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Supernatural is hilarious because of that one character finally ending the gay baiting by telling the other one he loved him then immediately being sent to super ultra hell
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That happened literally a year and two days ago, lol
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Nov 8, 2021 06:48
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Waffleman_ posted:That happened literally a year and two days ago, lol people say that time has been slowed to a crawl these last few years but this sentence made it feel like time jumped forward at an alarming rate
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Nov 8, 2021 07:04
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Heliotrope posted:So does anyone actually write the fanfics the posters there want, or is it just fans screaming about their kinks into a void? I have no idea if kink-meme culture is still alive, but back when it was big, a lot of these would get responses, often very long ones. (Like the recording mentions, this was the birth of omegaverse!) I'm not sure what fraction of those fics were people really working out kinks, and which ones were just people writing something loving weird for ha-has, but it turns out that anonymous smut requests will get you anonymous smut responses.
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Nov 8, 2021 08:49
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Antivehicular posted:I have no idea if kink-meme culture is still alive, but back when it was big, a lot of these would get responses, often very long ones. (Like the recording mentions, this was the birth of omegaverse!) I'm not sure what fraction of those fics were people really working out kinks, and which ones were just people writing something loving weird for ha-has, but it turns out that anonymous smut requests will get you anonymous smut responses. Wait, was that post legitimately the origins of the Omegaverse? I thought Dijon was just making a joke (and the poster was explaining it in such detail because they didn't expect other people to know what Omegaverse was).
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Nov 8, 2021 14:59
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LanceHunter posted:Wait, was that post legitimately the origins of the Omegaverse? I thought Dijon was just making a joke (and the poster was explaining it in such detail because they didn't expect other people to know what Omegaverse was). I don't know if it was the literal birth of it but yes the supernatural fanfic community was major in 'mainstreaming' (as far as fanfic tropes can be mainstream) omegaverse stuff, there was a very long period where 'oh also it's omegaverse' was almost unsaid and assumed in supernatural fics, like even if it wasn't overtly in that universe people would slip terms in just because it was massively associated with the characters.
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Nov 8, 2021 17:29
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LanceHunter posted:Wait, was that post legitimately the origins of the Omegaverse? I thought Dijon was just making a joke (and the poster was explaining it in such detail because they didn't expect other people to know what Omegaverse was). It is 100% not a joke. The SPN weird-porn scene was so culturally dominant in fandom that this poo poo launched the whole genre.
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Nov 8, 2021 22:59
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yea people who were in it and grew up will make jokes about it being an absolute alternate reality even compared to other fandom bullshit but those aren't really jokes. Like, even in the 'Super-Who-Lock' triad I think Supernatural was way beyond the other two, Who will always have weird fans and tons of people wanted Tennant to raw dog them but it was very normie for a fandom and Sherlock was a freakshow but it was always pretty niche. Supernatural fans were goddamn locusts flying across ANY kind of platform. Tumblr was the core hive for sure but you'd find people in poo poo like Gaia Online roleplaying their Supernatural fanfic version of the actor who played Sam and that was just like an assumed thing. It's almost impressive considering how much of a wet fart the show grew into. Like, you need to understand people were spending 16 seasons absolutely getting wet and wild for two really generic broody white guys in a show that rapidly evolved from fun monster of the week bullshit to weird cosmic theology porn.
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Nov 9, 2021 04:10
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Yeah, I feel like Supernatural fandom vindicates my long-held theory that fanfic writers don't really want to write about high-quality media, because that's already polished and complete; they want stuff that's mediocre-to-okay, with lots of gaps where fanfic can slide in, especially with a lot of superficially appealing but shallow characters to play with. "Two blandly attractive white guys have dumb entertaining monster fights, then the plot gets real convoluted and stupid, plus some more blandly attractive white guys show up" is the perfect storm. (See also: the MCU)
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Nov 9, 2021 04:25
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sexpig by night posted:yea people who were in it and grew up will make jokes about it being an absolute alternate reality even compared to other fandom bullshit but those aren't really jokes. Like, even in the 'Super-Who-Lock' triad I think Supernatural was way beyond the other two, Who will always have weird fans and tons of people wanted Tennant to raw dog them but it was very normie for a fandom and Sherlock was a freakshow but it was always pretty niche. Supernatural fans were goddamn locusts flying across ANY kind of platform. Tumblr was the core hive for sure but you'd find people in poo poo like Gaia Online roleplaying their Supernatural fanfic version of the actor who played Sam and that was just like an assumed thing. The Doctor Who and Sherlock Holmes fandoms both predate the internet by several decades. The Supernatural fandom is uniquely an internet-based phenomenon which is I think why it got so, so weird so quickly.
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Nov 9, 2021 04:41
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The Whovians and Sherlockians relevant to this discussion were specifically fans of the Steven Moffat versions of those properties and were equally Internet-based.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:The Whovians and Sherlockians relevant to this discussion were specifically fans of the Steven Moffat versions of those properties and were equally Internet-based. Yeah. I think that it wasn't as much that the Supernatural fandom was more online, I think it was that the CW was willing to fan the flames of the worst parts of the internet fandom in a way that the BBC never was.
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Nov 9, 2021 05:54
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I mean, hell, Sherlock had multiple episodes that basically explicitly told people "Ew, you actually ship Sherlock and Watson? That's gross, stop it."
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Nov 9, 2021 05:55
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But also several episodes where they tease Sherlock/John, because Steven Moffat is a hack who wants it both ways.
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Nov 9, 2021 05:59
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Antivehicular posted:Yeah, I feel like Supernatural fandom vindicates my long-held theory that fanfic writers don't really want to write about high-quality media, because that's already polished and complete; they want stuff that's mediocre-to-okay, with lots of gaps where fanfic can slide in, especially with a lot of superficially appealing but shallow characters to play with. "Two blandly attractive white guys have dumb entertaining monster fights, then the plot gets real convoluted and stupid, plus some more blandly attractive white guys show up" is the perfect storm. (See also: the MCU) The original series Star Trek episodes frequently suck, but they suck in such obvious ways that imagining a fix for them is almost trivial. On top of that, it's very easy to write the TOS cast because their characters don't change, they're just archetypes stuck into a new situation each week. So I'm not surprised at all that it was the Star Trek fandom that kicked off both the modern "fan" scene and fanfic in specific. I started angrily writing up how one particularly broken episodes should have gone, then stopped and thought to myself "wait, I'm not into fanfic, how did I get tricked into writing fanfic?"
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Nov 9, 2021 07:06
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instead you should ship him with *checks notes* sherlock's sister?
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Nov 9, 2021 07:11
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Djeser posted:The original series Star Trek episodes frequently suck, but they suck in such obvious ways that imagining a fix for them is almost trivial. On top of that, it's very easy to write the TOS cast because their characters don't change, they're just archetypes stuck into a new situation each week. So I'm not surprised at all that it was the Star Trek fandom that kicked off both the modern "fan" scene and fanfic in specific. making fplus docs is doing fanfic but for the internet. i'm sorry, it's not curable
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Nov 9, 2021 07:12
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Wrapping Yahoo Answers completely in clingfilm
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Nov 9, 2021 07:24
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tokin opposition posted:making fplus docs is doing fanfic but for the internet. i'm sorry, it's not curable Assigning ABO ranks to TVTropes pages.
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Nov 9, 2021 07:26
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DozerStarfleet.
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Sending the Doctor to the Creepy Zoo.
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Holodeck Malfunctioned and now Morriaty has broken my tibia, fibula, femur, humerus, and pelvis.
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Nov 9, 2021 09:59
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tokin opposition posted:instead you should ship him with *checks notes* sherlock's sister? You mean his brother, surely.
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Nov 9, 2021 13:22
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I lost steam on a star trek doc trimming the second part of a story that had some great lines and a lot of stuff in between that needed trimming. But thankfully this is a personal motivation problem and not a "this hurts to read" problem.
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Nov 9, 2021 15:43
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Kitfox88 posted:You mean his brother, surely. I'm sure that happened too, but no. In some later season Sherlock's sister was introduced* as a character. She was evil and ~craaazy~ and the reason her existence didn't come up before was because Sherlock had mentally replaced her with a dog. *I know this from the excellent Hbomberguy video on why the Moffat Sherlock series sucked
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Nov 9, 2021 16:25
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That's not quite right, because that's too simple for a Moffat plot. Sherlock forgot his sister existed at all. There was. however. another, different person he forgot about but remembered as a dog for some reason that mercifully it seems will never be followed up on.
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Nov 9, 2021 16:30
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The secret good fourth episode is coming any day now.
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Nov 9, 2021 16:56
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Lotus Aura posted:That's not quite right, because that's too simple for a Moffat plot. Sherlock forgot his sister existed at all. God I am so glad I stopped watching after the 2nd season finale.
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Nov 9, 2021 16:58
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If you have some time there's a youtuber who, like some of us, is an online shame beast who survived these fandoms and loves to break down how insane they got. She did one for Supernatural too, focusing on the Dean/Castiel ship (the major ship that WASN'T the brothers loving so...yay for that at least?) but her Sherlock breakdown really goes in detail how the writers wanted to have their cake and eat it too with dancing between 'maybe they're gay' and 'ew you think they're gay, are you a loving sad loser piece of poo poo moron, I bet you are!' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZBP_0UTh5Q
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Nov 10, 2021 03:22
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Don't forget when the Sherlock fandom got mad at a completely unrelated show based on the public domain character of Sherlock Holmes that made Watson a woman, because that was somehow going to invalidate their ship.
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Nov 10, 2021 03:32
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ironically Elementary kinda owned because A) it was a more direct 'we're just doing mysteries, okay? It's an actiony mystery show' and even when it got metaplot-y the metaplot was fairly contained and straightforward despite being a Sherlock story, and B) managed to genuinely avoid hooking up Holmes and Watson despite Watson now being a woman and that ship finally being network palatable.
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Nov 10, 2021 03:35
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Plus Watson in that show loving ruled
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Nov 10, 2021 11:06
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Anyone else find Something Awful Forums through The F Plus? Lurked on here for a little off and on and finally made an account today. First listened in 2017/2018ish, submitted now 21 documents, and didn't even realize the origin of The F Plus came from this until earlier this year.
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Nov 12, 2021 06:18
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thelizzerd posted:Anyone else find Something Awful Forums through The F Plus? Lurked on here for a little off and on and finally made an account today. First listened in 2017/2018ish, submitted now 21 documents, and didn't even realize the origin of The F Plus came from this until earlier this year. It's even earlier than that, most of the Ridiculists came from Portal of Evil.
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Nov 12, 2021 06:47
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I heard of portal of evil from the podcast too, but I always correlated portal of evil with something awful. Guess I was wrong in that one!
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from what i understand fplus (computer boomers) used portal of evil, and extra credit (computer millennials) used SA, with overlap on both podcasts. Presumably there's a 4chan zoomer internet safari program, or will be one soon.
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Nov 12, 2021 08:26
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the f plus has always had way more genx energy than boomer, even though i think you mean that they're boomers relative to the rest of the internet population, not actual boomers
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Nov 12, 2021 10:04
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Nah, the zoomer podcast would probably be started on TikTok or Reddit. Fourchan gives too much of millennial vibes. Sometimes I wonder if I'm one of the youngest people who listen to the f plus because I tried to get my friends into it and none of them were interested.
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thelizzerd posted:Nah, the zoomer podcast would probably be started on TikTok or Reddit. Fourchan gives too much of millennial vibes. Sometimes I wonder if I'm one of the youngest people who listen to the f plus because I tried to get my friends into it and none of them were interested. I don't know if a Zoomer version would take podcast form. It seems like youtube drama explainer channels (stuff like Swell Entertainment) are the preferred method by which the kids inject internet tragedy today.
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Now that I'm thinking about it more, Gen Z reading awful things would come from Discord. It seems like every forum, community, and idea has a discord. Leading to a decrease of users making posts and an increase of communities that are more focused on Discord than on whatever website they originated from. My friends from growing up and I even have a channel in our discord for awful internet things. Which is why I'm still annoyed I couldn't get them into The F Plus.
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