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Pachylad posted:My own half-baked takes at the moment: it gave us a great term/concept but the comic is incredibly flawed, and only grows moreso the more we are removed from its initial Gamergate context. It's "useful" in the sense that it's meant to give a simple descriptor to the kind of weaponized gish gallop tactic early GG engaged in, or the threat of that by dozens of accounts messaging you at once, but like seemingly every other social justice-rooted slang term it quickly gets re-appropriated and misused. Conflating GGers with the immutable nature of being a sea lion doesn't work and they could've done something like "clowns" or "people with silly hats" or something else wacky and it would've worked better.
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Nov 9, 2021 20:45
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its men!! its about men!! men react like that when you say "i hate men" to express general annoyance at the systems they uphold and they incessant way they needle you about it!!! aaaugh!!
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Nov 9, 2021 20:49
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sealion comic is loving stupid
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Nov 9, 2021 20:51
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author's defense of the sealion comic is loving lame
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Nov 9, 2021 20:51
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Nothing will ever get better by debating the meaning of a word. Never forget that language is a demon in your head. You made a deal with it. It lets you trick others in exchange for letting others trick you.
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Nov 9, 2021 20:54
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fun hater posted:its men!! its about men!! men react like that when you say "i hate men" to express general annoyance at the systems they uphold and they incessant way they needle you about it!!! aaaugh!! This is not the airtight defense you seem to think it is.
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Nov 9, 2021 20:56
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ahem, excuse me, you forgot to include and consider every single possible life situation that could make this specific broad and easily understood metaphor offensive.
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Nov 9, 2021 20:58
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i've literally never encountered someone misinterpreting this comic before today, wow
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Nov 9, 2021 21:03
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I have. They're rarely the kind of people I enjoy talking to.
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Nov 9, 2021 21:15
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I am a sealion
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Nov 9, 2021 21:24
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Nuns with Guns posted:It's "useful" in the sense that it's meant to give a simple descriptor to the kind of weaponized gish gallop tactic early GG engaged in, or the threat of that by dozens of accounts messaging you at once, but like seemingly every other social justice-rooted slang term it quickly gets re-appropriated and misused. Conflating GGers with the immutable nature of being a sea lion doesn't work and they could've done something like "clowns" or "people with silly hats" or something else wacky and it would've worked better. People should just stop talking in meme-speak altogether.
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Nov 9, 2021 21:24
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let me kramer in for a sec here,
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Nov 9, 2021 21:39
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the sealion comic is very funny in that during the context of when it was published it was obviously and completely about what it intended to be about but its very easy to imagine a younger zoomer seeing it and going "wow this is hosed up" without any of the outside context
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Nov 9, 2021 21:43
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i'm old as hell and this thread, today, is the first time i've heard it's supposed to be about gamergate; so it's not just zoomers, but even geriatric millenials
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Nov 9, 2021 21:50
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you know who drewtoothpaste thinks is a real sea lion, his freakin ex-wife!
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Nov 9, 2021 22:01
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Youtube has decided to serve me a platter of lots of UK political commentary. It's all very milquetoast, apparently my gammon meter isn't high enough. However… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh9raBib6YU That's one way to have a short intro sequence I guess  A bit too edgy (  ) for me, but the audacity…
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Nov 9, 2021 22:03
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Pachylad posted:Big Joel is dishing out Sea Lion discourse (and may or may not be sea lioning himself?)
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Nov 9, 2021 22:15
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Impermanent posted:the sealion comic is very funny in that during the context of when it was published it was obviously and completely about what it intended to be about but its very easy to imagine a younger zoomer seeing it and going "wow this is hosed up" without any of the outside context it just makes me think the lady is being a bigot about sealions and I am gonna cancel the hell out of her
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Nov 9, 2021 22:43
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i think the comic would be funnier if the lady were talking about gamers and that was what the sea lion took offense at but everything else was the same
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Nov 9, 2021 22:47
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I prefer to see it as being literally about sealions and nobody can take that away from me. (Seals are better in every way)
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Nov 9, 2021 23:43
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The sealion reads too much like the average dudebater for people to not get it, really. Big Joel is just unfortunately Twitter poisoned. If you wanted to read it as a criticism of wokescolds the sealion would never engage the people directly, instead they'd post a stream of quote RTs and call their friends on Discord to agree with them about what a serious microaggression towards sealions that was.
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Nov 10, 2021 00:08
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Nov 10, 2021 00:30
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Joel is such a doofus on twitter. The other day he tweeted about how people don't talk enough about the Jazz design (he didn't know the name but the famous disposable cup art) and was surprised when he found out it's popular.
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Nov 10, 2021 01:23
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I like Joel’s videos. They’re extreme-a-ly good
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Nov 10, 2021 01:40
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emgeejay posted:I like Joel’s videos. They’re extreme-a-ly good
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Nov 10, 2021 02:20
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i for one, will not stand for sealion racism  but yea the context is about annoying people going "debate me" but the comics a bit muddled on that end due to what causes the sealion to start up imo
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Nov 10, 2021 02:35
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JazzFlight posted:Yeah, I’m a big fan as well. I’m not going to read any of his recent Twitter poetry though, lol. His videos are good stuff he's just a goober and a half on Twitter.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:50
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my roommates have been watching the victorious video and not me, but i walked in on the mid-point intermission and he said one of his upcoming videos will be about bootleg garfield merchandise so that might be something i'd actually be into but he also implied early on in the video, as i predicted, that he is doing a Sam & Cat retrospective next, and there's a pretty good chance that he will in fact do a video on every Schneider show, including Henry Danger and Game Shakers, and then the iCarly revival. so IDK. this is so much time of someone's life to dedicate to mediocre kids sitcoms, but with iCarly I got it because he watched it as a kid. if he does videos about Henry Danger or Game Shakers, there's no nostalgia attached to it, it'd just be like. I dunno. doing a 5 hour video where you read IGN reviews of Playstation 1 games.
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Nov 10, 2021 02:52
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it's also a bad comic because it's a one panel joke stretched out for an entire comic length. Also like near everything online regardless of if you think it was a valid premise it's been overused and watered down to just mean 'when someone disagrees with me' 90% of the time.
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Nov 10, 2021 03:16
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how do you make that joke work in one panel
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Nov 10, 2021 03:27
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sexpig by night posted:it's also a bad comic because it's a one panel joke stretched out for an entire comic length.
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Nov 10, 2021 03:29
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Groovelord Neato posted:His videos are good stuff he's just a goober and a half on Twitter. I put Folding Ideas in this category as well Dias posted:The sealion reads too much like the average dudebater for people to not get it, really. Big Joel is just unfortunately Twitter poisoned. If you wanted to read it as a criticism of wokescolds the sealion would never engage the people directly, instead they'd post a stream of quote RTs and call their friends on Discord to agree with them about what a serious microaggression towards sealions that was. The sealion would also subtweet on priv
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Nov 10, 2021 04:32
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incredible page about the sealion meme from seven years ago guys
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Nov 10, 2021 04:34
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BrianWilly posted:Welp. For anyone who's interested, the first episode of my Wonder Woman deep dive video is up! Late but I appreciate that you went ahead with the clickbait thumbnail
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Nov 10, 2021 04:39
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It mostly ends up as a rumination on William Marston and the strengths and drawbacks of his...ideas. Includes two sidebars into mythology!
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Alaois posted:you know who drewtoothpaste thinks is a real sea lion, his freakin ex-wife! drewtoothpaste did Married to the Sea, the other comic that uses 19th century novel insert art to make twee jokes. The Wondermark guy is a different twee doofus.
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Nov 10, 2021 05:11
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mycot posted:I put Folding Ideas in this category as well Is this about his recent NFT tweets?
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Nov 10, 2021 05:21
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The 7th Guest posted:my roommates have been watching the victorious video and not me, but i walked in on the mid-point intermission and he said one of his upcoming videos will be about bootleg garfield merchandise so that might be something i'd actually be into whenever I see the name of that show I think people are talking about henry darger and get exited for a bit
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Nov 10, 2021 05:21
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Pachylad posted:Is this about his recent NFT tweets? I don't know what you're referring to and am afraid
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Nov 10, 2021 05:26
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Nuns with Guns posted:drewtoothpaste did Married to the Sea, the other comic that uses 19th century novel insert art to make twee jokes. The Wondermark guy is a different twee doofus. im so mad at myself for making this mistake. i feel like someone emailed my wife
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Nov 10, 2021 05:34
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mycot posted:I don't know what you're referring to and am afraid
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Nov 10, 2021 05:38
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