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all movies are now made by cops only. cops as actors. cops man the camera. thanks, obama
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Nov 9, 2021 17:11
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yes. Yes!
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Nov 9, 2021 17:12
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Alright, ready, 3..2..1.. shoot. *dozens of cops around set pull out guns and start blasting*
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Nov 9, 2021 17:13
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StrangersInTheNight posted:this is such a dumb take considering that accident also came with a wave of crew members calling for more safety on sets and this accident was a prime example of how movie sets constantly break the rules just to get the shot Yes, and that's good -- more safety regulations (and more enforcement, following of, etc) is good -- but no one called for the ending of using helicopters in movies. That's the very obvious point I was making.
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Nov 9, 2021 17:21
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StrangersInTheNight posted:'look, helicopters don't kill people, people kill people. seems like only 2 people I know of have died, so who cares? You pussies wanna use NERF guns!' And yes, literally only 2 people have died from gun-related accidents on movie sets in 30 years. The second of those two died last month. That's an amazing safety record, safer than fuckin airplanes, and means that when you follow the rules, things are fine.
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Nov 9, 2021 17:23
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im calling for an end to using helicopters to convey retired nba all stars
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Nov 9, 2021 17:24
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Dynastocles posted:Yes, and that's good -- more safety regulations (and more enforcement, following of, etc) is good -- but no one called for the ending of using helicopters in movies. That's the very obvious point I was making. Helicopters, like all heavier than air craft, are an affront to God and man and should be banned. There, now somebody called for it.
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Nov 9, 2021 17:24
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Aardvark! posted:im calling for an end to using helicopters to convey retired nba all stars We need to subpoena the armorer’s therapy records
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Nov 9, 2021 17:25
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Facebook Aunt posted:Helicopters, like all heavier than air craft, are an affront to God and man and should be banned. Now do motorcycles.
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Nov 9, 2021 17:26
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ChunTheUnavoidable posted:They should make the cops check for spiders as well Pretty sure sheriff's deputies should be coaching the grips on ways to lift and hold heavy items without injuring their backs.
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Nov 9, 2021 17:26
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Amarcarts posted:It's crazy because this is the first time this type of incident has happened in the digital mass media era. I don't think a lot of people realize how much this is going to be burned into collective memory even more so than previous film industry accidents. I wonder if it will even have a subtle effect on actors' performances. The phrase "cold gun!" still has to be used when filming scenes with guns so basically anytime from now on you see a scene with a gun in it you can safely assume that all the actors just got triggered into remembering "Red October". Except when a good armorer/AD calls cold gun they take 10 seconds to hold up the empty gun with a clearing rod through the barrel and chamber, then check and load each fake bullet with the actors watching them, so nobody is worried. Also lol that Alec’s response to someone getting killed because a live bullet made its way on set, was to say cops should bring guns and live bullets onto every set, presumably to make him look less bad by comparison
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Nov 9, 2021 17:27
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Dynastocles posted:And yes, literally only 2 people have died from gun-related accidents on movie sets in 30 years. The second of those two died last month. That's an amazing safety record, safer than fuckin airplanes, and means that when you follow the rules, things are fine. "I can't properly achieve climax when masturbating to a gunfight unless I know that I am seeing real muzzle flashes! Anything less than real guns is inferior and two deaths is a small price to pay to avoid loving CGI!!!"
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teardrop posted:Except when a good armorer/AD calls cold gun they take 10 seconds to hold up the empty gun with a clearing rod through the barrel and chamber, then check and load each fake bullet with the actors watching them, so nobody is worried. i think its very brave of alec baldwin to try and normalize people getting shot to death on set
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Nov 9, 2021 17:28
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Bags Fly at Noon posted:Alec Baldwin is actually a giant spider ChunTheUnavoidable posted:They should make the cops check for spiders as well Fuckin lmao https://people.com/movies/rust-crew-member-trying-save-arm-amputation-after-spider-bite-on-set/
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Nov 9, 2021 17:28
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oh my god this movie truly is cursed. maybe the set is on an ancient indian burial ground that the executive producers dug up and then reburied everyone upside down for the fema money
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Nov 9, 2021 17:49
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Production of Rust is currently doing everything in its power to deflect blame and somehow throw the camera department under the bus at the same time. Baldwin calling for cops to handle firearms is the worst possible idea, and he absolutely knows this, but it implies the safety protocols we use on sets now aren't good enough so that's why it all went horribly wrong, not because production cheaped out on the armorer job. A good armorer knows a lot more about gun safety than cops, not to mention they handle tons of different weapons that no cop would have experience with. The safety protocols that we use right now are ridiculously strict and good, it only goes wrong when a production decides to skip them and go their own way which is partially why the camera department walked in the first place. A producer came out and said the camera crew were "not aware of the safety protocols the production was using", a total bullshit statement but again meant to imply that production was, in fact, being safe but those pesky camera people simply didn't "get" it. Of course ignoring the fact that by claiming this, the production person also admitted they didn't actually hold any safety briefings (which are explicitly to make everyone aware of the safety protocols being used), which was one of the major reasons the crew walked off in the first place. No idea why that producer thought that was a smart thing to admit. Also these safety protocols aren't exactly a closely guarded Hollywood secret, they're rammed into you on any production that uses firearms and there's even special union training days specifically to teach crews about how weapons should be handled on set so everyone knows what to look for and if something doesn't feel right. So it's very likely the, quite experienced, camera crew probably knew more about correct safety procedures than the armorer, the AD, and production. Which, again, is why they sounded the alarm in the first place. I tried to defend Alec for the longest time, cause he always seemed to be on the crew's side, but the statements he's been putting out have made it very clear he was absolutely a very involved producer and is now trying to sway public opinion to make production seem like victims in this while throwing the camera department, and actual experienced armorers, under the bus. It's easy to be on the crew's side when you have no stake in how it turns out.
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Nov 9, 2021 17:50
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Alec is rich and therefore lovely and evil just like the rest of them. Surprised people are still confused by this.
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Nov 9, 2021 17:54
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There was a brown recluse in the chamber
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Nov 9, 2021 18:10
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alec isn't really rich by real rich person standards. only 60 million dollar net worth. he's still too poor to be inducted into the shadow council.
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Nov 9, 2021 18:14
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Don't ever let Alec on a helicopter, he will become unstoppable
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Nov 9, 2021 18:33
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Mulaney Power Move posted:alec isn't really rich by real rich person standards. only 60 million dollar net worth. he's still too poor to be inducted into the shadow council. He’s building his application, though — recently earned his Murder a Working Class badge, now he’s singing the virtues of cops.
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Nov 9, 2021 18:37
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Mulaney Power Move posted:alec isn't really rich by real rich person standards. only 60 million dollar net worth. he's still too poor to be inducted into the shadow council. Is 60 mil enough to turn yourself into a human-spider hybrid? Maybe
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Nov 9, 2021 18:49
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someone post whatever his dumbass daughter Ireland wrote about travis Scott and her cool dad
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Nov 9, 2021 18:51
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LanceHunter posted:"I can't properly achieve climax when masturbating to a gunfight unless I know that I am seeing real muzzle flashes! Anything less than real guns is inferior and two deaths is a small price to pay to avoid loving CGI!!!" Lol, 96% of film set deaths are caused by something other than guns. Better ban all cars, boats, pulley systems, heavy cameras, filming in cold weather, filming on mountains, and stunts too!
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Nov 9, 2021 19:38
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helicopters killed Colin McRae as well so gently caress helicopters
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Nov 9, 2021 19:39
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:helicopters killed Colin McRae as well so gently caress helicopters Kobe too.
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Nov 9, 2021 19:40
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Dynastocles posted:Kobe too. they really are dicks also spiders are dicks, and they kind of look like helicopter blades with all their legs and whatnot its all coming together
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Nov 9, 2021 19:43
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ChunTheUnavoidable posted:There was a brown recluse in the chamber A dropped a brown recluse in the chamber not 20 minutes ago.
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Nov 9, 2021 20:29
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Dynastocles posted:And yes, literally only 2 people have died from gun-related accidents on movie sets in 30 years. The second of those two died last month. That's an amazing safety record, safer than fuckin airplanes, and means that when you follow the rules, things are fine. this doesn't work in your favor when the number should be zero. there's no amount of acceptable losses on movie sets from guns. this is essentially what you're arguing - the risk is so low, it's acceptable losses. gently caress no. welcome to the thread, where people have been long pointing out that it's not just about the tool being used, but a culture of risk-taking that exists on movie sets that won't ever fully disappear. sometimes it's a gun, sometimes it's a helicopter, the reasons why are pretty much the same, management taking risks to save money. for guns, the easiest and clearest way to fully eliminate this particular risk is just to have no real guns. a question that still has yet to be answered by the crowd so insistent in real guns on sets: why does it matter to you so much to have real guns on set? or do you just want to insist that people are over-reacting to your perceived risk assessment? in which case here's some confetti, maybe we are over-reacting, but I'd rather keep people safe than dead. In the guns on sets debate, I'll take the 'over-reacting to save lives' side over the 'eh it's only a handful of deaths!' side, thanks. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Nov 9, 2021 |
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Nov 9, 2021 21:02
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Just stop making movies imo, who needs em?
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Nov 9, 2021 21:03
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Bags Fly at Noon posted:Fuckin lmao If that guy had a gun, that spider would have hosed right off instead of biting him
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Nov 9, 2021 21:06
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LuckyCat posted:A dropped a brown recluse in the chamber not 20 minutes ago. Lol
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Nov 9, 2021 21:07
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Alec Baldwin and Jim Acosta are gonna team up for the buddy picture of a lifetime (because they’re going to kill you)
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Nov 9, 2021 21:07
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Keep guns on sets, ban bullets. Issue resolved. Next.
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Nov 9, 2021 22:33
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stunt arses should be banned
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Nov 9, 2021 22:41
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Actors should be banned. We can cgi those too
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Nov 9, 2021 22:44
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imo we can point cameras at people and have them do things to entertain us while killing zero of the people around the camera that's my hot take like sometimes people will die for unrelated reasons like illness or whatever, but i'm pretty sure it's possible to not do things that kill people like point guns at them or have them jump off spiders motorcycles or whatever for the sole purpose of having it happen in front of a camera
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Nov 9, 2021 22:56
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Dynastocles posted:Yes, and that's good -- more safety regulations (and more enforcement, following of, etc) is good -- but no one called for the ending of using helicopters in movies. That's the very obvious point I was making. it's probably a hell of a lot easier to edit muzzle flashes in than it is to CGI a helicopter for that matter, they already can and do make prop guns that kick and make light and noise but aren't capable of discharging projectiles,
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ChubbyChecker posted:stunt arses should be banned misread this as sex arses and almost had a meltdown 
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