of the better FCs so corporate really likes to promote from the FC in hopes they'll bring whatever dark magic keeps a medium-sized building that's 5 years old (literally ancient in Amazon terms) in the top ten network wide to wherever they move to. If you get on the management train you're guaranteed to be moving up here. In the 4 years I've worked here I've had like...15 managers and only 1 has gotten fired vs. being promoted.

Why would the locations success be based on the manager when the manager is getting promoted so quickly they don't actually have any impact? Sounds like it's the low level workers there (the ones not being promoted) who are actually doing the work, but will never get noticed because they aren't management.


Dammit, I've been reading too much r/antiwork.



quote:

Last year I spent the better part of a month developing a climate adaptation project for some government fund that gave us a month's notice to submit a 'new, shovel-ready project with a budget of more than $100,000' for some economic stimulus thing. Turns out they funded about 1% of applicants. Literally hundreds of people spent weeks frantically trying to pull poo poo together because they'd been encouraged to and it was all for nothing. Literally, hundreds of thousands of dollars of people hours wasted, plus the time someone had to trawl through all those applications. The majority of that effort could have been avoided if they asked for 1 pager expression of interest. I'm sure most of those applications got a 20-second glace before being discarded. We are desperate for funding and have no choice but to jump through these inane hoops for no good reason. It's disrespectful.

Is this in Australia? Because we're going through corruption investigations with an ex-state leader who has revealed in secret phone hacks that the entirety of conservative state and federal government funds is being sent based on corruption and/or political seats of the conservative party only and the direct mates of representatives. Who then reimburse 1% of the funding they got, back to the conservative political party.

So the 1% that are being funded is to have the other 99% act as cover for the corruption.


Though I suppose now every government is like that. :(

Comstar fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Oct 30, 2021

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Comstar posted:

Why would the locations success be based on the manager when the manager is getting promoted so quickly they don't actually have any impact? Sounds like it's the low level workers there (the ones not being promoted) who are actually doing the work, but will never get noticed because they aren't management.


Dammit, I've been reading too much r/antiwork.

Is this in Australia? Because we're going through corruption investigations with an ex-state leader who has revealed in secret phone hacks that the entirety of conservative state and federal government funds is being sent based on corruption and/or political seats of the conservative party only and the direct mates of representatives. Who then reimburse 1% of the funding they got, back to the conservative political party.

So the 1% that are being funded is to have the other 99% act as cover for the corruption.


Though I suppose now every government is like that. :(

Nah not Australia but I'm sure a bunch of pollie's pet protects just happened to be funded. And I'm sure the majority of funded projects were located in swing areas.

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

As someone who's been ghosted by potential employers when I applied & interviewed, these assholes can get hosed :lol:

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Comstar posted:

Why would the locations success be based on the manager when the manager is getting promoted so quickly they don't actually have any impact? Sounds like it's the low level workers there (the ones not being promoted) who are actually doing the work, but will never get noticed because they aren't management.

Dammit, I've been reading too much r/antiwork.

Correct! The same workers who barely get noticed (except by managers who know who to ask/talk to) who slowly get more and more disillusioned. Honestly Amazon's apparently struck some sort of pot of work-ethic gold in central Texas and they keep tossing more new buildings here because something about the region means we don't entirely hate working there? I suspect its because everyone else treats us like poo poo and doesn't pay as well as Amazon :v:

In all seriousness there is some good in teaching management "If you don't micromanage your workers they don't hate you. Just let them get about their jobs."

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Just received an E-mail with subject: pegging to be done

I'm flattered, but you know, business and pleasure and all that.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Were you pegged to be pegger or peggee?

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Outrail posted:

Were you pegged to be pegger or peggee?

I guess that pegs the question.

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


Dunno, but it invovlves an underground thrust from a nearby power pole into the property.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




Outrail posted:

Were you pegged to be pegger or peggee?

Spatule
Mar 18, 2003
Company laptop that is also "for personal use" can't acces any major webmail service, video streaming service, remote desktop, Stadia or GFN, nothing.

On the flip side, you can install *any* browser extension, even shady ones. And my favourite russian hardcore porn torrent sites work fine. So it is staying off after working hours, but I need to get myself a Chromebook or whatever for actual personal use. Like checking my mail during lunch break.

I loving hate IT. Like hate hate. If I had to choose between taxing billionaires + getting rid of cancer or cleansing the world of spergin power tripping nerds, I'd choose the latter.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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update: we'll be migrating our task tracking from Excel worksheets to Teams Planner.

I am the very stupid boss who demands dumb poo poo your work does.

Hopefully this isn't a complete wast of time

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Task tracking in Excel, how quaint.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

McGavin posted:

Task tracking in Excel, how quaint.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
We have a training session soon about how we should be using more visual team communication technologies. I think they mean teams wikis.

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Spatule posted:

Company laptop that is also "for personal use" can't acces any major webmail service, video streaming service, remote desktop, Stadia or GFN, nothing.

On the flip side, you can install *any* browser extension, even shady ones. And my favourite russian hardcore porn torrent sites work fine. So it is staying off after working hours, but I need to get myself a Chromebook or whatever for actual personal use. Like checking my mail during lunch break.

I loving hate IT. Like hate hate. If I had to choose between taxing billionaires + getting rid of cancer or cleansing the world of spergin power tripping nerds, I'd choose the latter.

IT nerd here, don't worry, we hate all of our end users as much as you hate us.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Kuros posted:

IT nerd here, don't worry, we hate all of our end users as much as you hate us.

Can confirm. The tiers are usually:

- IT workers acting like end users
- IT workers on other teams
- End users

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Cthulu Carl posted:

Can confirm. The tiers are usually:

- IT workers acting like end users
- IT workers on other teams
- End users

The worse are end users who have an issue, but don't tell us about it until they have had the issue for two months and it needs to get fixed now because their work is SUPER BUSINESS CRITICAL!

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Kuros posted:

The worse are end users who have an issue, but don't tell us about it until they have had the issue for two months and it needs to get fixed now because their work is SUPER BUSINESS CRITICAL!


We went through a domain migration recently and the people running in used it to also upgrade people with old as poo poo laptops by just shipping the laptops out with instructions since we're like 95% WFH still.

A few months after they decided the migration was completed they killed the old domain. We got dozens of tickets from people who received the new PC, decided "I don't have time for this, I'm Very Important" and sat on the new domain laptops for MONTHS and now they can't use the ones we booted off the network.

Atillo
Jan 9, 2007

goatface posted:

We have a training session soon about how we should be using more visual team communication technologies. I think they mean teams wikis.

They probably mean something like Miro boards, an infinite whiteboard thing that is great for meeting collaboration but terrible for creating a long term knowledge base. Guess which one our "agile" teams try to use it for?

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Kuros posted:

The worse are end users who have an issue, but don't tell us about it until they have had the issue for two months and it needs to get fixed now because their work is SUPER BUSINESS CRITICAL!

I'll have you know that I didn't really care for two months because the workaround is easy enough for me, but the others get confused by directions like "copy and paste the folder" so now it is critically important.

This is the life of the end user.

Freaquency
May 10, 2007

"Yes I can hear you, I don't have ear cancer!"

Cthulu Carl posted:

We went through a domain migration recently and the people running in used it to also upgrade people with old as poo poo laptops by just shipping the laptops out with instructions since we're like 95% WFH still.

A few months after they decided the migration was completed they killed the old domain. We got dozens of tickets from people who received the new PC, decided "I don't have time for this, I'm Very Important" and sat on the new domain laptops for MONTHS and now they can't use the ones we booted off the network.

And no matter how many times you sent emails to everyone saying exactly what was going to happen, this completely foreseeable and avoidable outcome is still, somehow, IT’s fault :shepicide:

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

https://i.imgur.com/dSfptGz.mp4

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Freaquency posted:

And no matter how many times you sent emails to everyone saying exactly what was going to happen, this completely foreseeable and avoidable outcome is still, somehow, IT’s fault :shepicide:

There's an even more fun one coming up - In an IT storage room, we have about 50 mini desktops used as remote PCs for users in India that are about to get axed.

Last time we purged the unused ones, we got blown up with emails, IMs, and tickets demanding we do the needful no matter how many times we explained "The users assigned these PCs in the asset record were notified multiple times over several months this was happening. You either did not read those emails, or you are not the owner of the system, which means you violated process. This is why we've told y'all to use the dang VDI for years. Get bent."

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

I'm more of a rear end user myself (pooping on company time)

hooliganesh
Aug 1, 2003

REPENT!

Kuros posted:

The worse are end users who have an issue, but don't tell us about it until they have had the issue for two months and it needs to get fixed now because their work is SUPER BUSINESS CRITICAL!

These are the same shitbags who show up in the emergency room at 10:30 on Saturday night complaining of something they've been enduring for weeks and then complain to the charge nurse about how their swollen feet take precedent over the patient with crushing chest pain because I was here first!

Citycop
Apr 11, 2005

Greetings, Rainbow Dash.

I will now sing for you a song that I hope will ease your performance anxiety.
The IT department freaked out and locked all my accounts because I logged into office 365 from home and I'm on a VPN. They could not understand why my account was being used from Canada. This is a large organization. They asked me WHY I need a VPN. I told them I live in the boonies and I'm on a WAN. They said VPN's are suspicious to which I countered with pointing out how they use them for work at home peeps? No answer to that one.

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

Citycop posted:

The IT department freaked out and locked all my accounts because I logged into office 365 from home and I'm on a VPN. They could not understand why my account was being used from Canada. This is a large organization. They asked me WHY I need a VPN. I told them I live in the boonies and I'm on a WAN. They said VPN's are suspicious to which I countered with pointing out how they use them for work at home peeps? No answer to that one.

it would be dumb if they didn't question you on this tbh

bee
Dec 17, 2008


Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?
About two months ago, I got fired thanks to a colleague withholding information from me that I needed to do my job.

Today I received an email from her asking me if I remember the password to my work laptop, as she can't get into the computer. I assume they need to set it up for my replacement.

I honestly have nfi what password I was using since I used one of those generator things to create it, and I trashed all my notes related to that role after I got sacked.

So sad, too bad

Campbell
Jun 7, 2000
If you’re using a personal nordvpn or something and not an company vpn then yea they were well within their rights to at least check if your creds were compromised.

If they’re that big, 10 boomers are probably losing their accounts compared to 1 privacy conscious you.

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.

bee posted:

About two months ago, I got fired thanks to a colleague withholding information from me that I needed to do my job.

Today I received an email from her asking me if I remember the password to my work laptop, as she can't get into the computer. I assume they need to set it up for my replacement.

I honestly have nfi what password I was using since I used one of those generator things to create it, and I trashed all my notes related to that role after I got sacked.

So sad, too bad

Charge them 500 an hour plus travel expenses to come in and try some passwords. Give up after 10 hours.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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bee posted:

About two months ago, I got fired thanks to a colleague withholding information from me that I needed to do my job.

Today I received an email from her asking me if I remember the password to my work laptop, as she can't get into the computer. I assume they need to set it up for my replacement.

I honestly have nfi what password I was using since I used one of those generator things to create it, and I trashed all my notes related to that role after I got sacked.

So sad, too bad

'I have it written down at home, I'll get back to you tomorrow'
'Oh poo poo sorry I'm not home rn, I'll do it as soon as I get back'
'Oh drat, that notebook is in my storage locker, I'll stop by tomorrow after work and get it'
'Sorry! I forgot! Will do it tomorrow'
'My flight got pushed up, I'll get it in a few days'
repeat ad nauseum

e: Yeah try and charge them $500/hr first. duh.

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


Citycop posted:

The IT department freaked out and locked all my accounts because I logged into office 365 from home and I'm on a VPN. They could not understand why my account was being used from Canada. This is a large organization. They asked me WHY I need a VPN. I told them I live in the boonies and I'm on a WAN. They said VPN's are suspicious to which I countered with pointing out how they use them for work at home peeps? No answer to that one.

punishedkissinger posted:

it would be dumb if they didn't question you on this tbh
This, but work should also be giving you a VPN into their network. Really, everyone working from home should be using a work provided secure VPN to connect to your work network.

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
Honestly, I manage creatives who aren't tech savvy and who are fairly stubborn, and IT emailing them a list of complicated instructions each time there's an infrastructure transition (which we've been having a lot of lately due to several mergers), it is a hilarious clusterfuck each time.

No matter how much I explain you can email these folks instructions and it won't do poo poo, they are busy and will ignore it and we should plan support for that happening, IT will still be like, nah this is it, the one way we do it, each Man is and Island, and we're still going to be shocked about it when this method of sending email blasts out doesn't work seamlessly and blame the users when the inevitable happens.

In the end, part of my job is to make enough noise to force IT to just remote into these folks desktops and make their computer go for them, rather than trying to teach them how to do it themselves, bc don't try and fix them into the end user you wish they'd be, I just need them working. loving A.

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Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I'm updating a protocol previously written by a bunch of different people. Can't believe these JOKERS had the audacity to use a shade of grey one tone darker than my own preference. Also there's been at least one person slipping in a few double spaces after periods, I don't know how they sleep at night.

(also guess I'm in the committee now lol)

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