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Exactly why you think, it validates several right-wing narratives merely by existing and being not great.
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And a show being mediocre is the perfect cover for bigots to mask their rear end in a top hat nature by couching transphobia and hatred between legitimate criticisms of production quality, writing and performances. Well that sucks.
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There was also a stink about it a couple years ago when it was revealed with a video that had the creators talking about the diversity involved.
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i think the diversity marketing was a pretty questionable decision but the criticism for it comes from two very different places lol
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I think most modern western animated shows start getting good only after the first season so even if it's mediocre it could get better. If they even try to make a second season.
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i suspect crunchyroll being bought by aniplex means no more of that stuff since they now have lots of actual anime "in house"
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Also despite this being one of their two wholly original and completely exclusive productions, the other being Onyx Equinox, they just kinda dumped HGS out and haven't been doing any real promotion of it whatsoever. Especially compared to how much promotion they did for Shield Hero, which found itself on the other side of that discourse dichotomy.
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well they don't promote the japan-made magical girl shows they pick up either
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Is it really magical girl, though? It looks more like DND + School drama anime.
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Arc Hammer posted:Is it really magical girl, though? It looks more like DND + School drama anime. little witch academia meets endro! minus everything that makes both interesting to watch.
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Arc Hammer posted:So has anyone actually watched High Guardian Spice on Crunchyroll? I made a Dune joke and that's about it. I tried looking up some youtube reviews but all I got was videos attacking the show creators, Crunchyroll for being a bad platform and heaps of transphobia. Just seems like the show is getting dogpiled by assholes and that's making it hard to find discussions that aren't tinged by terfs and bigots. I was one of the viewers. It's ok. The writing isn't good enough to keep my interest, but that's true for a lot of shows. There was a discussion on both here and the seasonal thread and, as was mentioned above, it's relatively mediocre but not terribly bad. The only wild thing about the show is Crunchyroll's severe content warning that doesn't appear on any other show.
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TBF there's legitimate criticism of the diversity angle too. Talking about how you're going to 'bring diversity to anime' and poo poo in an office with like one asian person and a bunch of white women is just lovely no matter how you look at it. It very much felt like something that existed to satisfy Crunchy's thin veneer of being progressive. And the trailer dropped at the same time people were criticizing how little money they actually brought into the anime industry and how poorly paid their translators were. Even if the show was good that poo poo would be bad. Like, if they wanted to make 'more diverse anime,' why not use their funding to help get anime made of manga and LNs and such with LGBT themes? They're clearly capable of doing that, and they even have at points, they were on Citrus's production committee. Iunno if an anime of Our Dreams at Dusk would be good, but it'd feel like a way more sincere enterprise than whatever High Guardian Spice is. Endorph fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Nov 6, 2021 |
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sb hermit posted:The only wild thing about the show is Crunchyroll's severe content warning that doesn't appear on any other show. They're clearly worried about chuds being triggered by the existence of the trans teacher or something, because it took like five or six episodes just to hear the word "poo poo". Never mind that there's light profanity in a bunch of anime targeting the teen market.
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Diverse Anime: New Black Lagoon Season
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Plutonis posted:Diverse Anime: New Black Lagoon Season This is what I've been saying. Wired Red Wild Card has been done for a few years, let's do another OVA.
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Plutonis posted:Diverse Anime: New Black Lagoon Season Black Lagoon kind of was already unintentionally diverse, given its cast. Japanese, Chinese, Thai, American, Irish, German, Russian, etc.
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Mister Facetious posted:Black Lagoon kind of was already unintentionally diverse, given its cast. Japanese, Chinese, Thai, American, Irish, German, Russian, etc. that is my intention yes
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Also i want to see Revy pegging Rock
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Mister Facetious posted:They're clearly worried about chuds being triggered by the existence of the trans teacher or something, because it took like five or six episodes just to hear the word "poo poo". i think new sincerity 'woke' types are just trained to put trigger warnings on literally everything. remember that blowup with boyfriend dungeon.
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Endorph posted:i dont think the warning is there for 'chuds' or something lol Never seen boyfriend dungeon.
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Mister Facetious posted:Black Lagoon kind of was already unintentionally diverse, given its cast. Japanese, Chinese, Thai, American, Irish, German, Russian, etc. Benny was Jewish, too! That's why his middle name is "gently caress Nazis".
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balalaika owns
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SmokaDustbowl posted:balalaika owns
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"Hey, Fry Face!"
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Wait a minute Prozd did a voice for HGS? That's cool, at least.
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Arc Hammer posted:Wait a minute Prozd did a voice for HGS? That's cool, at least. He's a big boy VA now. He was one of the leads in Borderlands 3 too.
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Mister Facetious posted:Never seen boyfriend dungeon. Its a game where people harassed a voice actor who voiced a villain for being emotionally abusive in story ( the villain in the game, not the voice actor) basically. That sounds like, a biased interpretation but it really isn't.
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Specifically Boyfriend Dungeon opened with a huge trigger warning for emotional distress and manipulative behavior and stuff and then the villain was emotionally manipulative and put you in a distressing situation once. People then raged out about how they 'weren't properly warned' and wanted an option to turn him off. You know. An option to turn off the main villain of the game. And then, yeah, harassed the character's VA. Ridiculous poo poo.
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Are children not taught the difference between portraying a thing and actually being a thing anymore? Did the entire concept of "playing pretend" die at some point?
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Mister Facetious posted:Are children not taught the difference between portraying a thing and actually being a thing anymore? Depiction is endorsement is, I'm afraid, a very commonly held opinion these days. And not just by stupid zoomer kids who don't know any better.
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There's a definitive rise in "purantism" in online fandom circles against shipping and pairing with a lot of kids that sort of grew up in Tumbler fandom. Though probably it's more people using it to stop any queer pairs or couple in fandoms than people not getting it's not real (Though there are some that do fall in that category)
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bear in mind we're also just in an environment where a very small slice of people can be hysterically loud. i doubt it was more than 5% of people who played that game boiling their piss (not counting anyone who didn't play it but just loves to boil their piss all the time)
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SatoshiMiwa posted:There's a definitive rise in "purantism" in online fandom circles against shipping and pairing with a lot of kids that sort of grew up in Tumbler fandom. Though probably it's more people using it to stop any queer pairs or couple in fandoms than people not getting it's not real (Though there are some that do fall in that category)
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The line between abuse for the sake of it and abuse to make an emotional story can be razor-thin. (people who attacked the VA are obviously idiots though) Someone (who should have known better) recommended Elfen Lied to me. I felt just terrible after finishing it. But it was probably one of the most emotionally heavy anime's I've ever seen, and Lucy was very relatable. But she was also incredibly cruel. Which seemed to be more for shock value than character building. It uses nudity to evoke vulnerability in a very efficient way. But I don't trust the show to not also do it for titillation.
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The thing is, that line is different for everyone. What's exploitative, sensationalist, or done for titillation's sake for one person can be incredibly powerful and raw for another person. If you accept the argument that art can have an impact on reality, then doesn't it also follow that trying to devalue or shield people from art they might find catharsis in is also a problem? Not accusing you of doing the latter, mind, those are totally valid reads of Elfen Lied, more just using your post as a jumping off point.
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after only 9 years I've finally beaten Tales of Graces F really good game, imo. I'll have to do NG+ at some point to see all the stuff I missed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Xvk8Q0Nk8
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here's my read of elfen lied: the first scene of the first episode with the clumsy ol is the only good part of the show
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I really liked Elfen Lied at 14, I dont expect I'd like it today.
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Mister Facetious posted:Are children not taught the difference between portraying a thing and actually being a thing anymore? I don't have the exact demographics on who was doing it but I do know that a bunch of people were harassing the poo poo out of Anna Gunn (Skyler White from Breaking Bad) and Jack Gleeson (Joffrey Baratheon; Game of Thrones) for playing characters so people are still melting their brains and assuming fake characters portrayed by actors are real people and need to be told to stop dissecting cats and torturing people.
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Also the Last of Us 2 thing, despite the voice actors being friends in real life.
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