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Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



“trumped up trickle down”

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Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

sleeptalker posted:

He's running for Texas governor now lol, he won't go away.



he was in the cult of the dead cow in the 90s

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Spergin Morlock posted:

he was in the cult of the dead cow in the 90s

he was in a band with Cedric Bixler

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
beto deez

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Calf cramp cums

Mywhatacleanturtle
Jul 23, 2006

to this day I still maintain that Pete and Beto are secretly the same person, somehow.

Stunning Honky
Sep 7, 2004

" . . . "
they're the reincarnation of Erskine Bowles: forever dem also rans who sneak into bullshit places

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Ronwayne posted:

The phrase "banality of evil" is overused and constantly used to assault the idea that there is a shitton of cartoonish over the top evil in the world. You can only be banal so long before you wrap around to the other side.

arendt belongs in the trash

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.

Mywhatacleanturtle posted:

to this day I still maintain that Pete and Beto are secretly the same person, somehow.

They both ooze succ, but Pete has that ghoulish psychosis most political climbers have.

Beto is kinda unique in being a sad sack that, while more relatable to normal human beings, is even sadder when your goal is the accumulation of power.

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

arendt belongs in the trash

I mean, I don't want to poo poo on a holocaust survivor, but one of liberalism's biggest philosophical bludgeons "all disagreement and evil is either misunderstanding or mental illness," is a conclusion bourne from the idea that all people are just doing the best with what they have and completely disregards spite driven psychotics and hooting deranged death cultists. People that live their lives like they're playing the devil in a lovely community theatre play. They might be assisted and enabled by banal types, but the inspiration to do over the top grotesque poo poo is not something that can only be defined as 'banal' if you're just stretching the definition of it to encompass everything.

We just had 5 straight years of some of the most comical, entertaining, and masterfully performed theatrical evil in political history, and season 2 is coming soon. (So far) Its had a lower body count than other such incidents (well, I guess not if you add the million dead from Covid), but its good ol' biblical spit in your face book of revelations poo poo.

Ronwayne has issued a correction as of 06:49 on Nov 5, 2021

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
The whole deal with the banality of evil is that you can get liberals to do anything so long as it's banal, and they make up the skeletal structure of every capitalist state. Evil at scale must be banal because it must include liberals in its execution.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

arendt belongs in the trash

I thought she was good why is she trash now

the sex ghost
Sep 6, 2009
Just remembered drumpf. lol

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.

30.5 Days posted:

The whole deal with the banality of evil is that you can get liberals to do anything so long as it's banal, and they make up the skeletal structure of every capitalist state. Evil at scale must be banal because it must include liberals in its execution.

I've always wondered how many cycles of purgings the fascists would have to do before white cis-het right-libs were on the menu (excluding those already dead because they found out they were apparently 1/16th jewish/black/other targeted minority)

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
Wasn't there a whole thing about how even the USSR had to keep the libs who served as government bureaucrats?

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.
My knowledge here is probably just enough to say something really stupid, but here goes: wasn't the post wwII/mid 20th century calcified apparatchik class one of the big reasons for the Mao-ML split? The perpetual revolution somehow trying to avoid the vanguard turning into the political equivalent of a fossilized kidney stone tearing your organs out?

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

In 2015 Marco Rubio was asked who he would like to have a beer with and he said Malala.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

the sex ghost posted:

Just remembered drumpf. lol

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

the sex ghost posted:

Just remembered drumpf. lol

He also loving begged Trump to run for president, and welp

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

30.5 Days posted:

Wasn't there a whole thing about how even the USSR had to keep the libs who served as government bureaucrats?

Lenin was basically forced by circumstances to keep the Tsarist bureaucracy in place wholesale, and bemoaned the fact he had to keep them around yeah

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

chaleski posted:

He also loving begged Trump to run for president, and welp

Easily the funniest he's ever been

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

poo poo POST MALONE posted:

I thought she was good why is she trash now

extremely racist, wrote at length about how colonialism was good because black people are backward animals, had a nazi boyfriend (Heidegger) who she covered for and defended throughout her life, her whole theory of totalitarianism was basically intended to equate communism with nazism as pro-US cold warrior poo poo

Ronwayne
Nov 20, 2007

That warm and fuzzy feeling.

Milo and POTUS posted:

Easily the funniest he's ever been

2015 was basically a hundred-finger monkey's paw all curling at once.

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

both kamala harris and pete buttigieg are the scions of notable socialists

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

John Charity Spring posted:

extremely racist, wrote at length about how colonialism was good because black people are backward animals, had a nazi boyfriend (Heidegger) who she covered for and defended throughout her life, her whole theory of totalitarianism was basically intended to equate communism with nazism as pro-US cold warrior poo poo

https://twitter.com/Harmony_Holiday/status/1301506588981694464

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Ronwayne posted:

My knowledge here is probably just enough to say something really stupid, but here goes: wasn't the post wwII/mid 20th century calcified apparatchik class one of the big reasons for the Mao-ML split? The perpetual revolution somehow trying to avoid the vanguard turning into the political equivalent of a fossilized kidney stone tearing your organs out?

sort of, yeah. I've posted about this at more length in other threads, but basically there was an internal struggle within China in the 50s, when the USSR under Khrushchev was offering enormous amounts of aid and technical support for Chinese development but they more or less insisted that all that support be used to build China along the same model as the USSR: bureaucratic centrally-planned state socialism focused on urbanization and industrialization by extracting an agricultural surplus from the peasantry. And the Soviet advisers insisted that China go slow and steady because they had firsthand experience of the damage and instability that overreaching could cause. Some CPC insiders were fine with this, and China's first Five-Year Plan went quite well along these lines, but Mao didn't like it because it was too bureaucratic and too focused on creating industry and comfort in cities, whereas the main base of support for Maoism was the peasantry, and because he was suspicious that the Soviets were trying to keep China from advancing quickly because they feared China overtaking them as the heart of world socialism. One big cause of the Sino-Soviet Split was that in the Second Five-Year Plan (Great Leap Forward) Mao abandoned the Soviet model in favour of a more Maoist model of vastly accelerated decentralized development and it was a disaster, and the Soviets were like "I told you so" and Mao was like "gently caress off."

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



sleeptalker posted:

He's running for Texas governor now lol, he won't go away.



HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Spergin Morlock posted:

he was in the cult of the dead cow in the 90s

He's certainly a lulz cow, yes.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

that time the imperial star destroyer smugly thought it was going to blow up a transport by calling it the first catch of the day and then just eating poo poo to two ion cannon hits

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011


lmao

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013


how could beto do this to a heckin' rad dog

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

zegermans posted:

that time the imperial star destroyer smugly thought it was going to blow up a transport by calling it the first catch of the day and then just eating poo poo to two ion cannon hits

That time the transport blew up with chewie on board but then it turned out he was on the second transport somehow off screen(!?)

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

You could do a ton of funny fantasy / scifi political fuckups

FF14 That time they decided to break the peace with eternally long lived dragons by killing one of them and stealing its eyes to do parlor tricks with, starting a thousand year long hellwar that was only solved when some lalafell murdered the gently caress out of the leadership of both sides

Foundation That time they decided to TRUST THE PLAN because there is no way that space Genghis Khan could conquer them, right? Hari Rodham Seldon would have predicted this!

Oh, and the final punchline, a big political lmao in both the real and fantasy worlds: Game of Thrones Season 8

Feldegast42 has issued a correction as of 15:28 on Nov 5, 2021

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Pelosi, Schumer, et al putting on dashikis and being slowly, carefully lowered into a kneeling position on the capital rotunda before some photos were taken and they were slowly, carefully lifted back to standing

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Feldegast42 posted:

That time the transport blew up with chewie on board but then it turned out he was on the second transport somehow off screen(!?)

That time it turned out General Hux was feeding information to the rebels the entire time, but it didn't go anywhere and he gets killed by a guy who kind of looks like an older version of him who just bit into a sour lemon

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Feldegast42 posted:

You could do a ton of funny fantasy / scifi political fuckups

FF14 That time they decided to break the peace with eternally long lived dragons by killing one of them and stealing its eyes to do parlor tricks with, starting a thousand year long hellwar that was only solved when some lalafell murdered the gently caress out of the leadership of both sides

Foundation That time they decided to TRUST THE PLAN because there is no way that space Genghis Khan could conquer them, right? Hari Rodham Seldon would have predicted this!

Oh, and the final punchline, a big political lmao in both the real and fantasy worlds: Game of Thrones Season 8

lol who was the lady that tweeted after the end of GoT saying she had been a daenerys fan all along and felt betrayed that she actually was evil and not a Girl Power Icon?

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

Spergin Morlock posted:

lol who was the lady that tweeted after the end of GoT saying she had been a daenerys fan all along and felt betrayed that she actually was evil and not a Girl Power Icon?

Sally Albright maybe?

I love it when a bit of entertainment isn't subtle at all but people still miss the message because of a mix of stupid and/or needing to not get it

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Fortaleza posted:

I love it when a bit of entertainment isn't subtle at all but people still miss the message because of a mix of stupid and/or needing to not get it

However, upon closer inspection, Squid Game appears to actually show communism and authoritarianism more than it depicts capitalism, and it’s all seen in the environment of the Games.

The Games are presented as a solution to the economic struggles of the contestants, similar to how communism is preached to those in financial distress. The harsh reality is that communism always ends in misery and bloodshed, and with an elite class exploiting everyone below them.

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/director-squid-game-says-about-capitalism-actually-about-communism

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

oh wow. I'm still in the middle of her fascism tome but I'll keep reading that garbage.

also: lol at the related tweets all being about other women named Hannah

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

Lib and let die posted:

However, upon closer inspection, Squid Game appears to actually show communism and authoritarianism more than it depicts capitalism, and it’s all seen in the environment of the Games.

The Games are presented as a solution to the economic struggles of the contestants, similar to how communism is preached to those in financial distress. The harsh reality is that communism always ends in misery and bloodshed, and with an elite class exploiting everyone below them.

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/director-squid-game-says-about-capitalism-actually-about-communism

Yes! Oh my god there's a comments section too.

In my mind nothing will top people giving The Usual Suspects middling to negative reviews for not revealing who Keyser Soze is but this sort of political version of that is like sweet nectar to me

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Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Fortaleza posted:

Yes! Oh my god there's a comments section too.

In my mind nothing will top people giving The Usual Suspects middling to negative reviews for not revealing who Keyser Soze is but this sort of political version of that is like sweet nectar to me

I would argue that the old man’s ability to view other human beings as things for him to toy with and to kill doesn’t stem from his ultra-wealthy status. That’s a character flaw that would be present whether he was wealthy or poor. His wealth is merely an amoral tool that allowed him to make and fund the Games (he could have done something helpful or beneficial with his money but chose not to). Money, like power, usually just amplifies already existing character traits.

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