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Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

MarcusSA posted:

Yo for $99 the Retroid Pocket 2+ seems like a clear winner.

What’s the catch?

big disadvantages are the wonky right joystick (basically a sliding d pad instead of a proper stick) that i don't know if they fixed in this version and lack of a single ui/launcher (all current options perform poorly, so you essentially have to pick apps out of android os). other than that i like my rp2 and i expect if the rp2+ is about the same, it'll be worth it.

also you have to tweak a bunch of stuff so if you're not into that you might have a bad time

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flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




I would pick up a rp2+ in a heartbeat if it weren't so darn ugly

Powkiddy's build quality sucks but at least they have style. Every retroid pocket just looks like they took the first prototype and pushed it into production. It looks like ben heck made it

roobots
Dec 4, 2006

You can only think of Halloween until you die.

MarcusSA posted:

Yo for $99 the Retroid Pocket 2+ seems like a clear winner.

What’s the catch?

If this new software is good it fixes what was one of the worst aspects of the system. It was absolutely terrible to set up and incredibly slow. My only concern now is that I still haven't used an Android based retro device yet that doesn't have input lag. It's minor and doesn't seem to effect everyone but it makes 2D platformers impossible for me to enjoy. If that is also fixed, then the RP2+ looks like it's gonna be the thing to beat until Anbernic releases a competitor. I'm kicking myself for giving my RP2 to a friend as I could've just gotten away with a PCB upgrade, but oh well.

Beffica
Apr 6, 2009

by Azathoth

roobots posted:

My only concern now is that I still haven't used an Android based retro device yet that doesn't have input lag. It's minor and doesn't seem to effect everyone but it makes 2D platformers impossible for me to enjoy.
This is why I still have my PSP. I'm hoping this beefier RP2+ allows for more options for run-ahead low latency mode in Retroarch.

zzMisc
Jun 26, 2002

roobots posted:

My only concern now is that I still haven't used an Android based retro device yet that doesn't have input lag. It's minor and doesn't seem to effect everyone

Oh IMO this is an absolutely huge deal. I'm not even a kaizo runner or anything but just playing regular platformers is just about intolerable on every android device I've tried (barring frame delay & run ahead), including the Shield. It's why I'm not even considering the RG552 or any other android-based handheld. Even if it can play more modern games, what's the point if I can't even get through Donkey Kong because I can't time my jumps right?

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
All of the new generation of more powerful handhelds are going to be Android based, it's inescapable

- Retroid Pocket 2+
- Anbernic RG552
- Miyoo P60
- Ayn Odin
- Powkiddy X18S

The only powerful handheld left running Linux will be the Steam Deck




Anyway here's some Fire Stick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvgTzIMTt78
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA7ULCxvSTo

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Nov 2, 2021

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



The United States posted:

All of the new generation of more powerful handhelds are going to be Android based, it's inescapable

Wait, if EmuElec can run on Android TV boxes, why couldn't it for any Android-based device?

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

A Pack of Kobolds posted:

Wait, if EmuElec can run on Android TV boxes, why couldn't it for any Android-based device?

It can.

The Retroid Pocket 2+ should be able to 2x PS1 titles no problem right?

roobots
Dec 4, 2006

You can only think of Halloween until you die.

The United States posted:

All of the new generation of more powerful handhelds are going to be Android based, it's inescapable

TBH this is what I'm afraid of. I'm hoping with more powerful chips frame delay and run ahead won't be as impactful to performance and will provide a suitable workaround. I tried using them on the RP2 and NES games were ok but SNES games dropped into unplayable frame rates. Even then, having to find the perfect settings to get rid of input lag on modern handheld devices seems like a hilarious problem to still exist so I hope newer Android handhelds address it some way.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

A Pack of Kobolds posted:

Wait, if EmuElec can run on Android TV boxes, why couldn't it for any Android-based device?
Will the bootloader even be unlocked?

If so, who is going to port it?

There's no Odroid Go Advance to kickstart the kind of support the venerable RK3326 received, so every company is going their own way with their own unique chipset and the market will be fragmented a dozen different ways.

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



The United States posted:

Will the bootloader even be unlocked?

If so, who is going to port it?

There's no Odroid Go Advance to kickstart the kind of support the venerable RK3326 received, so every company is going their own way with their own unique chipset and the market will be fragmented a dozen different ways.

idk man, but if you can install RetroArch on an Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K Max, knowing that Amazon most definitely didn't design it for that purpose, I have hope for Chinese retro gaming device manufacturers and the nerds who develop custom firmware for them.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSkOaGBKSgk




A Pack of Kobolds posted:

idk man, but if you can install RetroArch on an Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K Max, knowing that Amazon most definitely didn't design it for that purpose, I have hope for Chinese retro gaming device manufacturers and the nerds who develop custom firmware for them.
Right, you can install Retroarch on the Fire Stick because it's just an android app and the Fire Stick runs android (helps that Amazon added it to their proprietary app store). You can absolutely run Retroarch on any of these upcoming Android handhelds too and I guarantee you that they will have it already installed as well. But what you can't do on the Fire Stick is boot into some other version of Linux.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
Having gotten my Anbernic and ArkOS installed, I am now working on trying to get Amiga games running. Apparently I need to rename a bunch of kickstart roms to run the bios properly, and set up a bunch of hotkeys to get a smooth experience?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Depends if you're using PUAE or Amiberry I think. I dunno about hotkeys, or ArkOS specifically though. All I can say is (on 351elec) I dropped the standard kickstart ROMs into bios/ and was immediately able to boot a HDF of the very garbage Amiga port of Altered Beast, controls were bound for a joystick and everything was hunky dory.

I imagine Russ at Retrogamecore has a guide for it at this point.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
Went to fiddle with my RP2 after letting it sit a couple months and it won’t turn on or charge when plugged in.

Welp.

Edit: apparently mine is just extremely picky about charging bricks and cables.

Edit: apparently it’s broken. What a roller coaster.

Rolo fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Nov 4, 2021

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
Sorry about the earlier one, this one is the REAL build-your-own Trimui

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zu3pjvdSHI

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

The United States posted:

Sorry about the earlier one, this one is the REAL build-your-own Trimui

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zu3pjvdSHI

That is pretty cool.

A bit pricy but would be a neat gift for a kid who is interested in this kinda thing.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




Rolo posted:

Went to fiddle with my RP2 after letting it sit a couple months and it won’t turn on or charge when plugged in.

Welp.

Edit: apparently mine is just extremely picky about charging bricks and cables.

Edit: apparently it’s broken. What a roller coaster.

Sounds like a perfect candidate for the board upgrade

The United States posted:

Sorry about the earlier one, this one is the REAL build-your-own Trimui

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zu3pjvdSHI

"I can even ssh into it to control the software! No iphone or switch does that!"

Maybe yours doesn't

flavor.flv fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Nov 5, 2021

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

flavor.flv posted:

Sounds like a perfect candidate for the board upgrade

Looking that way. Gonna try to get a fresh battery too.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

flavor.flv posted:

"I can even ssh into it to control the software! No iphone or switch does that!"


Wha.. SSH access on rooted iPhones was a huge deal for the longest time! Hell people got their phones broken into because they left the SSH details as default

GoodApollo
Jul 9, 2005

Rolo posted:

Went to fiddle with my RP2 after letting it sit a couple months and it won’t turn on or charge when plugged in.

Welp.

Edit: apparently mine is just extremely picky about charging bricks and cables.

Edit: apparently it’s broken. What a roller coaster.

It gets a little broken when the battery is completely drained. Try leaving it charging over night.

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

The United States posted:

Sorry about the earlier one, this one is the REAL build-your-own Trimui

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zu3pjvdSHI
Wow, that looked like a nightmare to build. Then again, I don’t have any experience with soldering or troubleshooting Linux.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

GoodApollo posted:

It gets a little broken when the battery is completely drained. Try leaving it charging over night.

Yeah I figured it out. I tried every USB source I have but the only thing that would take it out of zero was my Anker battery's "smart charging" port. Everything else put it into a charging-boot-loop.

I got the thing back up and running with an old mSD card and, after tinkering with it for awhile, reached over to my RG351V with 351elec and a battery mod and popped right in from sleep mode. Anbernic really nailed these devices and now I'm thinking about getting a green 351MP. Why? I don't know!

JazzFlight posted:

Wow, that looked like a nightmare to build. Then again, I don’t have any experience with soldering or troubleshooting Linux.

I have a little of both and that looks pretty :stare: to me.

EDIT: Just spent some time updating the OP. Marcus, if you don't mind I'd love to hear what windows device you're currently playing with and your impressions (I think it was you posting about them). Still to be added to the OP: The RG280V (Russ really likes it), the Analogue and maybe left-field poo poo like the Playdate even though it's only pretend-hipster-retro. I'll add them when I get time later this weekend.

Rolo fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Nov 5, 2021

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



The United States posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSkOaGBKSgk

Right, you can install Retroarch on the Fire Stick because it's just an android app and the Fire Stick runs android (helps that Amazon added it to their proprietary app store). You can absolutely run Retroarch on any of these upcoming Android handhelds too and I guarantee you that they will have it already installed as well. But what you can't do on the Fire Stick is boot into some other version of Linux.

I appreciate the explanation! I am dumb as gently caress so this is really helpful.

Tewdrig
Dec 6, 2005

It's good to be the king.

SubG posted:

Vita stuff

Thanks for all this. I ended up buying a Vita-2000 for $100, which it bought was a great deal, and I’m very happy with it so far. Got all the plugins and emulators and whatnot installed, and even successfully booted into two games! Screen looks great and the speakers are also really good, but that may be because I just got done playing a Game Boy Color game on the 3DS, which sounded just awful.

However, playing games less important than the tinkering and fiddling. Still need to pick up the SD2Vita adapter.

LODGE NORTH
Jul 30, 2007



The weirdest part is the difference in quality. Not that it's unexpected -- the M line is Anbernic's premium, but the Lite is Nintendo's cheaper option. Thought the overall similarities in style were interesting enough to just buy a Switch Lite though.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
The Last of the RK3326 are the RG351MP and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDibM4rv1A4

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Nov 6, 2021

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Evercade, the retro handheld from last year that used carts for it's games has a console version coming out soon;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rDx3nH2z0

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
A lot of the things about the Evercade that made no sense before (the widescreen primarily) make a lot more sense upon learning that they were always planning on consolizing it. Also that it has ports of modern retro-themed indie games now, which are widescreen native.

Also as I understand it they have button mapping now which enables you to fix some of their bad button assignments, but it's neither per game nor per system, so still not great.

XY AB is still an abomination.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Lmao at it being incompatible with a couple of the carts.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

Lmao at it being incompatible with a couple of the carts.

Apparently for licensing reasons as when they did the license for the Namco games it was for "handhelds" only, supposedly they're working on renegotiating that, which if successful will probably result in them doing a patch to allow for the Namco carts to work

The United States posted:

A lot of the things about the Evercade that made no sense before (the widescreen primarily) make a lot more sense upon learning that they were always planning on consolizing it. Also that it has ports of modern retro-themed indie games now, which are widescreen native.

Also as I understand it they have button mapping now which enables you to fix some of their bad button assignments, but it's neither per game nor per system, so still not great.

XY AB is still an abomination.

The pricing also makes more sense for a console vs the handheld version(which always felt a good 30 to 40 dollars too expensive)

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

The United States posted:

The Last of the RK3326 are the RG351MP and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDibM4rv1A4

It seems like the RP2+ is a much better value

Sailor Goon
Feb 21, 2012



this is a choice

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Humongous Pear posted:



this is a choice

Cheap looking. Over priced. Under powered.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Humongous Pear posted:



this is a choice

Sold

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
I still don’t get why you’d buy a widescreen RK3326.

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



MarcusSA posted:

Cheap looking. Over priced. Under powered.

Yeah man Pornhub went way downhill

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
Trying out the Anbernic for a bit more and noticing some of the sound is garbled or tinny at times. I'm not sure if its an emulator issue or a sound chip one though. Anyone else had a similar problem? I'm running ArkOS and Retroarch and I've mostly tried out SNES and GBA games so far.

sethsez
Jul 14, 2006

He's soooo dreamy...

evilmiera posted:

Trying out the Anbernic for a bit more and noticing some of the sound is garbled or tinny at times. I'm not sure if its an emulator issue or a sound chip one though. Anyone else had a similar problem? I'm running ArkOS and Retroarch and I've mostly tried out SNES and GBA games so far.

What cores are you using? Some are better than others (snes9x-2005 has really bad sound, for example).

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evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

sethsez posted:

What cores are you using? Some are better than others (snes9x-2005 has really bad sound, for example).

Yeah, its only got the SNES9X and 2010 ones. I'll see if adding a few ones helps there. But I was noticing some issues on the GBA one as well, where it was just set to auto. I'll see about fiddling with that as well, though.

Edit: I THINK switching up the emulator cores did something positive at least. But its still just a SNES9x variant, so, any others you'd recommend for an anbernic specifically ?

evilmiera fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Nov 6, 2021

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