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Starsfan posted:The algorithm they are using seems really basic, like i'm pretty sure when the computer discovers a card in the tavern brawl it always takes the cheapest option offered. Which is how I got 2 Patches off my Discover a Legendary minion Treasure
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I still kinda suck with this but it's hilarious when it works right. Here is a guide and a game I just won: https://outof.cards/hearthstone/3810-edwin-defias-kingpin-is-making-miracles-a-full-guide-to-miracle-rogue-on-the-wildest-of-wednesdays https://hsreplay.net/replay/7bTV9wrxdbZn6z57nUoaK7 ### Edwin Miracle Rogue # Class: Rogue # Format: Wild # # 2x (0) Backstab # 2x (0) Counterfeit Coin # 2x (0) Desk Imp # 2x (0) Murloc Tinyfin # 2x (0) Preparation # 2x (0) Shadowstep # 2x (0) Snowflipper Penguin # 2x (0) Target Dummy # 2x (0) Wisp # 2x (1) Conceal # 1x (1) Helpless Hatchling # 2x (1) Kindling Elemental # 2x (1) Secret Passage # 2x (1) SI:7 Extortion # 2x (2) Captain's Parrot # 1x (4) Edwin, Defias Kingpin # AAEBAYaSBALJiQPtgAQOswGSBN4HjRD1uwLiygKqywPP0QOt7gOh9AORnwT2nwT3nwTboAQA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone And I am having an insane amount of fun with this: ### DR Hunt # Class: Hunter # Format: Wild # # 2x (0) Devouring Swarm # 2x (1) Animated Broomstick # 2x (1) Play Dead # 2x (1) Tracking # 2x (2) Feign Death # 2x (2) Nerubian Egg # 2x (3) Death's Head Cultist # 2x (3) Diving Gryphon # 2x (3) Nine Lives # 1x (3) Teron Gorefiend # 2x (3) Terrorscale Stalker # 2x (4) Mok'Nathal Lion # 2x (5) Burning Blade Acolyte # 2x (5) Carnivorous Cube # 2x (5) Imported Tarantula # 1x (5) The Rat King # AAEBAa/XAwLUugPK+wMOxw/YwgKczQKL4QLylgOOrQP2ugOVzQP16AOY6gOU/AOH/QOpnwTRoAQA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone Desert Bus fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Nov 4, 2021 |
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victorious posted:I'd love to hear if the Devs have an explanation or any kind of reasoning behind this brawl. I mean its probably AI data gathering or something it's just such a terrible way to do it.
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Despite neither priest nor mage counting towards the 5-class quest and warrior never playing its quest, I was genuinely impressed by the brawl AI. I had a damaged 0/3 treasure chest on board and the AI played an Augmerchant to put a divine shield on it when the enemy would otherwise have had enough damage on board to kill it next turn. My opinion changed fast because the AI then proceeded to attack an enemy minion with it. 
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Going to try this list instead, it incorporates elements from this one: https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/edwin-rogue-6-legend-haeil-wild-s92/ ### Edwin Miracle Rogue # Class: Rogue # Format: Wild # # 2x (0) Backstab # 2x (0) Counterfeit Coin # 2x (0) Desk Imp # 2x (0) Murloc Tinyfin # 2x (0) Preparation # 2x (0) Shadowstep # 2x (0) Snowflipper Penguin # 2x (0) Target Dummy # 2x (0) Wisp # 2x (1) Blackwater Cutlass # 1x (1) Conceal # 2x (1) Safety Inspector # 2x (1) Secret Passage # 2x (1) SI:7 Extortion # 2x (2) Captain's Parrot # 1x (4) Edwin, Defias Kingpin # AAEBAYaSBALeB+2ABA6zAZIEjRD1uwLiygKqywPP0QPh5AOh9AO9gASRnwT2nwT3nwTboAQA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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In a game I was playing Warrior the AI summoned a minion than immediately used the combo card to do 5 damage to a minion on it.
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Annnnnd I've updated it again. This is super super fun: ### Edwin Miracle Rogue # Class: Rogue # Format: Wild # # 2x (0) Backstab # 2x (0) Counterfeit Coin # 2x (0) Desk Imp # 2x (0) Murloc Tinyfin # 2x (0) Preparation # 2x (0) Shadowstep # 2x (0) Snowflipper Penguin # 2x (0) Target Dummy # 2x (0) Wisp # 2x (1) Blackwater Cutlass # 1x (1) Conceal # 2x (1) Kindling Elemental # 2x (1) Safety Inspector # 1x (1) Secret Passage # 1x (1) SI:7 Extortion # 2x (2) Captain's Parrot # 1x (4) Edwin, Defias Kingpin # AAEBAYaSBATeB6rLA6H0A+2ABA2zAZIEjRD1uwLiygLP0QPh5AOt7gO9gASRnwT2nwT3nwTboAQA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone And now I'm really going off the rails lol: ### Edwin Miracle Rogue # Class: Rogue # Format: Wild # # 2x (0) Backstab # 2x (0) Counterfeit Coin # 2x (0) Desk Imp # 2x (0) Murloc Tinyfin # 2x (0) Preparation # 2x (0) Shadowstep # 2x (0) Snowflipper Penguin # 2x (0) Target Dummy # 2x (0) Wisp # 2x (1) Blackwater Cutlass # 2x (1) Brain Freeze # 1x (1) Conceal # 2x (1) Safety Inspector # 1x (1) SI:7 Extortion # 2x (3) Raiding Party # 1x (4) Edwin, Defias Kingpin # 1x (6) Mr. Smite # AAEBAYaSBATeB6H0A7+ABO2ABA2zAY0Q9bsC4soC1YwDx84Dz9ED4eQDvYAEkZ8E9p8E958E26AEAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone Desert Bus fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Nov 4, 2021 |
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Strawberry Panda posted:In a game I was playing Warrior the AI summoned a minion than immediately used the combo card to do 5 damage to a minion on it.
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:edit: lol it's so op Wasn't this about poison rogue before it was edited? I wanted to know more about maining that on ladder. What's the good list right now?
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I just lost a less than 0.1% loss  
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Any tips on laddering with the battle ready Questline Hunter deck? This is my first time trying to climb.
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victorious posted:I'd love to hear if the Devs have an explanation or any kind of reasoning behind this brawl. I mean its probably AI data gathering or something it's just such a terrible way to do it. They could say they wanted to simulate the frustration of directing a play that goes off the rails and none of the actors know their lines. So you're just impotently trying to gesture for them to do the right thing but it just gets worse and worse.
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Tezzeract posted:Any tips on laddering with the battle ready Questline Hunter deck? This is my first time trying to climb. Against quest mage you want to avoid playing any minions for them to cast spells on. This means using your overwhelms and bola shots on your own minions since you still make progress on the quest that way. Use your hero power as much as you can, and don’t attack them with Rinling’s if they have a secret up.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Against quest mage you want to avoid playing any minions for them to cast spells on. This means using your overwhelms and bola shots on your own minions since you still make progress on the quest that way. Use your hero power as much as you can, and don’t attack them with Rinling’s if they have a secret up. it's the dumbest matchup
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So as token/aggro Druid, what do you do against quest mage? Just not play minions until you can put down a big board on one turn, then just hope they don’t have fire sale?
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:So as token/aggro Druid, what do you do against quest mage? Just not play minions until you can put down a big board on one turn, then just hope they don’t have fire sale? No, def just play minions on curve per usual. Often they don't have the nut removal, and are missing a spell school, and your pressure doesn't give them time to draw for it. And yes to the Hope they dont have Fire Sale plan. You're not favored in this matchup anyways.
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Tezzeract posted:Any tips on laddering with the battle ready Questline Hunter deck? This is my first time trying to climb. Everything Scrub said, and don't try to greed your quick shots. Drawing the card is unimportant, advancing the quest and doing face damage are.
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AnacondaHL posted:No, def just play minions on curve per usual. Often they don't have the nut removal, and are missing a spell school, and your pressure doesn't give them time to draw for it. Yeah, a lot of the time you just gotta Make them have it and don't overthink things. You win by attacking with guys, and waiting 8 turns to play all your minions out isn't going to make them any less likely to have removal in hand (and at this point probably discounted).
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So they buffed Diablo in BG right? Cause his little extra minion thing pops out twice as big now. Still see him eliminated in 5th every game though.
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The extra minion grows every 4 rounds. 3/6/12 etc
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Disargeria posted:The extra minion grows every 4 rounds. 3/6/12 etc It comes out as a 6/6 the first time now, then a 10/10. Edit: I guess it's a 5/5 and was just buffed by something else. Elysium fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Nov 5, 2021 |
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Just jumped into a round and yeah, it started as a 5 then a 10.
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Mercs gripes: Hysteria: Choose a character - it attacks until it dies. Except it's capped at 10 attacks or so. Valanyr: Restore your characters to full health. Except when it just doesn't do anything, for random unknown reasons.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:So as token/aggro Druid, what do you do against quest mage? Just not play minions until you can put down a big board on one turn, then just hope they don’t have fire sale? Just go all in, if they have it they have it and if they dont you win. If you’re really hitting a lot of quest mages and want to target that matchup you can try adding a robes of protection to the deck
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There are some abilities that prevent healing that turn. Maybe that's it?
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Chernabog posted:There are some abilities that prevent healing that turn. Maybe that's it? It wasn't that - i mean it was only the hysteria not working as written that cost me anything. The Valanyr thing was definitely a bug, I wasn't fighting anything which could prevent healing.
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Lol wtf. I know duels is supposed to be full of bullshit OP cards, but dude just played a card against me that cleared the board and made me take DOUBLE DAMAGE the rest of the game. I was Diablo. So now my hero power did 6 damage to my face.
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BGs Sneed needs a nerf. He's way too stong.
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I lost interest in playing a little before the Stormwind set came out, how's the game holding up?
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Toebone posted:I lost interest in playing a little before the Stormwind set came out, how's the game holding up? You made a good call. Semi-seriously, Stormwind was for the majority received pretty negatively initially with un-interactive combo decks out the wazoo. The mini-set looks like it's shaping up to be similarly poorly received, except this time it's because of aggro. Mercenaries was the big new mode released but people have soured on it after doing all the solo-content and the PvP is effectively flashy rock-paper-scissors, plus some generally stupid balance/marketing decisions. I don't know on the BG front and  Duels. Maybe best to wait it out until the next set.Edit: Also an interesting oversight with Jerry Rig Carpenter, some of the "choose one" effects are coded in game as 0 mana rather than the original cards mana cost. So that means in Wild currently, Jerry Rig Carpenter is a 2 mana 2/1 + 6/6 Taunt + heal 12 (Hidden Oasis). Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Nov 6, 2021 |
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Toebone posted:I lost interest in playing a little before the Stormwind set came out, how's the game holding up? Counterpoint to the above: standard has never been more fun than it was with this set. Every class has decks that are actually capable of finishing the game in a reasonable time. All the meta decks feel great to play and there's even some off-meta options that are fun. Battleground is really solid right now. Mercenaries is actually fun now that I've gotten the hang of it and reached the endgame PvE/low tier pvp content. Wild is also fantastic right now. In all honesty I think the game has never been more fun. Any game mode you queue into you're gonna have an enjoyable time.
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Oof, I thought Gruul 12's 'kill 30 dragons' was an annoying task, now 14 is 'kill 40 dragons with Gruul's ability2'. The merc task difficulty tuning is absurdly wonky.
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Counter counter point. I've been playing since beta, made legend a few times, and this is the only time I've considered quitting. Standard and Wild are just about copying the best (and usually most braindead) decks from the internet and whoever is luckier wins most of the times. Games get decided, if not outright by matchup, by the draw or by random effects with little to no player agency. In arena you could consistently get a 6 or 7 win average with solid drafting and play. Now it is way too random with cards that automatically win games and discover effects that make those cards show up more often than they should. "Oh, you got Sneed's Goliath? Cool, guess I lose." Battlegrounds has had its ups and downs but it has been the only mode that has kept me coming back.
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I disagree with pretty much all of that, I just don't get it. Wild especially I dont understand how you can be bored of it. There's just so much space for 52% tier 2 decks in the format. I've been regularly hitting diamond 5 off eureka shaman and tonk Hunter just doing daily quests. There's such a huge card pool available that it seems basically impossible to be bored in to me.
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Wild feels a lot better right now than standard, standard has devolved back into like 4 different arena decks that check quest mage; wild has a lot of variety after the ban (would be better if they banned warrior quest too)
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Casual Wild is fun as hell, lots of variety. Plus you encounter a lot of the same people over and over and most of them are friendly enough to share codes for decks that look fun.
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L0cke17 posted:I disagree with pretty much all of that, I just don't get it. I don't get bored of the decks I make, I get bored of going against the same 4 or 5 decks over and over again when there are so many possibilities.
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