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Brandfarlig posted:That's what I understood your post as...because it's how language works. But feel free to be a tedious bastard about a minor misunderstanding. Ok.
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TheHan posted:It feels like making Shigaraki an unkillable hamburger man is less compelling than Deku just choosing not to kill him. Nobody’s expecting Shigaraki to win in the end so the real tension’s been coming from wondering how Deku can save a guy who acts like he doesn’t want to be saved and poses a real active threat to the world. Punching him to death is how Deku loses, so taking punching him to death off the table isn’t as fun. Like one of the obvious scenes you can do is where Tenko is saved, and you get to watch AFO get ripped out of him in the weird psychic world the OFA ghosts/Shigaraki+AFO inhabit. The ultimate defeat for AFO is humiliating him by destroying his project through human connection and not raw power- ultimately proving his brother was right. He has already been defeated messily in a punchup before, when All Might literally punched his torso off- so I feel like AFO getting kamehameha'd to death or whatever doesn't work.
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AFO should get destroyed by the vestiges of everyone whose Quirk he stole. Or something like that.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:AFO should get destroyed by the vestiges of everyone whose Quirk he stole. Or something like that. Can't believe Knuckleduster is going to join the main series just to deliver the final blow.
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All for One wins but then returns One for All because he's become so used to having a nemesis that it just isn't fun anymore if no one can stand up to him.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Can't believe Knuckleduster is going to join the main series just to deliver the final blow. hell yeah!
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christmas boots posted:All for One wins but then returns One for All because he's become so used to having a nemesis that it just isn't fun anymore if no one can stand up to him. I also liked Aku in the last season of Samurai Jack
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but for real if he manages to steal her quirk, isn't afo/shigaraki functionally like, capable of destroying entire nations himself? he was there or thereabouts literally incomplete, now his body is close to "perfected" or whatever AND he'll have a reality bending quirk seemingly only limited by the user's belief in their own capabilities? why wouldn't he jsut instantly walk all over the school and just obliterate deku, nobody could realistically stop him at that point
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TheHan posted:It feels like making Shigaraki an unkillable hamburger man is less compelling than Deku just choosing not to kill him. Nobody’s expecting Shigaraki to win in the end so the real tension’s been coming from wondering how Deku can save a guy who acts like he doesn’t want to be saved and poses a real active threat to the world. Punching him to death is how Deku loses, so taking punching him to death off the table isn’t as fun. Yeah, this is what gets me. The thing that's supposed to make Deku so exceptional is that he tries to save everyone, no matter what. For Deku to look at the horrible gibbering nightmare monster that Shigaraki has become and still decide to try to save him despite all of the horrific things he's done is a much stronger beat if it's unforced and it's something Deku decides to do because he's Deku. It's a lot weaker if saving Shigaraki is something that Deku does because it's been established that fighting Shigaraki is a totally hopeless waste of time because Shigaraki is totally invincible to everything forever because super regeneration is apparently the most powerful quirk in the universe.
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tbp posted:but for real if he manages to steal her quirk, isn't afo/shigaraki functionally like, capable of destroying entire nations himself? he was there or thereabouts literally incomplete, now his body is close to "perfected" or whatever AND he'll have a reality bending quirk seemingly only limited by the user's belief in their own capabilities? why wouldn't he jsut instantly walk all over the school and just obliterate deku, nobody could realistically stop him at that point Thankfully almost every country is preserved by being named something different in another language, whew. (I guess that didn't work for air/lasers/missiles etc. but I'm just having some fun.)
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Honestly I think the biggest thing I've realized is that I just don't care. Not like "I hate it" or anything just... I've kinda lost interest. Bakugo's apology basically was the last plot beat I really felt was genuinely earned and satisfying.
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SgtSteel91 posted:So I just had a thought about the latest chapter Yeah if he can’t impose rules on himself it won’t really be that strong. I mean he can impose rules on people he touches but he already wins if he touches you so
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:AFO should get destroyed by the vestiges of everyone whose Quirk he stole. Or something like that. 
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ImpAtom posted:Honestly I think the biggest thing I've realized is that I just don't care. Not like "I hate it" or anything just... I've kinda lost interest. Bakugo's apology basically was the last plot beat I really felt was genuinely earned and satisfying. Yeah, I'm sort of at a point where I can't imagine the resolution between One for All and All for One being at all satisfying, but at least it'll probably be nice to look at.
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SpacePig posted:Yeah, I'm sort of at a point where I can't imagine the resolution between One for All and All for One being at all satisfying, but at least it'll probably be nice to look at. Definitely. Despite being down on the last couple of arcs, I can't deny that they've been visually amazing.
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RatHat posted:Yeah if he can’t impose rules on himself it won’t really be that strong. I mean he can impose rules on people he touches but he already wins if he touches you so I don't really get the point in giving Shigaraki this quirk then, from a narrative standpoint. He's already written as having a bunch of quirks stored that he hasn't used yet and can basically pull any ability he needs out of his rear end that the plot requires, I don't see what adding a Quirk that does that specifically accomplishes.
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Maybe if AfO had more limits in quirk usage and the big oh poo poo from this would be letting him make a rule to break those limits or something but as is AfO is already such a munchkin power it seems pointless.
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Well yeah we know he won't get it but at the same time it probably doesn't even matter so this is just showing outside intervention is useless for dealing with him.
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Super Shigaraki is already physically invincible, can instantly and irrevocably kill anyone he can directly touch or who is physically in contact something he can touch, can instantly and permanently steal any quirk but AfO on touch if he doesn't want to kill you, and can manifest tentacles to attack people at range. That's before you get into the rolodex of stolen quirks AfO has. Yeah not really sure we're meaningfully increasing his power here since he's already a walking god.
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Shigaraki also stole ragdoll’s search quirk and should have known S&S’s weakness instantly
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Maybe new order has a sort of built in rule that states that the user cannot be stronger than all might or something because that's what S&S believes.
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skipmyseashells posted:Shigaraki also stole ragdoll’s search quirk and should have known S&S’s weakness instantly
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I still think this is a roundabout solution to the issue of Shigaraki being too powerful. We just had the heroes panicking because he's going to be ready sooner than they thought and they're not confident he can be stopped. Villains who already have victory secured, but then take an extra step that ultimately ends up backfiring and becoming their undoing is a fairly common story beat so I think that might be what ends up happening with this quirk.
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Personally I think this is also Horikoshi overcompensating for the lovely nerds who say things like why doesn’t x hero just kill y villain by making the villain actually unkillable. Why doesn’t Batman just kill the Joker etc.
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I also genuinely feel like this, like a lot of the other story beats, would feel a lot less crappy if it had any buildup whatsoever. Even if S&S showed up for like a last minute save during the big war arc or something at least you'd have her established as a character.
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SpazmasterX posted:Aizen pulled less nonsense out of thin air. let's not get too crazy shigaraki's just another anime badguy who tanks everything that everyone throws at him because he can't go down before a confrontation with the plot-mandated Chosen One, he's still nowhere near the level of contrivance aizen threw out now if midoriya still can't beat him then we can start making comparisons to madara uchiha
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Oxxidation posted:let's not get too crazy ugh all uchihas are clowns
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there's still a small chance captain america didn't get introduced solely to job but it's not looking good
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Official translation https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/my-hero-academia-chapter-332/chapter/23518?action=read https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1010474
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hiddenriverninja posted:ugh all uchihas are clowns Found Tobirama's account
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Power thieves/copiers are the worst and laziest villains.
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SpazmasterX posted:Aizen pulled less nonsense out of thin air. Aizen was the better troll imo
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christmas boots posted:Aizen was the better troll imo It's hard to top tricking everyone into stabbing their friend tbh.
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hiddenriverninja posted:ugh all uchihas are clowns Second Hokagishly: The Uchiha brain pan makes them perfect cops but that also means they cannot fully feel love and thus are naturally untrustworthy
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Forbidden technique: Calipers no Jutsu
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