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itry posted:There was plenty of story on the pc space. I was a console gamer. Also Goldeneye invented the FPS. And yeah yeah even other console games had light sprinklings of stories and lore, but pound for pound if you wanted to read a bunch of character dialog on your SNES you were grabbing a JRPG by far.
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More like PR (Poop Reality)
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Mescal posted:one time i met a guy who was very enthusiastic about VR, he owned a business renting the things out. he said VR is amazing because there's porn games, and in the games YOU CAN BE A GIRL. you can be a girl and have sex as a girl in the game. and i said "do you want to be a girl?" and he said "hell yeah buddy, i would fuckin love to be a girl. that would be rad as poo poo" and i said "so you're transgender." and he said "oh no way, being transgender sucks. i don't want to be trans. i just want to be a girl." "So if there's a magic pill you could take that would turn you into a girl, would you take it?" "Oh absolutely." i said "I think that's called being transgender." he was like "nahhh" jesus
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Nov 8, 2021 20:40
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Nice Van My Man posted:I was a console gamer. Also Goldeneye invented the FPS. New thread subtitle
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:I borrowed a VR headset from my uni library for a weekend and tooled around in some of the free VR games on steam but it didn't really grab me. RenegadeStyle1 posted:I don't think I could ever be down for VR. I don't want to play a game that takes all my senses. Well, I can't weigh in on what VR games and tech are like, because I've never played any, because I'd have to use the library's setup to do so, and I sure don't want to have my vision and hearing cut off from my surroundings in a room filled with strangers potentially watching me as I flail around and pretend to shoot things only I can see. That literally sounds like a nightmare. And if kids these days feel the same way, they're fine and normal and good.  But VR doesn't appeal to me anyway, because "immersion" has never been a thing for me. I never feel, nor want to feel, like I myself am in the game's world doing all this poo poo. Why would I even be there? I'm out of shape and have bad knees -- if you're relying on me to save the world, we should just throw in the towel now.
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itry posted:There was plenty of story on the pc space. Pc rpgs were always so grungy and depressing looking though, I think this was a big turn off for a lot of people. Maybe I was looking in the wrong places but I feel like almost every pc rpg through the 80s and 90s took place in the dirtiest grey and brown fantasy setting possible and really lacked a presentational wow factor that console JRPGs had Nice Van My Man posted:I was a console gamer. Also Goldeneye invented the FPS. lol but tbh I feel like the above applies. quake fans get real riled up when people say they like Goldeneye, but its one color palette and two animations really made it feel like it was missing something compared to its 2.5 predecessors or the overall presentation Goldeneye/Perfect Dark put together pretty soft girl fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nice Van My Man posted:I was a console gamer. Also Goldeneye invented the FPS. Seconded for new thread title. I also wholeheartedly believe it too since even though I had access to a PC sometimes I had access to a N64 all the time. I would also be scared to learn how many hours I put into that loving game. I think in multiplayer I was only beat a handful of times out of hundreds if not thousands of matches. Screen looking for the win! I guess that's an opinion. Screen looking is not wrong and a viable way to play multiplayer games.
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pretty soft girl posted:Pc rpgs were always so grungy and depressing looking though, I think this was a big turn off for a lot of people. Maybe I was looking in the wrong places but I feel like almost every pc rpg through the 80s and 90s took place in the dirtiest grey and brown fantasy setting possible and really lacked a presentational wow factor that console JRPGs had That's probably true about the RPG's, but there were also a lot of point and clicks if you were looking for story.
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Nice Van My Man posted:I was a console gamer. Also Goldeneye invented the FPS. As a Half-Life fan, I will begrudgingly admit that Goldeneye was the first FPS with a story and 3d models. Also, Goldeneye's remote mines were the best weapon because you could toss them on the ceiling and no one would notice them because of how horizontal the gameplay was. I remember making friends rage quit from trapping hallways to their favorite weapons and blowing them up the second they stepped through.
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My middle school friends and I played so much goldeneye that we ended up playing License to Kill mode (one hit death) and proximity mines (which also had grenade launchers and the ‘rpg’ rapid fire gun) exclusively. We had one rule and that was No one was Oddjob which would make aiming harder since he was shorter than all the other characters. I then played years later with a guy at work who ‘played in college all the time bro I can’t lose.’ Only to learn the guy played as Oddjob and complained if he couldn’t be oddjob. He also never played on license to kill mode. I schooled him so hard I felt bad. Also Screenlooking wasn’t considered cheating It was cheap but not considered cheating when I was growing up.
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Nov 8, 2021 22:02
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The best game for starting physical fights was Road Rash.
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itry posted:That's probably true about the RPG's, but there were also a lot of point and clicks if you were looking for story. That's a good point. Also lot of those DOS RPGs had some cool stuff going on lore-wise but they are impenetrable by today's standards.
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kntfkr posted:The best game for starting physical fights was Road Rash. The best game for ending marriages is Mario Party.
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kntfkr posted:Dave the lighting guy Tell me more about this next generation of Pokémon
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Tetrabor posted:As a Half-Life fan, I will begrudgingly admit that Goldeneye was the first FPS with a story and 3d models. The best part about remote mines was that you could stick them to ammo boxes, and other players.
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pretty soft girl posted:aside from getting fresh air or socializing with friends in person The closest minigolf course to me is next to a highway. I get fresher air inside my house. Walkabout and Eleven also let me easily socialize with friends while in covid lockdown, which was nice SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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satanic splash-back posted:If you think using a mouse to move your view is even close to as cool as just moving your neck, you are boring and/or don't understand the appeal of VR to most people. Only in room-scale VR when you can fully turn around, though. If you're playing seated you still have to constantly fiddle with the recenter button or use a separate joystick to turn or something and it ends up feeling super janky and way less natural than using a mouse. Even if VR headsets were  at the corner store most people still wouldn't clear out a whole room to use them, so seated VR being good seems kinda important to it ever seeing mass adoption.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Only in room-scale VR when you can fully turn around, though. You can use an office chair and physically spin yourself around if you have a tetherless headset. This is generally how I play when seated.
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Meme Poker Party posted:*screen looks at you in a Starcraft 64 versus match* Starcraft 64 was my first exposure to Starcraft. I'm pretty sure I GameGenied the hell out of it but I did beat every mission. Going from that to the PC version blew my mind. I played a lot of Commander and Conquer 64 too. The GameGenie was better for that game since you could patch in units that were not buildable but in the game. Making armies of commandoes and chinook helicopters was a blast.
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limp_cheese posted:Starcraft 64 was my first exposure to Starcraft. I'm pretty sure I GameGenied the hell out of it but I did beat every mission. Going from that to the PC version blew my mind. Same but for battlezone 98
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Only in room-scale VR when you can fully turn around, though. I have no idea what you're talking about. Was this a thing on old headsets w/ no sensors or lighthouses or whatever to detect the position in the room? In some games I have to re-center the view when I enter the game to get it just right, but that's it, w/ a rift s
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Mescal posted:one time i met a guy who was very enthusiastic about VR, he owned a business renting the things out. he said VR is amazing because there's porn games, and in the games YOU CAN BE A GIRL. you can be a girl and have sex as a girl in the game. and i said "do you want to be a girl?" and he said "hell yeah buddy, i would fuckin love to be a girl. that would be rad as poo poo" and i said "so you're transgender." and he said "oh no way, being transgender sucks. i don't want to be trans. i just want to be a girl." "So if there's a magic pill you could take that would turn you into a girl, would you take it?" "Oh absolutely." i said "I think that's called being transgender." he was like "nahhh" lol I think I said exactly this before I came out to myself. On the VR topic it gives me instant migraines and nausea so I can't use it. It also doesn't seem that fun and everyone I know that jumped on bored and was super excited just sort of stopped after a little bit and never mentioned it again. When 3D TVs were becoming a thing I called it as a fad that would die within the year. Everyone insisted it was the new way of the future. I said 3D was a cyclical fad that pops up every decade or two. I was right.
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poverty goat posted:I have no idea what you're talking about. Was this a thing on old headsets w/ no sensors or lighthouses or whatever to detect the position in the room? In some games I have to re-center the view when I enter the game to get it just right, but that's it, w/ a rift s As in, I want to turn 180 degrees around to look at something behind me, but I'm in a chair, so I can't physically turn 180 degrees. So I need to turn 90 and then recenter and then turn 90 again. It's not about the game being off-center, it's about the 1-to-1 head-mapping to in-game-camera not working out if you don't have 360 degree motion irl
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Homie said basically "i've looked into it and turns out being trans sucks." and i was thinking Well it might be difficult but it might make you happy. I don't think i said that out loud though.
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Haha, they're at the "I've researched transitioning a bunch and it seems hard so I don't think I'm trans" stage. Classic. It is hard, and worth it  Also vidja games opinion: I don't understand why a lot (A LOT) of modern games force the "you always lose in the end" thing. Like you work hard and save the world but actually no, or something.
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Nothing makes me madder in FF7R than when I get the boss staggered then let my limit breaks rip only to trigger a cutscene for the next phase of the fight and the boss didn’t take any of the damage he should’ve. Utterly cowardly design
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syntaxfunction posted:Haha, they're at the "I've researched transitioning a bunch and it seems hard so I don't think I'm trans" stage. Classic. It is hard, and worth it i like the idea of you can do better for yourSELF but lmao if you think you're going to have a wider impact. so I have leveld up a lot and got a lot of gold but the world still got owned. so video games are realistic if you think very hard about them. i got a CRT TV from an old guy I know and hooked up my Dreamcast and PSX and I always thought the CRT thing was stupid but it makes a huge difference.
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giogadi posted:Nothing makes me madder in FF7R than when I get the boss staggered then let my limit breaks rip only to trigger a cutscene for the next phase of the fight and the boss didn’t take any of the damage he should’ve. Utterly cowardly design It's a bad game.
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know whats a good remaster? turok
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limp_cheese posted:Starcraft 64 was my first exposure to Starcraft. I'm pretty sure I GameGenied the hell out of it but I did beat every mission. Going from that to the PC version blew my mind. Starcraft 64 and Command and Conquer 64 were real "You were so busy thinking you could, you never thought whether you should!" games.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Dino crisis > Turok SMW2: Yoshi's Island > Dino Crisis > Turok
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Dino crisis > Turok it's not even comparable except for dinosaurs. and Turok really doesn't even have a lot of dinosaurs in it. Dino Crisis is like Resident Evil but with dinos. edit: above poster put it well edit2: except they're wrong because turok is one of the best games of all time but Yoshi's Island is also great but dino crisis is ok? edit3: turok > yoshis island > dino crisis
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Shadowman > Archer & Armstrong > Eternal Warrior > Turok
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The best VR games (eleven, walkabout) are about taking an existing real life experience that involves generally little movement but a lot of fine motor skills and converting into VR. Imo, it works great for this, and there's a bunch of other sports that would translate really well like golf, snooker, darts, air hockey, etc. Importantly, you don't need any suspension of disbelief with these types of games, you just start playing them and totally forget you're even in VR. You might think, just go play those things in real life idiot but a lot of the time that's not possible (where can you even play snooker anymore?). I'm interested to see what comes out of Meta, because I think moving VR away from pure gaming is really the most important step towards mass adoption. Nobody is going to play Alyx, even though it's objectively a great game, and think VR is the future when it's still so incredibly janky to move around
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Waltzing Along posted:SMW2: Yoshi's Island > Dino Crisis > Turok I never got into yoshis island, I know people lose their poo poo over it. Escort missions are always the worst, and that's the whole game? gently caress that.
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:it's not even comparable except for dinosaurs. and Turok really doesn't even have a lot of dinosaurs in it. Dino Crisis is like Resident Evil but with dinos. Thanks for auditing the unpopular vidyagames opinions thread, dweeb.
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