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Healbot posted:It's not. It is. They very similar series
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Andrast posted:are DQ-nerds just mad that people know what final fantasy is, unlike DQ I wholeheartedly agree, this comparison makes complete and total sense Edit: Andrast posted:It is. 
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Nov 4, 2021 19:34
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Andrast posted:are smt nerds just mad that people know what persona is, unlike smt Nah. Persona is a good comparison point for SMT but reviewers have a history of criticizing SMT for having things that make it distinct to Persona and likewise. 
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Nov 4, 2021 19:36
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Which fusions in SMTV get the hottest anime demon babes
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Andrast posted:are smt nerds just mad that people know what persona is, unlike smt 
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Andrast posted:are smt nerds just mad that people know what persona is, unlike smt Yes and agreed
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How about reviewing things based on its own merits without comparing it to another series which doesn’t help an outsider who doesn’t know what the other series is
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Detective No. 27 posted:Nah. Persona is a good comparison point for SMT but reviewers have a history of criticizing SMT for having things that make it distinct to Persona and likewise. and that's fine? there's a reason persona is much more popular than smt mostly thing seems like people desperately trying to dunk on reviewers for having pretty reasonable opinions
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Andrast posted:and that's fine? there's a reason persona is much more popular than smt They are not reasonable opinions though lol. It's a super lazy poor critique.
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I said come in! posted:They are not reasonable opinions though lol. It's a super lazy poor critique. yeah how dare they prefer some other thing to a slightly different thing
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cant wait to play the dark souls of persona, the game with no heart and upbeat music.
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Andrast posted:and that's fine? there's a reason persona is much more popular than smt nice try Mr. Video Game Reviewer, but your mask is slipping
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Andrast posted:and that's fine? there's a reason persona is much more popular than smt Andrast posted:yeah how dare they prefer some other thing to a slightly different thing 
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Andrast posted:yeah how dare they prefer some other thing to a slightly different thing It's basically never reasonable to review something by saying it should have been a different game with entirely different design goals
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Andrast posted:and that's fine? there's a reason persona is much more popular than smt If you put the things that make Persona unique into SMT you get... Persona so why make a SMT game. They have different goals. I do agree SMT games could use a bit more characterization, but saying "SMT is a worse Persona because I can't kiss waifus" is just bad. okay who the gently caress said the OST is easily forgettable i have to show them my samurai skills
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Using Persona as a point of reference is fine. Complaining that SMT is not persona because you like persona more is dumb, that's like saying all movies should be about superheroes making quips because marvel is populer.
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Nov 4, 2021 19:43
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Andrast posted:yeah how dare they prefer some other thing to a slightly different thing This but unironically lmao. It's literally a terrible writing style that needs to go away. It's a sign of someone who doesn't know what they are talking about and is in the wrong field of work.
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Andrast posted:and that's fine? there's a reason persona is much more popular than smt There's giving an unfamiliar audience a comparison for understanding and then there's not judging a work by its own merits. That's the issue.
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sometimes a game falls down on its own merits and people illustrate that by comparing the game's failings to games that are better when a platformer sucks and somebody compares it to a good platformer, that is not the same as refusing to evaluate it on its own merits i havent read the reviews or played the games so can't say whether the reviewers are being dumb or not. on the one hand, game reviewers are frequently dumb, but on the other hand people who get mad at game reviewers frequently are as well ive never played an smt game. i liked p4 golden. ill probably give it a shot, but probably not at $60 cause its almost certain i wont be able to devote jrpg levels of time to it. but when its $15 or $20 ill prob give it a shot! Detective No. 27 posted:There's giving an unfamiliar audience a comparison for understanding and then there's not judging a work by its own merits. That's the issue. 
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Andrast posted:yeah how dare they prefer some other thing to a slightly different thing Saying something is not as good as another thing by just saying it’s worse without explaining why isn’t a good critique
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Andrast posted:yeah how dare they prefer some other thing to a slightly different thing SCTV > SMTV 
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hatty posted:Saying something is not as good as another thing by just saying it’s not as good without explaining why isn’t a good critique i'm sure the meme image with a few sentences encapsulated the entire essences of those reviews and the reviewers said nothing else in them
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Andrast posted:yeah how dare they prefer some other thing to a slightly different thing No one cares if they prefer other thing. The issue is they are comparing thing to unrelated thing instead of reviewing it either on its own merits or in relation to past entries. I don't even care about Persona or SMT. This is just being lazy and putting out a soundbite. Why are people insistent on being an rear end in this thread?
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Also, who do I have to bribe to make a HD release of Devil Summoner 2 happen?
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Walla posted:Why are people insistent on being an rear end in this thread? switch thread is a hostile zone, years of bad ports and crap nintendo online have jaded the souls
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Achmed Jones posted:sometimes a game falls down on its own merits and people illustrate that by comparing the game's failings to games that are better its the difference between saying you liked Sonic 2 more than Mario World and saying that Mario World was bad because it didn't have Sonic 2's movement system
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Walla posted:No one cares if they prefer other thing. The issue is they are comparing thing to unrelated thing instead of reviewing it either on its own merits or in relation to past entries. I don't even care about Persona or SMT. This is just being lazy and putting out a soundbite. Yeah people aren't lazily trying to dunk on reviewers at all here
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Walla posted:Why are people insistent on being an rear end in this thread? Why, it's almost as if an open discussion forum allows people with dissenting opinions to post them!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-Jz_SKBY0
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Comparing a new thing to a popular thing that is made by the same studio and also shares a lot of mechanics is an incredibly sane point of comparison to make, in fact.
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I said come in! posted:Also, who do I have to bribe to make a HD release of Devil Summoner 2 happen? me, hmu for paypal info but i only take friends and family
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Achmed Jones posted:sometimes a game falls down on its own merits and people illustrate that by comparing the game's failings to games that are better Uh.. I would be careful with that decision. I've tried games from both series and I really liked SMT and coouldn't really get into Persona. If you liked P4 there's a good chance SMT V will work on you like holy water on a vampire.
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Srice posted:Comparing a new thing to a popular thing that is made by the same studio and also shares a lot of mechanics is an incredibly sane point of comparison to make, in fact. Except those aren't the things being lazily criticized.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Also if you like turn based RPGs but don't want one that's like 30 hours long Fuga: Melodies of Steel (aka the game where you fire kemonos at nazis) was enjoyable and not long by RPG standards I looked this up and I've looked at it before but I was worried it was going to be some cheap crap game. It's actually good? 100YrsofAttitude posted:Happy to help, hopefully something in there will pique your interest. Also it's good for me to keep handy on my first page of posting in case people ask for games in the future. It feels fairly comprehensive. I have Steamworld Quest and Heist. They're some of my favorites. I think I really need to get SoR4. I bought the Double Dragon and Kunio Kun collection and my son loves it but it's buggy as hell. Thanks again!
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hatty posted:Saying something is not as good as another thing by just saying it’s worse without explaining why isn’t a good critique the IGN review goes into a couple specific things from persona they would like to see (these two examples are about grinding and plot pace) quote:I think about the Showtime attacks and unstable shadows added in the Royal version of Persona 5 as examples of how Atlus has tackled this problem successfully in the past. quote:It takes upwards of 20 hours to find any personal motivation beyond survival and figuring out what's going on, and the companion characters are also very under-developed. I feel the criticisms are fair for the most part, but the "persona without the heart" subhead is going to get people mad
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Persona is far more popular than SMT, but making your review about comparison between the two series is extremely dumb primarily because most people have never played either. Especially most Nintendo owners.
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SMT5 in a week and I haven't even beaten Dread yet. Nintendo Switch has too many good games.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Persona is far more popular than SMT, but making your review about comparison between the two series is extremely dumb primarily because most people have never played either. Especially most Nintendo owners. That's not true. The last 2 mainline games were on the 3DS, as well as a number of spin offs. Plenty of Nintendo players are familiar with SMT.
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