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Alucard posted:Hosting some folks for a viewing party of ⊃⋃⋂⊂ and trying to get some ideas for theme relevant snacks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF1iSzOll34
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Nov 5, 2021 17:44
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That coffee looks so good. Heart of artichoke plugs.
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Nov 5, 2021 17:47
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Duncan Fries
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Nov 5, 2021 17:52
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cocaine mixed with cinnamon for spice
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Nov 5, 2021 17:52
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Frementos
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Nov 5, 2021 17:53
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gummy worms served on a bed of salt also, weed
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Nov 5, 2021 17:54
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3 layer bean gesserit dip
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Nov 5, 2021 17:55
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i have been wondering, since dune has had a dedicated culty fanbase for many decades, a large percentage of which is nerdy engineering/science types: has anyone ever attempted to build a functioning stillsuit? i saw a dude on shark tank once with some kind of weird pants that you could piss into, in case of emergency. but it did not recycle the water and make it drinkable again. i guess basically just a diaper but the size of full pants and made of rubber. the sharks didn't like it. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Nov 5, 2021 |
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Nov 5, 2021 17:58
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So is there a reason why the Baron calls Leto his cousin the movie? Are they using it in a non-literal sense? Just seems weird to include given that readers know Leto is literally Shaddam’s cousin. Are they going to omit Jessica’s parentage reveal because it’ll seem like a ripoff of The Empire Strikes Back to new fans? Leto holding Jessica, the daughter of his cousin, starts to get into incest territory (not that the book doesn’t have plenty of incest in other ways) I saw the movie for a second time last night. I didn’t think the editing was especially flashy on first viewing (especially compared to something like Incendies or Arrival which do amazing cross-cutting during crucial reveals), but I was able to appreciate how finely tuned the editing was to communicate the maximum amount of information in the subtlest form possible. Like when Paul is watching the video about spice, and the camera cuts to the shot of the Guild ship… very subtle but effective way of communicating a lot of information. Earwicker posted:i have been wondering, since dune has had a dedicated culty fanbase for many decades, a large percentage of which is nerdy engineering/science types: https://www.cc.com/video/f31bgc/nathan-for-you-becoming-the-chili-man
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Nov 5, 2021 17:59
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it took me until the third viewing to get that the duke being able to fly the 'thopter so well was setup when he said he wanted to be a pilot earlier
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Nov 5, 2021 18:02
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cheese wheels within cracker wheels
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Nov 5, 2021 18:05
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water
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Nov 5, 2021 18:05
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Earwicker posted:i have been wondering, since dune has had a dedicated culty fanbase for many decades, a large percentage of which is nerdy engineering/science types: In case of emergency. Absolutely not a fetish
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Nov 5, 2021 18:13
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Earwicker posted:i have been wondering, since dune has had a dedicated culty fanbase for many decades, a large percentage of which is nerdy engineering/science types: I don't know about people actually building suits but there have been a ton of nerdonauts who write big thinkpieces on the viability of stillsuits or what it would take to build something with the same functionality. Most people run into theoretical problems right away in the design stage, although it would be interesting to see what some of these rich maker kid youtubers with CNC machines in their garages could come up with if they just started prototyping immediately. The technology required to reclaim body water is actually basically hitting Fremen levels already, only not on earth. Astronauts reclaim ~90% of their urine and sweat water in space, the catch is that it goes through a huge set of filters that's like the size of a few fridges. There's just no way to miniaturize the technology and also have it run from only body movements currently.  One of those big tanks is called the Urine Processor Assembly. I never thought about it but I bet the stillsuits have all sorts of part name too. They just call them thigh pads but the guys who are stitching the things together know all about the Dookie Dehydration Chambers.
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Nov 5, 2021 18:14
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Jewmanji posted:So is there a reason why the Baron calls Leto his cousin the movie? Are they using it in a non-literal sense? Just seems weird to include given that readers know Leto is literally Shaddam’s cousin. They’re cousins in the sense of being nobility (thus are all kind of part of the same inbred mega-family) and they’re supposed to refer to one another as “cher cousin”. The Baron in the book calls him this, too, but Leto never returns the courtesy.
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Nov 5, 2021 18:17
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Frank was big into doing shrooms so get some of those. take out some bloomin onions from Outback, call it "the Dream Unfolds." uber_stoat fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 5, 2021 |
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Nov 5, 2021 18:25
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The biofilm in a used still suit must be unholy
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Nov 5, 2021 18:35
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euphronius posted:The biofilm in a used still suit must be unholy number 2 and 3 imports into Arrakis after coffee are bleach and white vinegar.
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Nov 5, 2021 18:38
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skasion posted:They’re cousins in the sense of being nobility (thus are all kind of part of the same inbred mega-family) and they’re supposed to refer to one another as “cher cousin”. The Baron in the book calls him this, too, but Leto never returns the courtesy. Ah interesting I didn’t remember that in the book. Still, I find it strange that they’d choose to leave that in, but not address Jessica’s parentage. Feels like it raises questions unintentionally.
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Nov 5, 2021 19:35
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uber_stoat posted:number 2 and 3 imports into Arrakis after coffee are bleach and white vinegar. They sandblast everything. Have you ever seen paper in a sietch? They sandblast everything
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Nov 5, 2021 19:49
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Is sandblasting a fremen sex thing?
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Nov 5, 2021 19:54
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Omnicarus posted:Is sandblasting a fremen sex thing? What does your heartplug tell you?
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Nov 5, 2021 19:58
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beefswelling leads to sandblasting
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Nov 5, 2021 20:02
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Reread the Appendix and was shocked and delighted to read about how the Fremen created improvised stillsuits for their pack animals. Do it, Denis.
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Nov 5, 2021 20:23
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:No chance, mate, that's a misconception and does not track with the way serial fantasy publication was still being done in the 50s and 60s. Dune 1 itself is already 3 books long, and too many changes occurred in Frank's life and writing style over the course of next 11 years that it took him to write Messiah and Children for any of it to be so thoroughly articulated beforehand. He only had just started even getting recognition for his writing like half a decade after Dune 1, and while Messiah is a direct continuation and conclusion of the themes of Dune 1 it's absolutely written from a different frame of mind. Children is even more far removed from his original vantage, already encompassing 7 years of major life changes for the Herberts that directly influenced his writing style and themes, to the point that it coheres rather poorly with the original story. There is no way that there was some concrete master publishing plan for all of this poo poo in advance, and if Frank ever suggested as such then he was being either boastful or hyperbolic. BlankSystemDaemon posted:Also, since we're talking about intentions and such:
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Nov 5, 2021 20:23
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One thing that I'm really surprised they included in the film was the walking without rhythm. The scene where Paul is showing Jessica how to do it was almost comical, "do the same moves as me" I was sure was meant to get a laugh but it was earnest. The film probably could have done without that. Sardaukar introduction was dope as hell, the throat-singing guy was awesome and their captain (I can only assume that was Nefud) did a good job selling how intimidating and scary they were. I'm surprised they left out all exposition about the mentats, since that's also kind of a big part of Paul's training. The eye roll thing was very cool though, an excellent way to convey that these aren't normal thinking dudes. Soundtrack was incredible. Those big percussion rolls that almost sounded mechanically arrhythmic were in my dreams. I watched it with a couple of friends who aren't nearly on my level of fandom and one friend who didn't know anything about the books at all. Everyone loved it, which is a really good sign. Also, what the hell was with the weird voice right at the beginning, immediately before the WB and Legendary logo crawls? It said something like "dreams are doors to the other side" in an appropriately guttural and alien-sounding language.
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Nov 5, 2021 20:27
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Dreams are messages from the deep.
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Nov 5, 2021 20:29
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Mister Speaker posted:Also, what the hell was with the weird voice right at the beginning, immediately before the WB and Legendary logo crawls? It said something like "dreams are doors to the other side" in an appropriately guttural and alien-sounding language. It was a Sardaukar, according to the editor. Another question: Kynes says in the movie that there were terraforming efforts underway and then were abandoned long ago back when melange was first discovered. Was she just being evasive about the fact that she was still working on the ecological project? If we take her at her word it seems very strange that the movie would make it appear like those terraforming efforts are dormant. Then again, moments later Paul tells Kynes that he’s seen her dream and can make it happen, so maybe he’s seeing through her dissembling?
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Nov 5, 2021 20:31
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sebmojo posted:Dreams are messages from the deep. Oh poo poo Dune-The Boys crossover incoming! 
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Nov 5, 2021 20:31
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I think she was referring to imperial terraforming specifically
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Nov 5, 2021 20:32
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That's it, yeah thanks. Upon searching and re-listening it really does sound like the Sardaukar language but I wonder why that is... Upon hearing it in the theatre I thought "oh drat that's got to be a Navigator" but that wouldn't really make much sense either.
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Mister Speaker posted:That's it, yeah thanks. Upon searching and re-listening it really does sound like the Sardaukar language but I wonder why that is... Upon hearing it in the theatre I thought "oh drat that's got to be a Navigator" but that wouldn't really make much sense either. Well, doesn't the entire series end with Paul's grand daughter taking a Sardaukar concubine or something? Maybe its a non-temporal voice from the future?
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I'm thinking it's probably just 'the imperial language', not 'the Sardaukar language', even though the imperium aren't really the ones doing the 'prophecy' angle. Could be anyone then. Also could have just been an aesthetic choice since that language does sound cool as gently caress. Speaking of language, one thing I really liked was the fact that all written script was in some alien font or another. Yueh's message looked kinda like broken sanskrit, I think some of the holograms Paul learns with were in a different script, the short shots of OC Bibles we see, and even the Atreides gravestones had what looked like accented Greek letters on them. An excellent way to convey that these people and their society are so far removed from what we know. The Voice was done almost exactly as I anticipated but it was still cool as hell, especially the first times you hear it (Paul's first attempt and GHM commanding him to kneel). The last time it's used in the film, Paul telling Jessica to get off of him, was particularly impactful emotionally. Mister Speaker fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Nov 5, 2021 |
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Nov 5, 2021 20:43
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I like that the made the voice very performative rather than simple magic
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Nov 5, 2021 20:44
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also, there were bagpipes
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Nov 5, 2021 20:45
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It was actually a genetically modified dog screaming in pain
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DandyLion posted:Well, doesn't the entire series end with Paul's grand daughter taking a Sardaukar concubine or something? Maybe its a non-temporal voice from the future? As for vision-voices, there's two distinct ones near as I can figure: Chanis, and that of an old woman. The old womans voice could be the one that's at the very beginning of the movie. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Nov 5, 2021 |
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Nov 5, 2021 20:55
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And ghanima was never heard from again.
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euphronius posted:And ghanima was never heard from again.
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