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Fire Safety Doug
Sep 3, 2006

99 % caffeine free is 99 % not my kinda thing

Kicked Throat posted:

never read it. i was trying to think of a classic homeopathic tome but nothing came to mind and i just googled "pharma bad book" XD.

That explains it! Goldacre is actually a good and respected science journalist and firmly anti-woo. I doubt Aaron would like his stuff.

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Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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wandler20 posted:

So next season teams will get a choice of Antonio Brown and Odell Beckham Jr as top WR options.

And probably Michael Thomas too via trade.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
Speaking of cap situations...

https://twitter.com/arjunmenon100/status/1456268981271027713?s=20

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



wandler20 posted:

So next season teams will get a choice of Antonio Brown and Odell Beckham Jr as top WR options.

ALLEN ROBINSON

Honestly, might be 10 guys above OBJ going by how he's played

Chris Godwin
Davante Adams
TY Hilton
Juju
AJ Green
Mike Williams
Emmanuel Sanders

and a bunch of other guys are all UFA's or having their contracts auto-void.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Hello from all the way to the left

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Gonna analytics their way out of the locker room. I had to look at the Browns reddit and gently caress are they melting down attacking OBJ and anyone who doesn't hate him.

https://twitter.com/ByNateUlrich/status/1456284260663443458
https://twitter.com/MRidenourABJ/status/1456281359215902726
https://twitter.com/ByNateUlrich/status/1456285352558272522

Ches Neckbeard fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Nov 4, 2021

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

The Saints.

The Saints never change.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
Godwin and Adams are not going to hit free agency.

Larch
Dec 20, 2004

BEE LOVER

Diva Cupcake posted:

Assuming he's released I think it's far more likely Beckham will pass through waivers unclaimed and sign for the vet minimum (Saints, etc) than teams clamoring with their waiver position for him.

That's what I think will happen also.

Guze
Oct 10, 2007

Regular Human Bartender

Can the Packers pay Rodgers in NFTs of cartoon monkeys?

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.
https://twitter.com/ochocinco/status/1456282689703718927?s=20

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002



Every chart like this has the browns dead center every time. We’re simply A Football Team that is there. A carbon neutral team.

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer

wandler20 posted:

Godwin and Adams are not going to hit free agency.

How do the packers clear like 50-60million in cap space to pay Adams top 5 WR money? They are starting at being 40m over the projected cap, so assuming he's gonna be at least a 10m cap hit, they need to free up 50m.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen

Cheap and bad? That's the Lions!


:thurman:

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

wilderthanmild posted:

How do the packers clear like 50-60million in cap space to pay Adams top 5 WR money? They are starting at being 40m over the projected cap, so assuming he's gonna be at least a 10m cap hit, they need to free up 50m.

When they trade Rodgers it'll help.

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?

wilderthanmild posted:

How do the packers clear like 50-60million in cap space to pay Adams top 5 WR money? They are starting at being 40m over the projected cap, so assuming he's gonna be at least a 10m cap hit, they need to free up 50m.

A quick call to Loomis should help solve any problems they might have.

Unless they just decide to completely blow things up I don't know how you let him walk.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002



He don’t miss

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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wandler20 posted:

A quick call to Loomis should help solve any problems they might have.

Unless they just decide to completely blow things up I don't know how you let him walk.

Trade us Rodgers, Loomis will then tell the Packers how to keep Adams with only $3.50 in cap space.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Mickey Loomis somehow claiming OBJ off the waivers immediately

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

The Giants being in a worse cap situation than the Rams and only having 2 wins is the funniest thing on this chart

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

wilderthanmild posted:

How do the packers clear like 50-60million in cap space to pay Adams top 5 WR money? They are starting at being 40m over the projected cap, so assuming he's gonna be at least a 10m cap hit, they need to free up 50m.

Cap fake, Z. Smith is likely going to be released or have a big restructure, P. Smith is likely going to be released or have a big restructure, extending young talent like Jaire / Savage / Gary would offer relief. There's a ton of stuff.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



DariusLikewise posted:

The Giants being in a worse cap situation than the Rams and only having 2 wins is the funniest thing on this chart

Their overthe cap page is full of red for players you're like, you're paying them that much? really?

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-giants/

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer

Silly Burrito posted:

Trade us Rodgers, Loomis will then tell the Packers how to keep Adams with only $3.50 in cap space.

If they only get rid of Rodgers, they are still in the red with dead money from him according to Overthecap. So it's how to keep Adams with with -$20 mil in cap space.

Packers look like they are pretty hosed cap wise. I guess like lots of restructures and void year bullshit could help, but we're talking needing to shift a total of like 60 million.

Hot Diggity! posted:

Cap fake, Z. Smith is likely going to be released or have a big restructure, P. Smith is likely going to be released or have a big restructure, extending young talent like Jaire / Savage / Gary would offer relief. There's a ton of stuff.

Trading rodgers, cutting z smith and cutting p smith lands them at only having 6 mil in cap space.

Like, maybe I'm misunderstanding how to use OverTheCap, but this doesn't look like an easy situation for the packers. Like they almost need to blow it up salary wise, but I'm not some cap expert guy.

wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Nov 4, 2021

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

When they make these lists they should just subtract 15 million from the Bengals cap, They always claim they need that buffer for draft picks and regular season hires but they never actually spend more than a few million of it.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Man the Packers top guys are all still on the hook for tons of prorated SB money.

Extending Rodgers / Z.Smith gets you close to $40m, but after that it's all cuts or ugly restructures.

Kurgarra Queen
Jun 11, 2008

GIVE ME MORE
SUPER BOWL
WINS

Kalli posted:

Their overthe cap page is full of red for players you're like, you're paying them that much? really?

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-giants/
LOL that Nate Solder contract was a real doozy. I am continuously amazed that Gettleman has a job.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

wilderthanmild posted:

If they only get rid of Rodgers, they are still in the red with dead money from him according to Overthecap. So it's how to keep Adams with with -$20 mil in cap space.

Packers look like they are pretty hosed cap wise. I guess like lots of restructures and void year bullshit could help, but we're talking needing to shift a total of like 60 million.

Trading rodgers, cutting z smith and cutting p smith lands them at only having 6 mil in cap space.

Like, maybe I'm misunderstanding how to use OverTheCap, but this doesn't look like an easy situation for the packers. Like they almost need to blow it up salary wise, but I'm not some cap expert guy.

Do not doubt Russ Ball. The dude is a cap wizard.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


The salary cap is fake, the only team dumb enough to get hamstring by the salary cap is the Chicago bears

AndrewP
Apr 21, 2010

the cap is real but less consequential if you have a HOF coach or QB like Sean Payton and Rodgers

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

I was not expecting that and it sent me into a coughing fit while on a video call. One of the guys caught it and asked what I was laughing at and I showed him and now he's laughing

Larch
Dec 20, 2004

BEE LOVER
I miss Chad. I love Chad. I want more Chad.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill

Larch posted:

I miss Chad. I love Chad. I want more Chad.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I mean when you think about it Tom Brady is pretty much Jesus

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1456051900760133632

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I mean when you think about it Tom Brady is pretty much Jesus

https://twitter.com/espn/status/1456051900760133632

They are similar in that they have both cheated.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Oh okay, PFF grades are good actually

https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1456244990884159488

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

Kalli posted:

This is their whoopsie atoning for past mistakes year

Dead money:

$8m Trumaine Johnson
$5m Sam Darnold
$4m Le'Veon Bell
$3.6m Quincy Enunwa
$3.1m Kelechi Osemele
+ others = $30.5m
$30m in dead cap that will come off after this year but the kicker is the $27m they have on IR. Injuries just piled up and cap space evaporated.

The Bills have less than $1m on IR for comparison. I assume they're just extremely lucky though.

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
This is concerning

https://twitter.com/danielrpopper/status/1455248042248990723?s=21

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Diva Cupcake posted:

$30m in dead cap that will come off after this year but the kicker is the $27m they have on IR. Injuries just piled up and cap space evaporated.

The Bills have less than $1m on IR for comparison. I assume they're just extremely lucky though.

It's funny where in between looking at that and the Giants situation, man the Jets are in a way better spot then they are.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

I like Mac. I just hope he starts reading the field faster or he is going to be dead by the end of the year.

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Rogue Elephant
May 1, 2007

Kalli posted:

Their overthe cap page is full of red for players you're like, you're paying them that much? really?

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-york-giants/

It's pretty impressive to have Dante Pettis on the dead money list twice while he's still on the team and still terrible

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